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Ghost Warrior wrote...

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It boils down to "Pick your favorite color explosion".

Yeah,you are right. You just decide the fate of entire galaxy,lives of millions of geth,maybe choose to turn everyone into hybrids...no choice at all. (sarcasm)


My bad. Your choices are-

Remove the Reapers as a threat. Overall civilization is still borked, and Shepard is still dead. Normandy is gone. Relays explode blue/red.

Synthesize everyone. Create a utopia (inb4 people saying this is a good idea). Identity is lost, become prothean empire 2.0. Shepard is still dead. Normandy is still gone. Relays explode green.

(2) Choices, choices everywhere!

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Farbautisonn wrote...

a) He doesnt really seem to be in the mood for a compromise.

B) I am enjoying myself.

a) I am always ready to admit I'm wrong if I think I am,just remember that.

B) Me too.

Eventually, I might even agree to disagree. Just might. :P

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Ghost Warrior wrote...

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Shepard would not be like "Yeah, okay Godchild you are so right!" Shepard would have said "I won't do it."

And then Reapers destroy everything and everyone. Ingenious,I gotta admit.


You are not understanding this. The endings should have NEVER been written the way they were.


They aleady said they rushed it, it was slapped together in a hurry because they were to busy with the MP. That right there is enough to ****** off all of the fans. If you liked it or not. The fact that a game that we have been looking forward to for 5 years got the ending rushed. Is a slap in the mouth to all of us.

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Mass Effect 3's Director Casey Hudson - ".......At this point we’re taking into account so many decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them."

And yet that's exactly what we got in the endings. Choice A, B, or C.

Hudson - “Fans want to make sure that they see things resolved, they want to get
some closure, a great ending. I think they’re going to get that.”

And yet the majority of fans not just here, NOT JUST HERE, are bringing up the same inconsistencies we are here. Since I can't spoil anything here. I won't. I can't really without getting myself banned eventually or this thread locked down. And I don't want either. But I will say there are way too many loose ends at the end to justify this statement as being true, for me at least.

Associate Producer Mike Gamble - “There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?”

I find that to be inconsistent with the endings because fundamentally all we get are 3 very similar endings with very very minute changes with no previous game(s) choices really effecting the outcomes. I'd call that being forced into a bespoke ending.

I don't want to seem like this is a personal attack against anyone in particular. It's not, really. But what was said prior to and what we got after are two entirely different things in my opinion.

So why I think that the endings aren't lore breaking, they are trilogy breaking. Mainly because I look at all three games here and see no reason to replay them or buy DLC for them. No reason whatsoever right now.

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Assume (defintion) - Ass-U-Me?

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Assuming is nice, isn't it?

You assumed I like the endings. I don't.

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If i were you guys, i would stop hating on Ghost Whatever over here. (which i would too, but i mean, c'mon, cyberbullying? LOLZ) Instead, put ME3 BACK in your xbox or PS3 or whatever you played it on, and GO GET ALL THE WAR ASSETS. It will make the ending to the game THAT much better.

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Mass Effect 3's Director Casey Hudson - ".......At this point we’re taking into account so many decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them."

And yet that's exactly what we got in the endings. Choice A, B, or C.

Hudson - “Fans want to make sure that they see things resolved, they want to get
some closure, a great ending. I think they’re going to get that.”

And yet the majority of fans not just here, NOT JUST HERE, are bringing up the same inconsistencies we are here. Since I can't spoil anything here. I won't. I can't really without getting myself banned eventually or this thread locked down. And I don't want either. But I will say there are way too many loose ends at the end to justify this statement as being true, for me at least.

Associate Producer Mike Gamble - “There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?”

I find that to be inconsistent with the endings because fundamentally all we get are 3 very similar endings with very very minute changes with no previous game(s) choices really effecting the outcomes. I'd call that being forced into a bespoke ending.

I don't want to seem like this is a personal attack against anyone in particular. It's not, really. But what was said prior to and what we got after are two entirely different things in my opinion.

So why I think that the endings aren't lore breaking, they are trilogy breaking. Mainly because I look at all three games here and see no reason to replay them or buy DLC for them. No reason whatsoever right now.


THIS!!!!!

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bleachorange wrote...

Assume (defintion) - Ass-U-Me?

lol

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FatalX7.0 wrote...

The end of the Line people are worse than the Hold the Line people.


