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[200mW LASER]

DaJe wrote...

GME_ThorianCreeper wrote...

No offence, but all I am seeing is this...

"Mommy, the big bad corporation lied to us!"

You guys are acting like this is the first time corporations have lied to people. I mean come on, if every corporation was sued for falsely advertising and not keeping promises would there even be any corporations?

Welcome to the world.

You and your attitude are exactly what's wrong with this world.

Have fun bending over all day while others make this world a more honest place.

When you grow up,you will learn that you are wrong.Till you grow up,listen and shutup.

[Dandynermite]

GrimIntent89 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Let's tone down the rage a few steps , and eliminate the name-calling and insults. Thank you.

It's kind of difficult to NOT be angry about being lied to about the vast majority of these things that were said, and I for one feel insulted that I might have to actually pay for DLC to get the things promised to me. If this situation isn't resolved soon, Bioware will have at least two less fans. That much I can promise.

Fixed that for you :happy:

[DangerousPuddy]

200mW LASER wrote...

We should sue humanity at being genetically stupid. The amount of idiotic
feedback is only a sign that people at certain ages are incapable of receiving
different input from that what they have been fed by cliché movies and games

One might argue that even the "Ending" was not dumbed down enough to suit the masses.
My personal advice is to the general public is that they should go watch ponies.At keast you will always have a happy ending there.

You are seeing this from a completely different and incorrect frame of mind from what most people against Bioware are trying to say. There is nothing wrong with your or their argument. So don't act like it.

You also are human.

[Dandynermite]

DangerousPuddy wrote...

200mW LASER wrote...

We should sue humanity at being genetically stupid. The amount of idiotic
feedback is only a sign that people at certain ages are incapable of receiving
different input from that what they have been fed by cliché movies and games

One might argue that even the "Ending" was not dumbed down enough to suit the masses.
My personal advice is to the general public is that they should go watch ponies.At keast you will always have a happy ending there.

You are seeing this from a completely different and incorrect frame of mind from what most people against Bioware are trying to say. There is nothing wrong with your or their argument. So don't act like it.

You also are human.

He's not seeing anything, he's trolling. What part of that is written to do anything other than wind people up? 

[sabasebatyne]

Dandynermite wrote...

DangerousPuddy wrote...

200mW LASER wrote...

We should sue humanity at being genetically stupid. The amount of idiotic
feedback is only a sign that people at certain ages are incapable of receiving
different input from that what they have been fed by cliché movies and games

One might argue that even the "Ending" was not dumbed down enough to suit the masses.
My personal advice is to the general public is that they should go watch ponies.At keast you will always have a happy ending there.

You are seeing this from a completely different and incorrect frame of mind from what most people against Bioware are trying to say. There is nothing wrong with your or their argument. So don't act like it.

You also are human.

He's not seeing anything, he's trolling. What part of that is written to do anything other than wind people up? 

Exactly. Don't dignify remarks like his with a response. The careful, respectful, and reasoned presentation of different ideas are what will ultimately provoke a better discussion.

[titoarc]

200mW LASER wrote...

DaJe wrote...

GME_ThorianCreeper wrote...

No offence, but all I am seeing is this...

"Mommy, the big bad corporation lied to us!"

You guys are acting like this is the first time corporations have lied to people. I mean come on, if every corporation was sued for falsely advertising and not keeping promises would there even be any corporations?

Welcome to the world.

You and your attitude are exactly what's wrong with this world.

Have fun bending over all day while others make this world a more honest place.

When you grow up,you will learn that you are wrong.Till you grow up,listen and shutup.

I think that you are the one who needs to grow up. And in a lot of countries false advertising is illegal , so no , the big companies can not lie when they want

[Lycius]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Let's tone down the rage a few steps , and eliminate the name-calling and insults. Thank you.

Tone down the rage? Not likely.
Get rid of the insults, totally agree.

[DanTheMilkman]

We need to get more FTC complaints going about this.

[sabasebatyne]

DanTheMilkman wrote...

We need to get more FTC complaints going about this.

