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[GME_ThorianCreeper]

No offence, but all I am seeing is this...

"Mommy, the big bad corporation lied to us!"

You guys are acting like this is the first time corporations have lied to people. I mean come on, if every corporation was sued for falsely advertising and not keeping promises would there even be any corporations?

Welcome to the world.

[Super.Sid]

GME_ThorianCreeper wrote...

No offence, but all I am seeing is this...

"Mommy, the big bad corporation lied to us!"

You guys are acting like this is the first time corporations have lied to people. I mean come on, if every corporation was sued for falsely advertising and not keeping promises would there even be any corporations?

Welcome to the world.

At least people are acting in stead of staying passive. Since no one cared till now, this stuff has been going on.

[Gatt9]

GME_ThorianCreeper wrote...

No offence, but all I am seeing is this...

"Mommy, the big bad corporation lied to us!"

You guys are acting like this is the first time corporations have lied to people. I mean come on, if every corporation was sued for falsely advertising and not keeping promises would there even be any corporations?

Welcome to the world.

It's a good thing that both the EU and the US have strict laws regarding that kind of behavior,  along with the other things EA's done with this release,  isn't it?

Because all I'm seeing here in the defense of these issues are people willing to flush money without a word of protest.  Which is exactly how we got into this situation,  and exactly why the game industry is posting month after month of negative growth for years.

[BlackoutBasement]

Don't forget that the "closure" that was given to us was a statement made by an unknown character after the credits that tells us that "some of the details has been lost in time" which raises the question if any of the choices we made actually happened or mattered at all since apparently our story is being told to somebody else by his own understanding of the thing. >_>

[Kub666]

GME_ThorianCreeper wrote...
You guys are acting like this is the first time corporations have lied to people. I mean come on, if every corporation was sued for falsely advertising and not keeping promises would there even be any corporations?

You don't understand free market, do you? No offense.

[BatmanPWNS]

The only lie that pissed me off was the MP lie. Good God, I don't want to play MP. Where's my Shep live ending, Bioware!

[jbadm04]

sorentoft wrote...



50.000 is more than enough to make a reasonable assumption on what the playerbase thinks. It paints a general picture. Statistics 101 for you.

Statistics 101 for you :
a) do not trust a statistic you havent falisifed yourself
you dont have to be a genius to modify a statistic so far, that it says, what you want it to say

[Ronin1325]

GME_ThorianCreeper wrote...

No offence, but all I am seeing is this...

"Mommy, the big bad corporation lied to us!"

You guys are acting like this is the first time corporations have lied to people. I mean come on, if every corporation was sued for falsely advertising and not keeping promises would there even be any corporations?

Welcome to the world.

You ask that like the alternative is bad or something...

[IndustrializedTaco]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i should file a sute against the fans because you all give me a headache and making me suffer from stress

seriously just stop

They won't. They won't stop until the run everyone off the boards, have Obama get involved, and make gamers everywhere look like a bunch of whining entitled idjits. They will never take us seriously again.

And what's really the kicker, they're doing all of this for nothing. Bioware isn't going to change anything. EA won't change anything. The only success they will have is to make everyone look at ALL gamers in a bad light.

That's kind of insulting. I don't feel entitled to anything. Frankly we have been very civil, and calm about this. In fact if you haven't heard we have donated almost 70k to childs play. I don't know where you get your information from, but I respectfully disagree with both you, and Tazz's stances on us. Bioware promised a great deal of things, and did not deliever. We are simply requesting they correct it. Please before you bring the flame swords, read, and understand our protest.

[Headrusher]

Yeah, so basically the "anti change the ending" camp is willing to bend over and accept whatever the "big bad corporations" are doing, namely, lying to their customers.

Got it. Keep on trucking ****s. You guys don't look retarded at all...

[Xannerz]

Woah.

[liggy002]

Mass Effect 3 will shake up the player's moral choices more than ever
before, even going so far as allowing the Reapers to win the battle
for Earth, according to BioWare's community representative Mike
Gamble.


Really? Then they had better have DLC with that content.

[Ronin1325]

And this should be added to the list as well-
http://press2reset.c...-mass-effect-3/

If you read the whole article from RYG, you'll see they were deliberately dishonest about it as well-

http://www.reclaimyo...G-Evaluates-ME3

[Dreez]

Ohh btw. People claming that Bioware had to rush the ending because players was
demanding a release is full of BS. Me personally wasn't holding my breath for the release,
i wanted a majestic ending, the ENDINGS we were promised, and i hadn't cared if it would
have taken another 6 months before released.

So try another scapegoat then the players. I didn't even know ME3 was released until i read
the review in the newspapers... To me, ME3 would be released WHEN IT WAS READY.

