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[dfstone]

dbal wrote...

P47 ace wrote...

Back to the satitics argument, nations polls done by the Gov and private corperation number only in the few thousands, 10,000 is the largest sample size I have seen

So when 50,000+ people vote and 86+% say that the game ending sucks, that calls for a little more than pause. That is a huge sample, sure their are some that don't vote but those are mainly casual gamers and not hardcore, or devoted gamers like most people on this forum.

With that the consensious is pretty odvious
Sure you can dissaggre and say that you do but that dose not change the fact that more people do not feel the same as you. that is no reason to say the whole movement is unjustified because you don't feel the same.

You can still voice your opinion, but don't troll it.

50k....out of how many that actually purchased the game?

Last I saw, 3.5 million.

[Ronin1325]

Guldhun2 wrote...

Remember the reviews? You know the ones, those that gave it a 10/10 and proclaiming it the "best game ever made".



Yeah, nothing odd there.

Yes, it's like the 21st century's version of the 19th's "Dr. Snakeoil's Cure-all Ligumemem! Brings the Spots back on your Dog! Makes those creaky knees feel like new! Lowers your taxes! Makes your wife prettier than ever and pretty if she wasn't!" and so on...

[roflchoppaz]

dfstone wrote...

Last I saw, 3.5 million.

Not purchased.

3.5 million shipped.

Different things.

Modifié par roflchoppaz, 19 mars 2012 - 02:14 .

[ZeBlob987]

dbal wrote...

P47 ace wrote...

Back to the satitics argument, nations polls done by the Gov and private corperation number only in the few thousands, 10,000 is the largest sample size I have seen

So when 50,000+ people vote and 86+% say that the game ending sucks, that calls for a little more than pause. That is a huge sample, sure their are some that don't vote but those are mainly casual gamers and not hardcore, or devoted gamers like most people on this forum.

With that the consensious is pretty odvious
Sure you can dissaggre and say that you do but that dose not change the fact that more people do not feel the same as you. that is no reason to say the whole movement is unjustified because you don't feel the same.

You can still voice your opinion, but don't troll it.

50k....out of how many that actually purchased the game?

  You're missing the point...if 1,500 people is considered representative of over 300 million people, then 50k is definitely representative of around 3.5 million people

[CroGamer002]

Almost 2 millions copies were sold, though.

[Elhanan]

Guldhun2 wrote...

Remember the reviews? You know the ones, those that gave it a 10/10 and proclaiming it the "best game ever made".

Yeah, nothing odd there.

Perhaps, but plenty seem to accept 1/5 or 1/10 as a valid opinion, and that is equally doubtful, especially as many are publically stating that it was gold until the final 10 min.

At least the 10/10 folks write consistently.....

[BaKaNoOB]

Banelash wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
.....

1) Obviously you didn't get the sarcastic reply, which bioware employs to evade a question.

2) You can't sue people discussing on the forum, they were not even defaming your reputation.

3) Just like you have opinions, too bad for you that most opinions do no match yours. no one is speaking for you, you are nobody to us, we are only speaking for ourselves.

4) This "moronic" movement, in case you didn't realise, is different as this time, the majority of this forum feels this way. And before you jump into that "yea well 50k is the minority out of total sales" argument, name me one game where ALL the customers joined the forum. A forum is a sample size of your customers. Even elections will never get everyone to vote. Surveys will never get everyone in their target audience to submit it.

I totaly agree and i can poin a game : Sword of the stars 2

[Guldhun2]

roflchoppaz wrote...

dfstone wrote...

Last I saw, 3.5 million.

Not purchased.

3.5 million shipped.

Different things.

Mesina2 wrote...

Almost 2 millions copies were sold, though.

For a game with such hype, with such high scoring 'professional' reviews that's terrible.

Modifié par Guldhun2, 19 mars 2012 - 02:18 .

[LeBurns]

Mesina2 wrote...

Almost 2 millions copies were sold, though.

Curious as to how many were pre-orders.  I recall the pre-orders of DA2 bringing that games numbers way up ... before reality hit the fan.

[dbal]

roflchoppaz wrote...

dfstone wrote...