See, this is exactly why so many people view the fans who are displeased with the ending as entitled whiners: "If we don't get an immediate response, then we'll take it to the FTC," or take other legal action. I believe this is precisely the wrong approach to the problem at the moment. Civil and reasonable debate has yet to fully run its course.

Edit: Unless you were being sarcastic, in which case, never mind.

Modifié par sabasebatyne, 20 mars 2012 - 09:44 .

[Tazzmission]

DanTheMilkman wrote...

We need to get more FTC complaints going about this.

um no we dont


if you think taking this federal is good than im sorry but you are wrong on so many levels


where will it stop?


should some anti same sex protesters file a complaint now since same sex choices are in games?

or how would you feel if someone filed a complaint to the ftc about game violence?


your opening a can of worms that you dont understand at all because this can be used for more than just a ending of a videogame

Modifié par Tazzmission, 20 mars 2012 - 09:44 .

[Dandynermite]

Tazzmission wrote...

DanTheMilkman wrote...

We need to get more FTC complaints going about this.

um no we dont


if you think taking this federal is good than im sorry but you are wrong on so many levels


where will it stop?


should some anti same sex protesters file a complaint now since same sex choices are in games?

or how would you feel if someone filed a complaint to the ftc about game violence?


your opening a can of worms that you dont understand at all because this can be used for more than just a ending of a videogame

Lets say the movement all bought normal edition. That's £35 each. That means £2,100,000 has been paid into a company, one of whose promises was that the ending would be affected by choices. Thats £2,100,000 (I'm not including the thousands more that are upset by aren't on BSN, or the thousands more than are going to be upset, or the thousands more that cba to join the movement, nor the many of us who paid £54 for N7) gained by false advertising. If Bioware ignores those fans, then that is £2,100,000 (which is paid in, I know that is not all profit) that has been taking by decieving customers. That is worthy of a complaint to the FTC. 

Myself I won't complain yet, because I still have hope they could fix it. 

[TarielMaeda]

Maybe it's not false advertising. Maybe it's just a whole lot of things that they couldn't live up to. Like the Fable series. Molyneux promised a LOT of things with that but how much of it did we get?

[Travie]

Thanks for posting this OP. Now its clear for the whole community to see.

[Overule]

We don't need more formal complaints to the FTC. We need constant and clear complaints made to Bioware in any outlet you can think of. Right up until they give us some clear answers. Then if we don't like them we pack up and move on.

Really hope they're at least willing to admit fault on the day 1 DLC thing, if only as a demonstration of contrition.

[Udindoctrinated]

They lied, yes. But seriously, did you really believe everything? It was just marketing...

[Overule]

I don't accept that. If we've come to expect deception from game devs than there's something seriously wrong with the industry's business practices and I have every right to cry foul.

Modifié par Overule, 20 mars 2012 - 09:59 .

[ninemarrow]

Dont mess with Bioware bro, there capable of things, you can only imagine.

[Tazzmission]

Dandynermite wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

DanTheMilkman wrote...

We need to get more FTC complaints going about this.

um no we dont


if you think taking this federal is good than im sorry but you are wrong on so many levels


where will it stop?


should some anti same sex protesters file a complaint now since same sex choices are in games?

or how would you feel if someone filed a complaint to the ftc about game violence?


your opening a can of worms that you dont understand at all because this can be used for more than just a ending of a videogame

Lets say the movement all bought normal edition. That's £35 each. That means £2,100,000 has been paid into a company, one of whose promises was that the ending would be affected by choices. Thats £2,100,000 (I'm not including the thousands more that are upset by aren't on BSN, or the thousands more than are going to be upset, or the thousands more that cba to join the movement, nor the many of us who paid £54 for N7) gained by false advertising. If Bioware ignores those fans, then that is £2,100,000 (which is paid in, I know that is not all profit) that has been taking by decieving customers. That is worthy of a complaint to the FTC. 