Which is so obviously wasn't.

[Uneazy]

http://gifsoup.com/i...?id=3530924&t=o GIFSoup

[Ronin1325]

Dreez wrote...

Ohh btw. People claming that Bioware had to rush the ending because players was
demanding a release is full of BS. Me personally wasn't holding my breath for the release,
i wanted a majestic ending, the ENDINGS we were promised, and i hadn't cared if it would
have taken another 6 months before released.

So try another scapegoat then the players. I didn't even know ME3 was released until i read
the review in the newspapers... To me, ME3 would be released WHEN IT WAS READY.

Which is so obviously wasn't.

Well I came across a number of Dev comments in November ->January all talking up about how since it was the last in the trilogy they could have the most flexible ending possible. Aaaand we all know how that turned out. <_<

[MegaBadExample]

Kub666 wrote...

Hah, this is good.

My favorite, from Casey:

"It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C."

Nice. They really did troll us all.

 
Oh, wow.

...They really hyped us up for this didn't they? And then couldn't deliver.

[Phategod1]

You what the restitution should be? Casey Hudson playing the world smallest violin for all you whiners. You paid for a game, you received a game. I have never witness a such a bunch of entitled cry babies in my life. Someone in another thread said the customer is always right in that case your arguament is with the seller not the producer bub, and to that person ever heard the expression buyer beware.

[Uneazy]

Phategod1 wrote...

You what the restitution should be? Casey Hudson playing the world smallest violin for all you whiners. You paid for a game, you received a game. I have never witness a such a bunch of entitled cry babies in my life. Someone in another thread said the customer is always right in that case your arguament is with the seller not the producer bub, and to that person ever heard the expression buyer beware.

"I have never witness" 

Troll or just an idiot. Either way, I quit reading after that.

[lyssalu]

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i should file a sute against the fans because you all give me a headache and making me suffer from stress

seriously just stop

I am seriously interested in your thoughts on the topic.  I will give them great thought.  Can you tell me what you did like about the fans who are giving you problems?

omg it's so ****ing funny how this always works

[Petrikles]

Thank youfor doing the work. I think that list speaks for itself.

Now, one can point out that Bioware did not need to talk so much about the game during development. But they did, and it was (false?) advertising. So, to a certain degree, they are responsible to follow up their talk, and thus "liable" to their fans.

[Lotion Soronarr]

The irony that most of those quotes lines are not lies...not technicly.

Think about it for a second.

Modifié par Lotion Soronnar, 20 mars 2012 - 09:20 .

[Lincoln MuaDib]

Phategod1 wrote...
You what the restitution should be? Casey Hudson playing the world smallest violin for all you whiners. You paid for a game, you received a game. I have never witness a such a bunch of entitled cry babies in my life.

Allow me to use an analogy that you perhaps will understand.

Let's say you pay for a massage with a "happy ending" (pun unintended). The masseuse looks nice, you've paid in advance etc etc . . . then just as the massage is almost finishes, she (or he, if you'd prefer) GRABS A MALLET AND WHACKS YOU IN THE BALLS WITH IT. As you lie writhing in pain on the ground, the masseuse/ masseur shugs and says, "You paid for a massage, you got a massage."

Or et's say you pay for a car that you've been promised is a Ferrari. The car looks GREAT, you've paid in advance etc etc . . . you jump in, you're driving along happily, then THE ENGINE EXPLODES. As you sit in stunned incomprehension in the burnt-out ruins of the car, the dealer shugs and says, "You paid for a Ferrari, you got a Ferrari. I know I didn't mention the bomb in the engine, and yes, I know I specifically PROMISED that there'd be no bombs in the engine, but hey, it's still a car."


Is the game awesome to play? Yes. Will some people still love it? Yes.

But you CANNOT sell an item that is fundamentally not what it was advertised to be.

[ringdrossel]

Phategod1 wrote...
Let's say you pay for a massage with a "happy ending" (pun unintended). The masseuse looks nice, you've paid in advance etc etc . . . then just as the massage is almost finishes, she (or he, if you'd prefer) GRABS A MALLET AND WHACKS YOU IN THE BALLS WITH IT. As you lie writhing in pain on the ground, the masseuse/ masseur shugs and says, "You paid for a massage, you got a massage."

I think you nailed it. This is exactly how I felt after beating the game... and it hurts like hell

[VolusvsReaper]

Headrusher wrote...

Yeah, so basically the "anti change the ending" camp is willing to bend over and accept whatever the "big bad corporations" are doing, namely, lying to their customers.

Got it. Keep on trucking ****s. You guys don't look retarded at all...

So because people don't agree with you they look retarded? Is this the face of the supposed "Movement"? What a spokesman.