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Arcian wrote...

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i should file a sute against the fans because you all give me a headache and making me suffer from stress

seriously just stop

Bioslave in denial?

Bioslave in denial.


oh look another cult member sipping the hold the line kool aid make sure you check it before you drink it dude:whistle:

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Holy crap. I've been off for a while, and look at what the forums have become.

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Tazzmission wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i should file a sute against the fans because you all give me a headache and making me suffer from stress

seriously just stop

Bioslave in denial?

Bioslave in denial.


oh look another cult member sipping the hold the line kool aid make sure you check it before you drink it dude:whistle:




Hey hypocrit, you said the following on page 2, I think you need a break from these forums!...

no more spamming boards with the same topics

no more hijacking threads

no more bashing on the devs or posters

no more conspiracy theory bs regarding a statement without any actual evidence

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The scale of the game is everything Bioware said it would be. Truly a very great gameplay/story experience in my own opinion. I have to admit that I enjoyed playing the game, but like so many others, I am not a fan of it's conclusion. Using my own preferred Shepard morality, in the first game, I saved the Council. The ending was good, but it left me wanting more. In Mass Effect 2, I saved my entire squad and destroyed the Collector Base. Similar scenario, though I wasn't as much a fan of that ending as I was the first. However, again, it left me grasping for more. Those two endings left me hanging on in eager anticipation of the epic finale. I expected closure. Admittedly, Mass Effect 3 delivered the closure on several fronts: The Quarians and the Geth...Krogan and the Genophage.

But the closure for Shepard and his immediate Normandy allies was the worst ever. I spent all that time in all three games making friends and building romances. To me, that was the most dissatisfying end to the series. All of the romance options I had my Shepard pursue were basically meaningless. They were forged in the fires of battle as he/she tried to protect humanity and the rest of the galaxy from the Reaper threat. After all that effort between the players like me who really cared about their crew and characters...(To me, my squadmates from all three games were more like a family out here in the real world). I played my Shepard as the ultimate hero and saved the Galaxy.

In short, I feel as though all of the choices I made were completely meaningless. For a game series that's based on choice through morality and actions, I hoped for something a little better in which to end such an incredible series. Agree with me or disagree, that's purely my own perspective view points.

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Dont get me wrong, I am holding the line!
But this really should not be in the non-spoiler forum, on the front-page someone already stated that the ending is only a color swap of explosions,

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Tazzmission wrote...

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i should file a sute against the fans because you all give me a headache and making me suffer from stress

seriously just stop


I am seriously interested in your thoughts on the topic.  I will give them great thought.  Can you tell me what you did like about the fans who are giving you problems?


i think you mean didnt

i hate how the mornonic movement are ruining the game for new players

i persoanally am tired of being attacked for likeing something i payed for

im also tired of being accused of not playing the first two games and being called a bioware butt kisser


im also sick of hearing this movement speaks for every gamer when in fact they dont speak for me. i speak for me


who the hell are they to say they speak for every fan around the world?


this place use to be fun but now its like no life misery central occupied by people with no lives and get off to complaining and saying they know how a franchise they didnt even create should be


im mentally burnt out and honestly after the current display not just by fans but by gamers as a community it makes me ashamed to be a gamer because those idiots are gona have the whole gaming community targeted for critisizim


are you people actually happy to be laughed at by people?

this whole thing is so out of hand it makes you all look like gaming is the only world you live in

im not trying to bash, attack, flame or insult anyone and if anything im just venting my frustrations on the situation


Dude, if this was just one game and not a trilogy the ending would be fine... Imagine if star wars ended this way?
Imagine if John Mclane died at the end of Die Hard 4.0?! Bioware lied about the game in its campaign PERIOD. o_O

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Tazzmission wrote...




are you people actually happy to be laughed at by people?




Yes i'm, i fell a lot better when people around me are happy =]

hold the line!

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Arcian wrote...

Bioslave in denial?

Bioslave in denial.


So which part of the civil discussion is the name calling again?

