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I'm coming very very close to dropping this brand altogether, and I wish that wasn't the case.

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Oldbones2 wrote...

Did someone from the forum kill your dog or something?

Not sure what anyone has to admit....


Tanking reviews on sites for the final scene in order to hurt Bioware, for one. Plus the whole badgering and coersive manner in which many choose to insure that there opinion is more valid then others (ie; Bioware).

No dog though; around these forums it could get exposed to rabies....

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I think these all fit well.

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Stanley Woo wrote...

NovinhaShepard wrote...

I really don't think they should be sued. So ridiculous.

Remember the time a woman sued McDonalds, because she was clumsy enough to spill HOT coffee down her front at the drive thru?

This is an oft-reported misunderstanding of the case in question. According to Wikipedia's article on the case, the coffee was unreasonably hot, hot enough to cause third-degree burns, requiring hospitalization, skin grafts and 2 years of medical treatment. Read the article. Not frivolous.

But if you repeat something loudly enough and often enough...


So you are saying we do have a point ?? wait a minute don`t you work for Bioware or am I missing something ?

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Stanley Woo wrote...

Let's tone down the rage a few steps , and eliminate the name-calling and insults. Thank you.


Ok Stan how you expect us to tone down rage, we paid something thinking that we would receive all those promises.
We were cheated, I can't think any lighter word for what happened.:?

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I think the main problem with all those lies is that BioWare would have actually had the ability to deliver what was promised and people trusted them to do so.

All the worse that the ending and the way they handled some of the desicions of ME1/ME2 is ****** poor by any standard. Compared to how high BioWare has set the bar in former games I consider it to be a complete and utter disgrace. How they could fail so epic is completely beyond my comprehension...

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This topic is far more worthy of being stickied than those "response" topics from Hudson and Muzyka.

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Indeed. I dunno how can they read the statements they issued and not feel embarrassed by those.

In many cases they look outright lies. False advertising may not be a crime. It may even be a marketing strategy. Of course no one would ever sue them for those, but... speaks really loud about the morality of the company.

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There was no lie; well, except for the belief that some feel entitled to their own conclusions, belief they have a working knowledge of either the legal or business system, and / or they have a grasp on morality, ethics, or decency.

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Elhanan wrote...

There was no lie; well, except for the belief that some feel entitled to their own conclusions, belief they have a working knowledge of either the legal or business system, and / or they have a grasp on morality, ethics, or decency.


You might want to look up "lie" in a dictionary mate.

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onelifecrisis wrote...

You might want to look up "lie" in a dictionary mate.


And you may wish to try a search for 'World's Greatest Hamburger', and see all the various listings for the various claims.

There may not be the cake some expected, but it is not a lie.

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@onelifecrisis- Elhanan does seem to miss the point of this thread at times. When we're told we *won't* get an ABC ending & that we *won't* get a 'bespoke' ending that everyone is funneled down to, and then we do, it's hard to call that anything but a lie.

UNLESS a proper, open & forthright statement is issued that tells us exactly why they had to go against those claims & gives a resonable justification for the decision.

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I agree ! thanks for the list.

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batlin wrote...

This topic is far more worthy of being stickied than those "response" topics from Hudson and Muzyka.


Yup.

Fans: This is ****!
BW: ...
Fans: This is ****!
BW: ...
Fans: This is ****!
BW: Yeah, ok, we heard you.
Fans: And?
BW: ...

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Elhanan wrote...

And you may wish to try a search for 'World's Greatest Hamburger', and see all the various listings for the various claims.

There may not be the cake some expected, but it is not a lie.


There's a fine line between an subjective opinion and an objective falsehood.

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Ronin1325 wrote...

@onelifecrisis- Elhanan does seem to miss the point of this thread at times. When we're told we *won't* get an ABC ending & that we *won't* get a 'bespoke' ending that everyone is funneled down to, and then we do, it's hard to call that anything but a lie.

UNLESS a proper, open & forthright statement is issued that tells us exactly why they had to go against those claims & gives a resonable justification for the decision.


Unless one has varied every decision, and still has conslusions with the exact same squad members, romantic interests, etc, then there is no basis in the accusation; simply another indicator of emotion over reason.

Modifié par Elhanan, 23 mars 2012 - 10:25 .


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Elhanan wrote...

There was no lie; well, except for the belief that some feel entitled to their own conclusions, belief they have a working knowledge of either the legal or business system, and / or they have a grasp on morality, ethics, or decency.


That's just that kind of attitude that allows the companies to get away with such crap. Thanks a lot! :unsure:

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Elhanan wrote...

There was no lie; well, except for the belief that some feel entitled to
their own conclusions, belief they have a working knowledge of either
the legal or business system, and / or they have a grasp on morality,
ethics, or decency.


Good attitude mate, you have the capacity to understand all the other people that don't agree are simply not enough intelligence to understand, yeah ofc LOL.

Modifié par Yusta1, 23 mars 2012 - 11:10 .


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Elhanan wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

@onelifecrisis- Elhanan does seem to miss the point of this thread at times. When we're told we *won't* get an ABC ending & that we *won't* get a 'bespoke' ending that everyone is funneled down to, and then we do, it's hard to call that anything but a lie.

UNLESS a proper, open & forthright statement is issued that tells us exactly why they had to go against those claims & gives a resonable justification for the decision.


Unless one has varied every decision, and still has conslusions with the exact same squad members, romantic interests, etc, then there is no basis in the accusation; simply another indicator of emotion over reason.


You... are talking about the ending of the game, yes? :huh:

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I'm just going to bump this because
Oblivion will not overcome Justice here!

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Mokthar wrote...

I'm just going to bump this because
Oblivion will not overcome Justice here!


It took me a bit to realize what you were actually saying. :D  Guh. Too much forum reading melts one's mind. But I agree with your post. Bump! 

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got to bump this up. Need to remind people that we're really upset and angry because of all the promises they gave consumers and the promises they broke with this "art"

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Hold The Line!

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Stanley Woo wrote...

NovinhaShepard wrote...

I really don't think they should be sued. So ridiculous.

Remember the time a woman sued McDonalds, because she was clumsy enough to spill HOT coffee down her front at the drive thru?

This is an oft-reported misunderstanding of the case in question. According to Wikipedia's article on the case, the coffee was unreasonably hot, hot enough to cause third-degree burns, requiring hospitalization, skin grafts and 2 years of medical treatment. Read the article. Not frivolous.

But if you repeat something loudly enough and often enough...


Like the fact there is enough EMS in SP to get the best ending...

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bluewolv1970 wrote...

Like the fact there is enough EMS in SP to get the best ending...


More like closing one's eyes to the number of posts stating that achievment from other Players. But self-deception works like that....