Last I saw, 3.5 million.

Not purchased.

3.5 million shipped.

Different things.

http://techland.time...s-in-first-day/

890k first day purchased. so over 1 million today im guessing.


The ones asking for a different ending are the minority. ever since the dedicated servers issue with the cod series, the minority is speaking up the most and making themselves more verbal. When everything really boils down, people didnt like the ending and they demand a new one. seems very selfish and stinks of nerd rage..

[Guldhun2]

dbal wrote...


The ones asking for a different ending are the minority. ever since the dedicated servers issue with the cod series, the minority is speaking up the most and making themselves more verbal. When everything really boils down, people didnt like the ending and they demand a new one. seems very selfish and stinks of nerd rage..

BiowareEA: There's going to be wildly different endings, and all the choices you've made make a great deal of difference.

ME3: You get 3 different endings, the difference being the color tone you get for the cinematic.

[Elhanan]

LeBurns wrote...

Curious as to how many were pre-orders.  I recall the pre-orders of DA2 bringing that games numbers way up ... before reality hit the fan.

Actually, as DA2 being another case of folks tanking reviews purposely, that would be the so-called fans hitting reality....

[CroGamer002]

Guldhun2 wrote...

For a game with such hype, with such high scoring 'professional' reviews that's terrible.

So far it has better sales then ME2, considering time spam that is.


Plus, most sales are not confirmed yet, this are just speculated numbers.

Hell, PC sales are still unknown.

[Guldhun2]

Mesina2 wrote...

Guldhun2 wrote...

For a game with such hype, with such high scoring 'professional' reviews that's terrible.

So far it has better sales then ME2, considering time spam that is.


Plus, most sales are not confirmed yet, this are just speculated numbers.

Hell, PC sales are still unknown.

It recieved more hype than ME2 ever had.

[dbal]

Guldhun2 wrote...

dbal wrote...


The ones asking for a different ending are the minority. ever since the dedicated servers issue with the cod series, the minority is speaking up the most and making themselves more verbal. When everything really boils down, people didnt like the ending and they demand a new one. seems very selfish and stinks of nerd rage..

BiowareEA: There's going to be wildly different endings, and all the choices you've made make a great deal of difference.

ME3: You get 3 different endings, the difference being the color tone you get for the cinematic.

So the geth/quarian decision had no outcome on the fate of the galaxy? the turian/ krogan the same? yes, the endings were similar but its the content from the game that truly gives you the endings. I would give an example but no spoilers allowed lol

[spirosz]

Mesina2 wrote...

Almost 2 millions copies were sold, though.

I heard this in Major Coats voice.

[Guldhun2]

dbal wrote...

So the geth/quarian decision had no outcome on the fate of the galaxy? the turian/ krogan the same?

Without going into spoilers. Yes they have no outcome since [spoiler] happens at the end of ME3.

[Gatt9]

MalevoIence wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i should file a sute against the fans because you all give me a headache and making me suffer from stress

seriously just stop

I am seriously interested in your thoughts on the topic.  I will give them great thought.  Can you tell me what you did like about the fans who are giving you problems?

i think you mean didnt

i hate how the mornonic movement are ruining the game for new players

i persoanally am tired of being attacked for likeing something i payed for

im also tired of being accused of not playing the first two games and being called a bioware butt kisser


im also sick of hearing this movement speaks for every gamer when in fact they dont speak for me. i speak for me


who the hell are they to say they speak for every fan around the world?


this place use to be fun but now its like no life misery central occupied by people with no lives and get off to complaining and saying they know how a franchise they didnt even create should be


im mentally burnt out and honestly after the current display not just by fans but by gamers as a community it makes me ashamed to be a gamer because those idiots are gona have the whole gaming community targeted for critisizim


are you people actually happy to be laughed at by people?

this whole thing is so out of hand it makes you all look like gaming is the only world you live in

im not trying to bash, attack, flame or insult anyone and if anything im just venting my frustrations on the situation