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ERWERman wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i should file a sute against the fans because you all give me a headache and making me suffer from stress

seriously just stop


I am seriously interested in your thoughts on the topic.  I will give them great thought.  Can you tell me what you did like about the fans who are giving you problems?


i think you mean didnt

i hate how the mornonic movement are ruining the game for new players

i persoanally am tired of being attacked for likeing something i payed for

im also tired of being accused of not playing the first two games and being called a bioware butt kisser


im also sick of hearing this movement speaks for every gamer when in fact they dont speak for me. i speak for me


who the hell are they to say they speak for every fan around the world?


this place use to be fun but now its like no life misery central occupied by people with no lives and get off to complaining and saying they know how a franchise they didnt even create should be


im mentally burnt out and honestly after the current display not just by fans but by gamers as a community it makes me ashamed to be a gamer because those idiots are gona have the whole gaming community targeted for critisizim


are you people actually happy to be laughed at by people?

this whole thing is so out of hand it makes you all look like gaming is the only world you live in

im not trying to bash, attack, flame or insult anyone and if anything im just venting my frustrations on the situation


Dude, if this was just one game and not a trilogy the ending would be fine... Imagine if star wars ended this way?
Imagine if John Mclane died at the end of Die Hard 4.0?! Bioware lied about the game in its campaign PERIOD. o_O


everyone should know trilogys are hard to do


just because the orignal star wars did amazing didnt help the new trilogy


hey imo me2 felt filler to me because it didnt have that sense of a true threat so should i go to the ftc and say well i was promised a epic story from 2 years ago so do i have a legit complaint?

bioware didnt lie i believe they made promises that they couldnt meet wich happens all the time and not just in gaming

i would really love to see you try and do a trilogy series that pleases all gamers and keep every promise

its not easy as it sounds to come up with news ways to improve everything

people need to quit hanging onto every word someone says because if you take everything seriously you might end up dissapointed with the final product

things do change in the development process

Modifié par Tazzmission, 19 mars 2012 - 09:00 .


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zsom wrote...


Interestingly enough yesterday in the "Hold the lines" thread I was assured that the FTC complaint was the work of an overzealous guy who does not speak for the community, and actually the majority of people who are fighting for a better ending are against it. How fast things are changing...


I honestly don't think that's changed.  The majority of the  people don't want to sue Bioware and don't agree with taking it to the FTC.  Unfortunately, not everyone that agrees with our complaints is willing to agree to our course of action.  Someone is bound to throw the word 'sue' around because.. well,  I don't actually know why.  Maybe it makes them feel cool?  It's too bad that it gets dropped on us because it's really not what we're after.

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Tazzmission wrote...

ERWERman wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i should file a sute against the fans because you all give me a headache and making me suffer from stress

seriously just stop


I am seriously interested in your thoughts on the topic.  I will give them great thought.  Can you tell me what you did like about the fans who are giving you problems?


i think you mean didnt

i hate how the mornonic movement are ruining the game for new players

i persoanally am tired of being attacked for likeing something i payed for

im also tired of being accused of not playing the first two games and being called a bioware butt kisser


im also sick of hearing this movement speaks for every gamer when in fact they dont speak for me. i speak for me


who the hell are they to say they speak for every fan around the world?


this place use to be fun but now its like no life misery central occupied by people with no lives and get off to complaining and saying they know how a franchise they didnt even create should be


im mentally burnt out and honestly after the current display not just by fans but by gamers as a community it makes me ashamed to be a gamer because those idiots are gona have the whole gaming community targeted for critisizim


are you people actually happy to be laughed at by people?

this whole thing is so out of hand it makes you all look like gaming is the only world you live in

im not trying to bash, attack, flame or insult anyone and if anything im just venting my frustrations on the situation


Dude, if this was just one game and not a trilogy the ending would be fine... Imagine if star wars ended this way?
Imagine if John Mclane died at the end of Die Hard 4.0?! Bioware lied about the game in its campaign PERIOD. o_O


everyone should know trilogys are hard to do


just because the orignal star wars did amazing didnt help the new trilogy


hey imo me2 felt filler to me because it didnt have that sense of a true threat so should i go to the ftc and say well i was promised a epic story from 2 years ago so do i have a legit complaint?

bioware didnt lie i believe they made promises that they couldnt meet wich happens all the time and not just in gaming

i would really love to see you try and do a trilogy series that pleases all gamers and keep every promise

its not easy as it sounds to come up with news ways to improve everything

people need to quit hanging onto every word someone says because if you take everything seriously you might end up dissapointed with the final product

things do change in the development process



No, companies need to stop advertising things they can't deliver. If they promise something, they should do anything to keep their promises, otherwise it is just fals advertising. People should stop being okay with being lied to. If i don't like a product it is not just my right, it is my duty to complain. Otherwise we will get the same **** with later games.

In politics we are used to getting lied to. And that is horrible. Heck, we don't even complain anymore if politicians brake their promises. Maybe we just should stop with being fed with lies!