They like the ending, so anyone who has invested time, emotions and money into the series over the past 5 years is entitled, brats, ****es or kids.

Incredible, absolutely incredible.



exactly what i think and have noticed

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Mr vas normandy wrote...

If i were you guys, i would stop hating on Ghost Whatever over here. (which i would too, but i mean, c'mon, cyberbullying? LOLZ) Instead, put ME3 BACK in your xbox or PS3 or whatever you played it on, and GO GET ALL THE WAR ASSETS. It will make the ending to the game THAT much better.


You only need 5000 EMS for Shepard to  "live".

(Lawl @ "live". Citadel just exploded on top of him, and he took Harbinger's death-beam. He may be alive, but not for long)

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

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It boils down to "Pick your favorite color explosion".

Yeah,you are right. You just decide the fate of entire galaxy,lives of millions of geth,maybe choose to turn everyone into hybrids...no choice at all. (sarcasm)


My bad. Your choices are-

Remove the Reapers as a threat. Overall civilization is still borked, and Shepard is still dead. Normandy is gone. Relays explode blue/red.

Synthesize everyone. Create a utopia (inb4 people saying this is a good idea). Identity is lost, become prothean empire 2.0. Shepard is still dead. Normandy is still gone. Relays explode green.

(2) Choices, choices everywhere!


You forgot green.



I like this because he lists out the discrepancies.

And this. http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/

And this. http://kotaku.com/58...tag=mass-effect

And this, at 10:29.

And this. http://www.forbes.co...ass-effect-3/2/

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Mr vas normandy wrote...

If i were you guys, i would stop hating on Ghost Whatever over here. (which i would too, but i mean, c'mon, cyberbullying? LOLZ) Instead, put ME3 BACK in your xbox or PS3 or whatever you played it on, and GO GET ALL THE WAR ASSETS. It will make the ending to the game THAT much better.

Ghost has been trolling for to long for him to get any new respect from anyone, as for the war assets that bit has been disproven or we wouldn't be here

Modifié par slyguy200, 19 mars 2012 - 12:18 .


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Mr vas normandy wrote...

If i were you guys, i would stop hating on Ghost Whatever over here. (which i would too, but i mean, c'mon, cyberbullying? LOLZ) Instead, put ME3 BACK in your xbox or PS3 or whatever you played it on, and GO GET ALL THE WAR ASSETS. It will make the ending to the game THAT much better.


I'm sorry to have to disagree with you on that. It does change your perspective a little, but most of the problems with the ending are not relating to Shepard living or not. That said, there is one way to view the ending as is and not lose all hope. It's in my sig. banner.

:wizard: Spaaaaace MAGIC!!!:wizard:

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Ghost Warrior wrote...

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Assuming is nice, isn't it?

You assumed I like the endings. I don't.


I don't remember quoting you or anyone in specific.

Seemed more like a generalization to me.

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slyguy200 wrote...

Mr vas normandy wrote...

If i were you guys, i would stop hating on Ghost Whatever over here. (which i would too, but i mean, c'mon, cyberbullying? LOLZ) Instead, put ME3 BACK in your xbox or PS3 or whatever you played it on, and GO GET ALL THE WAR ASSETS. It will make the ending to the game THAT much better.

Ghost has been trolling for to long for him to get any new respect from anyone, as for the war assets that bit has been disproven or we wouldn't be here

Trolling? Because I don't agree with you 100%? If not,what is it then?

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FatalX7.0 wrote...

You forgot green.



Synthesize everyone. Create a utopia (inb4 people saying this is a good idea). Identity is lost, become prothean empire 2.0. Shepard is still dead. Normandy is still gone. Relays explode green.


No I didn't.

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wastelander75 wrote...

Mass Effect 3's Director Casey Hudson - ".......At this point we’re taking into account so many decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them."

And yet that's exactly what we got in the endings. Choice A, B, or C.

Hudson - “Fans want to make sure that they see things resolved, they want to get
some closure, a great ending. I think they’re going to get that.”

And yet the majority of fans not just here, NOT JUST HERE, are bringing up the same inconsistencies we are here. Since I can't spoil anything here. I won't. I can't really without getting myself banned eventually or this thread locked down. And I don't want either. But I will say there are way too many loose ends at the end to justify this statement as being true, for me at least.

Associate Producer Mike Gamble - “There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?”