I and many others are laughing at them, everytime I hear some guy say "hold the line" I do an eye roll, everytime I hear others protest by cancelling their swtor account I chuckle a bit.  Majority of ppl who believe they made a adequate game are the silent majority because they have no reason to complain, and are mature enough not to get in a heated debate over something that is so completely unimportant.  It's their game, that's how they chose to end it, they're not here to make lonely men happy, they're here to make money.  And frankly the gameplay in ME3 was great, story was cliche but adequate, and all in all, the series had an end; even left an open ending just in case they decide to revisit it.  I like the game, if others didn't they wouldn't be playing through it a second time.  Funny though, bet majority who are complaining are probably on their second or third playthrough.  You all need to grow up a little.  Tazz is right

Actually,  he's not.  The issue is being carried by major publications outside of the gaming industry.  It's not some tiny minority,  it's an increasingly large issue.

An issue that potentially ends with EA losing the NFL and FIFA licenses as they are both highly protective and don't want it associated with a publisher regarded industry wide as untrustworthy.

You may have liked it,  and I'm not knocking you for it,  but you really need to drop the "You're the majority!" thing.  Also  you may want to avoid commenting on maturity.  Especially when failing to use paragraphs,  using extreme levels of hyperbole,  and your arguement is basically the "Appeal to God" type by trying to invoke some unknown entity you claim is on your side.  It reads like a highschool paper.

[dbal]

Guldhun2 wrote...

dbal wrote...

So the geth/quarian decision had no outcome on the fate of the galaxy? the turian/ krogan the same?

Without going into spoilers. Yes they have no outcome since [spoiler] happens at the end of ME3.

wow if this is how people believe how the story went then i have no faith in the community for bioware. Your decisions in the game do change the galaxy throughout the game. If this is the thinking than bioware should have made a much more simple plot so people can understand it.  /insert nerdrage PEACE work time

[Visii]

>_> False advertising...

[Ronin1325]

dbal wrote...

Guldhun2 wrote...

dbal wrote...


The ones asking for a different ending are the minority. ever since the dedicated servers issue with the cod series, the minority is speaking up the most and making themselves more verbal. When everything really boils down, people didnt like the ending and they demand a new one. seems very selfish and stinks of nerd rage..

BiowareEA: There's going to be wildly different endings, and all the choices you've made make a great deal of difference.

ME3: You get 3 different endings, the difference being the color tone you get for the cinematic.

So the geth/quarian decision had no outcome on the fate of the galaxy? the turian/ krogan the same? yes, the endings were similar but its the content from the game that truly gives you the endings. I would give an example but no spoilers allowed lol

Yes, one could make the arguement that since ME3 is the last in a trilogy, the entire game is an 'ending', and for CYA-Purposes, that is most likely what Bioware will claim. But when most people are referring to the ending of a story, they are referring to the Climax, which is definitely the ending point of this game, the Crucible segment. And at *that* point, everyone is the same, all previous choices mean nothing, only EMS matters if you want every possible option (such as they are) open to you.

[Aggressor01]

Ronin1325 wrote...

Aggressor01 wrote...

Nevermind if you liked ME3 or not. We have to realize that all these statements are made so fans pre-order their copy.

Now EA laugh all the way to the bank and say: Let them be pissed a few weeks more, then we release the standard DLC and an optional that they need to pay for. 

"ending" I assume you meant? Yeah... probably. <_<  I don't mind repeating though, maybe in the vain hope that Bioware hears... that if they released a DLC ending 'fix' for free, and match the Child's Play donation up to that point, they would turn this big pile of lead into pure gold.

Yup, i just didnt want to spell it out. What already have been said a thousand times here already.

[Remington]

It is unbelievable that these comments came from the same people that produced the ending. It does not make any sense. And I still do not believe that one person at Bioware actually likes this ending.

I know you must be having a hard time right now with all the outrage going on. Looking back on the whole series and all its perfection until the last 10 minutes of part three... no, you did not intend to end the series that way. I think you were just running out of time to create a proper one.

[Ravennus]

I'm glad someone finally put together a comprehensive list of all the lies we were told.

Agreed that this is unacceptable.

[BillsVengenace]

Modifié par BillsVengenace, 19 mars 2012 - 03:14 .