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This suing crap is stupid and the supporters should be ashamed. There are always loopholes and clauses that can be exploited by EA to win the suit, like how the developers do not share the opinion of EA and the final content can change at any time. Protest peacefully and express yourself, but do not try to ruin Bioware or EA as a company.

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Tazzmission wrote...

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i should file a sute against the fans because you all give me a headache and making me suffer from stress

seriously just stop


I am seriously interested in your thoughts on the topic.  I will give them great thought.  Can you tell me what you did like about the fans who are giving you problems?


i think you mean didnt

i hate how the mornonic movement are ruining the game for new players

i persoanally am tired of being attacked for likeing something i payed for

im also tired of being accused of not playing the first two games and being called a bioware butt kisser


im also sick of hearing this movement speaks for every gamer when in fact they dont speak for me. i speak for me


who the hell are they to say they speak for every fan around the world?


this place use to be fun but now its like no life misery central occupied by people with no lives and get off to complaining and saying they know how a franchise they didnt even create should be


im mentally burnt out and honestly after the current display not just by fans but by gamers as a community it makes me ashamed to be a gamer because those idiots are gona have the whole gaming community targeted for critisizim


are you people actually happy to be laughed at by people?

this whole thing is so out of hand it makes you all look like gaming is the only world you live in

im not trying to bash, attack, flame or insult anyone and if anything im just venting my frustrations on the situation

Very good post. Quoted for emphasis.

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ncknck wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i should file a sute against the fans because you all give me a headache and making me suffer from stress

seriously just stop


I am seriously interested in your thoughts on the topic.  I will give them great thought.  Can you tell me what you did like about the fans who are giving you problems?


i think you mean didnt

i hate how the mornonic movement are ruining the game for new players

i persoanally am tired of being attacked for likeing something i payed for

im also tired of being accused of not playing the first two games and being called a bioware butt kisser


im also sick of hearing this movement speaks for every gamer when in fact they dont speak for me. i speak for me


who the hell are they to say they speak for every fan around the world?


this place use to be fun but now its like no life misery central occupied by people with no lives and get off to complaining and saying they know how a franchise they didnt even create should be


im mentally burnt out and honestly after the current display not just by fans but by gamers as a community it makes me ashamed to be a gamer because those idiots are gona have the whole gaming community targeted for critisizim


are you people actually happy to be laughed at by people?

this whole thing is so out of hand it makes you all look like gaming is the only world you live in

im not trying to bash, attack, flame or insult anyone and if anything im just venting my frustrations on the situation

Very good post. Quoted for emphasis.


it needed to be said and the new gamers need a leader and im happy to step up to the plate for that

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Tazzmission wrote...

i should file a sute against the fans because you all give me a headache and making me suffer from stress

seriously just stop


Yeah, like that would fly. You have the choice to leave and not be here.
We however don't have the choice to go back in time and not be fed lies and buy into a 60$ game that was sold to us using false advertising and half truths.

Tazz you really are one of the worst of the "defenders" here because you don't even accept that wrong has been done. And your logic is always backwards when you do make a statement. It's like you live in a fantasy world that only revolves around you and your opinion. Well news flash! You and your opinion don't mean jack squat in the grand scheme of things, and this isn't some upside down fantasy world where everything is backwards and upside-down.

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STANLEY WOO HERE, END OF LINE , TY VERY MUCH. GTG, MY LITTLE PONY IS COMING ON AND I DONT WANNA MISS IT. THOSE LITTLE FEMALE PONIES ARE JUST SO SILLY. IM NOT ACCEPTED IRL, BUT MY BRONIES UNDERSTAND ME.

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Uneazy wrote...

STANLEY WOO HERE, END OF LINE , TY VERY MUCH. GTG, MY LITTLE PONY IS COMING ON AND I DONT WANNA MISS IT. THOSE LITTLE FEMALE PONIES ARE JUST SO SILLY. IM NOT ACCEPTED IRL, BUT MY BRONIES UNDERSTAND ME.


Quick, quick edit your post dude!

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XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Uneazy wrote...

STANLEY WOO HERE, END OF LINE , TY VERY MUCH. GTG, MY LITTLE PONY IS COMING ON AND I DONT WANNA MISS IT. THOSE LITTLE FEMALE PONIES ARE JUST SO SILLY. IM NOT ACCEPTED IRL, BUT MY BRONIES UNDERSTAND ME.