I find that to be inconsistent with the endings because fundamentally all we get are 3 very similar endings with very very minute changes with no previous game(s) choices really effecting the outcomes. I'd call that being forced into a bespoke ending.

I don't want to seem like this is a personal attack against anyone in particular. It's not, really. But what was said prior to and what we got after are two entirely different things in my opinion.

So why I think that the endings aren't lore breaking, they are trilogy breaking. Mainly because I look at all three games here and see no reason to replay them or buy DLC for them. No reason whatsoever right now.


I dont think i could of come up with something better than this, well spoken sir.

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Time to go find a more interesting thread. Circular logic and flame baiting all over the place in here now.

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Ghost Warrior wrote...

a) I am always ready to admit I'm wrong if I think I am,just remember that.

-Highlighted the part I found amusing.

Eventually, I might even agree to disagree. Just might. :P


-Well.. Hope springs eternal.

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Ghost Warrior wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...
It boils down to "Pick your favorite color explosion".

Yeah,you are right. You just decide the fate of entire galaxy,lives of millions of geth,maybe choose to turn everyone into hybrids...no choice at all. (sarcasm)


Considering that you're dooming billions of lives in all the endings by destroying all the mass relays (you killed millions by blowing up the Citadel too), cutting off several worlds that were ravaged by the Reapers (Earth, Palaven, Thessia) from much needed supplies and overall support to rebuild? Not to mention the thousands of ships in Earth's orbit, consisting mostly of alien ships that'll never see their own homeworlds again? Yeah. Some choice.

Do I need to mention how the ending completely ignores how or what you acquired and did to gain those war assets and is just looking at the score to decide whenever it should give you a 30 second clip of Shepard taking a breath after surviving what I'd assume would be another orbital drop?

Or how you're effectively doing the Reapers' job for them, when the goal of the entire game was to stop the Reapers, not shake hands with them and in some weird and twisted way try to justify the destruction of thousands of civilizations in the previous cycles?

It must be fun, knowing that Mordin's, Thane's and Legion's sacrifices were for no good reason whatsoever as well.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

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You forgot green.



Synthesize everyone. Create a utopia (inb4 people saying this is a good idea). Identity is lost, become prothean empire 2.0. Shepard is still dead. Normandy is still gone. Relays explode green.


No I didn't.





Oh, my bad.

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Mr vas normandy wrote...

If i were you guys, i would stop hating on Ghost Whatever over here. (which i would too, but i mean, c'mon, cyberbullying? LOLZ) Instead, put ME3 BACK in your xbox or PS3 or whatever you played it on, and GO GET ALL THE WAR ASSETS. It will make the ending to the game THAT much better.

-Wait... wat? 

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slyguy200 wrote...

Mr vas normandy wrote...

If i were you guys, i would stop hating on Ghost Whatever over here. (which i would too, but i mean, c'mon, cyberbullying? LOLZ) Instead, put ME3 BACK in your xbox or PS3 or whatever you played it on, and GO GET ALL THE WAR ASSETS. It will make the ending to the game THAT much better.

Ghost has been trolling for to long for him to get any new respect from anyone, as for the war assets that bit has been disproven or we wouldn't be here

Trolling? Because I don't agree with you 100%? If not,what is it then?


Well, maybe not trolling but either way you have really not been "civil" most of the time and have ultimatly Ddisrespected almost everybody who has for this whole forum and others. So i hereby label you a troll in my book(DON'T ASK ABOUT THE BOOK UNLESS YOU WANT ME RO MAKE A 2 HOUR TEXT WALL)

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

Mr vas normandy wrote...

If i were you guys, i would stop hating on Ghost Whatever over here. (which i would too, but i mean, c'mon, cyberbullying? LOLZ) Instead, put ME3 BACK in your xbox or PS3 or whatever you played it on, and GO GET ALL THE WAR ASSETS. It will make the ending to the game THAT much better.


You only need 5000 EMS for Shepard to  "live".

(Lawl @ "live". Citadel just exploded on top of him, and he took Harbinger's death-beam. He may be alive, but not for long)



I don't see the issue then! As far as we know, Shepard is alive. He's had the Citadel fall on him before, he preformed a "suicide" mission and survived. The hell he/she can't survive this? Sure, if BioWare bulit something on from THAT, wouldn't that be fine? 

Also, thanks for correcting me on how many War Assets needed.