Myself I won't complain yet, because I still have hope they could fix it. 

again you missed the point in generall. im saying just by this one guy he has opened up doors for other excuces to be filed

can you promise that some religious nut wont file a complaint do to partial nudity or swearing or same sex options?


just because that person has a right to do so dosent mean its ok because that would be like saying well i know what should or shouldnt be in a game despite the ratings board rating on the cover


this opens up a huge opertunity to people who are against video game violence so how can you say those people are wrong and yet also agree they have a right to file that complaint?

so just because someone wants a game like gta to be banned would you say thats ok because its his or her right to file that motion with the ftc?

Modifié par Tazzmission, 20 mars 2012 - 10:06 .

[cuzsal]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Let's tone down the rage a few steps , and eliminate the name-calling and insults. Thank you.

uh oh soon there will be the famous "end of line" post soon lol

Modifié par cuzsal, 20 mars 2012 - 10:06 .

[Favourite store on the CitadeI]

"THERE WILL BE NO A,B OR C ENDING" - Casey Hudson, 2011

[Dandynermite]

Tazzmission wrote...

Dandynermite wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

DanTheMilkman wrote...

We need to get more FTC complaints going about this.

um no we dont


if you think taking this federal is good than im sorry but you are wrong on so many levels


where will it stop?


should some anti same sex protesters file a complaint now since same sex choices are in games?

or how would you feel if someone filed a complaint to the ftc about game violence?


your opening a can of worms that you dont understand at all because this can be used for more than just a ending of a videogame

Lets say the movement all bought normal edition. That's £35 each. That means £2,100,000 has been paid into a company, one of whose promises was that the ending would be affected by choices. Thats £2,100,000 (I'm not including the thousands more that are upset by aren't on BSN, or the thousands more than are going to be upset, or the thousands more that cba to join the movement, nor the many of us who paid £54 for N7) gained by false advertising. If Bioware ignores those fans, then that is £2,100,000 (which is paid in, I know that is not all profit) that has been taking by decieving customers. That is worthy of a complaint to the FTC. 

Myself I won't complain yet, because I still have hope they could fix it. 

again you missed the point in generall. im saying just by this one guy he has opened up doors for other excuces to be filed

can you promise that some religious nut wont file a complaint do to partial nudity or swearing or same sex options?


just because that person has a right to do so dosent mean its ok because that would be like saying well i know what should or shouldnt be in a game despite the ratings board rating on the cover


this opens up a huge opertunity to people who are against video game violence so how can you say those people are wrong and yet also agree they have a right to file that complaint?

so just because someone wants a game like gta to be banned would you say thats ok because its his or her right to file that motion with the ftc?

Except they didn't say "there won't be partial nudity, homosexuality or swearing" before, so its not false advertising, so FTC would ignore it...

[SCK barman]

Why am i wadeing in? (sigh) All i know is that i spent a total of £70 and had to rush around on the net with the whole Game thing to get a game (CE Edition) with the above (Page 1, obviousley). That is not what i recived. Dont get me wrong i actually kinda liked the ending i got (synthasis) but it wasn't the ending advertised.

[Headrusher]

VolusvsReaper wrote...

Headrusher wrote...

Yeah, so basically the "anti change the ending" camp is willing to bend over and accept whatever the "big bad corporations" are doing, namely, lying to their customers.

Got it. Keep on trucking ****s. You guys don't look retarded at all...

So because people don't agree with you they look retarded? Is this the face of the supposed "Movement"? What a spokesman.

Yes, people who think that Bioware/EA /Corporations can do whatever they want to consumers are retarded.

Also when the hell did I become the "face of the supposed 'movement'"? Quit with the projecting.

[Zanath]

Udindoctrinated wrote...

They lied, yes. But seriously, did you really believe everything? It was just marketing...

The fact that we consider it "normal" for marketing to lie and deceive is something I've never liked.

Especially when the hypocrisy solidify in cries about piracy - from people who used Internet pictures in their SOLD game.

[Dandynermite]

Zanath wrote...

Udindoctrinated wrote...

They lied, yes. But seriously, did you really believe everything? It was just marketing...

The fact that we consider it "normal" for marketing to lie and deceive is something I've never liked.

Especially when the hypocrisy solidify in cries about piracy - from people who used Internet pictures in their SOLD game.

You can't lie to get sales, even if it is "just marketing" incorrect point of sales is illegal.