Quick, quick edit your post dude!


Too late you quoted it, i'm ruined for life

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XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i should file a sute against the fans because you all give me a headache and making me suffer from stress

seriously just stop


Yeah, like that would fly. You have the choice to leave and not be here.
We however don't have the choice to go back in time and not be fed lies and buy into a 60$ game that was sold to us using false advertising and half truths.

Tazz you really are one of the worst of the "defenders" here because you don't even accept that wrong has been done. And your logic is always backwards when you do make a statement. It's like you live in a fantasy world that only revolves around you and your opinion. Well news flash! You and your opinion don't mean jack squat in the grand scheme of things, and this isn't some upside down fantasy world where everything is backwards and upside-down.


says the guy who screams conspiracy and hijacks possitive threads all the time

look in the mirrior next time you want to argue on how the world centers around anyone you 
narcissistic troll

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says the guy who screams conspiracy and hijacks possitive threads all the time

look in the mirrior next time you want to argue on how the world centers around anyone you 
narcissistic troll



Says the guy who can no longer use a "minority"/"majority" argument and thus labels everyone who doesn't agree with him a cult member and is the one who actually hijacks threads..... and I'm the one who needs to look in a mirror.

Should I go through here and count and list how many people you have insulted in this thread alone? Or how many threads where you respond every 5 minutes to every post ever? Yeah... it's like that. And I'm the troll.

Here's something you may not know. Nobody likes you or respects anything you have to say anymore. Nobody.

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XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

says the guy who screams conspiracy and hijacks possitive threads all the time

look in the mirrior next time you want to argue on how the world centers around anyone you 
narcissistic troll



Says the guy who can no longer use a "minority"/"majority" argument and thus labels everyone who doesn't agree with him a cult member and is the one who actually hijacks threads..... and I'm the one who needs to look in a mirror.

Should I go through here and count and list how many people you have insulted in this thread alone? Or how many threads where you respond every 5 minutes to every post ever? Yeah... it's like that. And I'm the troll.

Here's something you may not know. Nobody likes you or respects anything you have to say anymore. Nobody.


at least i dont go around proclaiming to be martin luther king or the womens movment wile hiding behind a chairty

i dont care if you do or dont like me but you are going to repsect me 

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Guys, please stop derailing this thread, it has pretty good OP, but now it deteriorated into bickering and trolling. Keep on topic, or mods will lock it.

I really wish there was "ignore" option in these forums.

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Kub666 wrote...

Guys, please stop derailing this thread, it has pretty good OP, but now it deteriorated into bickering and trolling. Keep on topic, or mods will lock it.

I really wish there was "ignore" option in these forums.


so do i and im sorry for derailing it but that little punk jump started this whole mess

maybe we should ask the mods to introduce a ignore feature because that can solve alot of problems

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Tazzmission wrote...
it needed to be said and the new gamers need a leader and im happy to step up to the plate for that


-AAHahhahah.... *ghasp* ... Hahhahah....

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This whole thing is really very ugly. Bioware truly is playing with fire. First DA2, then an only so so TOR, now this? Really ugly. At least TOR, being an MMO, has time on it's side. Plenty of room to improve and perfect the things that are missing. Single player games don't have the same luxury. Well, unless you count dlc and expansions. Still.....

It's really amazing how only a year or so ago, they were the darlings of the industry in the eyes of their fans. ....the most loyal fans, like the Bethesda fan. How fast things can change. Just proves that taking your fanbase for granted is never a good thing. I get the sense they feel we'll just buy anything they put out because it's a Bioware product.

Not anymore.


You can release a game that pleases your fans and do very well without gimmicks and empty promises. Look at Skyrim. It has sold around 10 to 11 MILLION COPIES....and counting and it's STILL in keeping with the ideas of the series. No multiplayer. No double talk from Todd Howard. No need for PR damage control. No list of contradictory statements to throw back at devs. Instead of multiplayer...we got The Creation Kit. Need I say more?

If this was all intentionally planned to push DLC, it's a very dangerous game to play. I can't see how ANYONE at Bioware would think these endings would be widely accepted by most when you take into account how deeply invested fans have been with the series. They seem designed to be controversial.

Unless they have something truly spectacular.....like the series deserves, waiting in the wings, this whole situation and all the bad press it has generated, not to mention what it has done to a considerable amount of fans, is only going to hurt Bioware in the end.

Modifié par cljqnsnyc, 19 mars 2012 - 10:14 .