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[_symphony]

BioWare used deceptive advertising when selling their product, making a complain to the FTC is within our rights, maybe the FTC will dismiss it, but that shouldn't stop us from using any tools available when a company outright lie to its customers.

Modifié par _symphony, 18 mars 2012 - 11:43 .

[nikola8]

Yttrian wrote...

It's a product that was advertised with qualities different than it actually has.

i.e. 16 different tailored endings with vast connections to previous games, choices and the consequences thereof, that answers the majority of player questions and gives closure to most aspects of the Mass Effect universe.

That is really only a matter of perception.  You get to end the Quarian/Geth war based on choices in the previous games.  You get to handle the genophage based on choices in previous games.  Your dealings with the Rachni are different based on your actions in ME1.  No, there isn't some grandiose ending scene, but rather, as Casey Hudson put it, the game is "a series of endings."  The WHOLE game is the ending.  To say that they misadvertised is wrong.  To say you personally didn't get closure or didn't subjectively like the endings is more accurate.  But they did fulfill their advertising, just not in the way some people expected.

[Scoob]

AJRimmsey wrote...

Scoob wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
like i said again the ftc will laugh and say get out because real world issues are in fact more important

Listen, all i am trying to do is have a civil debate about not attacking individuals for excercising their rights. If all you are going to do is point fingers, laugh and be condecending, please feel free to do so in other topics.

you do know we saw you open this one directly over the other FTC thread ?

Then you should also know that i made the same arguments in the original FTC topic before it was shut down. In the meantime, several other topics were opened blasting the individual and i decided to open this topic to open up a different kind of debate on this topic. Thus, in conclusion, i have no idea how those other topics should affect my arguments made.

BioWare used deceptive advertisement when selling their product, making a
complain to the FTC is within our rights, maybe the FTC will dismiss
it, but that shouldn't stop us from using any tools available when a
company outright lie to its customers.

My point exactly. Someone used a tool that was provided within his or hers legal rights, so i see no real issue here.

[SalsaDMA]

Mike Shepard wrote...

Someone filed a complaint with the FTC over the ENDING TO THE GAME?

By God. I've seen everything...When I am President I am going to have a mess on my hands...

No. As far as I understand it, some people have filed a complaint because the product they were promised weren't the product they were delivered; and the developer of said product have made no inclination to actually provide the product promised when queried about it.

That's the issue.

If you somehow feel companies shouldn't be required to sell you the actual product you think you are buying, then that is your prerogative. Just don't expect everyone to agree with you.

[RoboticWater]

1) It's a video game
2) There's no case
   >ME3 did have varying endings (not completely different but different)
   >Your choices do actually matter in ME3 just not wholely in the end

Modifié par BlahDog, 18 mars 2012 - 11:47 .

[Thunderfurby]

It doesn't matter if anything actually happens with the complaint, whether you agree with it or not.

The point is Bioware will now be known as the company that made a game ending so bad that it got an FTC complaint.

It's not about getting anything out of the complaint, it's about letting Bioware know that the **** they pulled is bad for their brand image.

Modifié par Thunderfurby, 18 mars 2012 - 11:44 .

[SalsaDMA]

Tazzmission wrote...

like i said again the ftc will laugh and say get out because real world issues are in fact more important

I find your obsessed need to try and ridicule people disturbing, tbh.

Are you afraid of something since you feel a need to make personal attacks on these people with this frequency?

[cotheer]

_symphony wrote...

BioWare used deceptive advertisement when selling their product, making a complain to the FTC is within our rights, maybe the FTC will dismiss it, but that shouldn't stop us from using any tools available when a company outright lie to its customers.

This is something that majority just don't understand, or doesn't want to understand.

The complaint wasn't about the endings, it was about the whole biowares' "ME3 is next best thing after orgasms" approach, which was pure LIE.

[Scoob]

Thunderfurby wrote...

It doesn't matter if anything actually happens with the complaint, whether you agree with it or not.

The point is Bioware will now be known as the company that made a game ending so bad that it got an FTC complaint.

It's not about getting anything out of the complaint, it's about letting Bioware know that the **** they pulled is bad for their brand image.

Well not exactly, i do feel there needs to be some logic behind the complaint and since there is, i agree that the complaint was valid. Filing complaints as a means to intentionally harm a company without a base that consists of logical arguments is something i do not endorse.

Modifié par Scoob, 18 mars 2012 - 11:47 .

[RoboticWater]

Thunderfurby wrote...

It doesn't matter if anything actually happens with the complaint, whether you agree with it or not.

The point is Bioware will now be known as the company that made a game ending so bad that it got an FTC complaint.

It's not about getting anything out of the complaint, it's about letting Bioware know that the **** they pulled is bad for their brand image.

The Mass Effect sex scandal was equally unfounded and did next to nothing.

Modifié par BlahDog, 18 mars 2012 - 11:47 .

[AJRimmsey]

SalsaDMA wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

like i said again the ftc will laugh and say get out because real world issues are in fact more important

I find your obsessed need to try and ridicule people disturbing, tbh.

Are you afraid of something since you feel a need to make personal attacks on these people with this frequency?

I find your obsessive need to try and ridicule people disturbing, tbh.

Are you also afraid of something since you feel a need to make personal attacks on these people with this frequency?

[SalsaDMA]

BlahDog wrote...

1) It's a video game
2) There's no case
   >ME3 did have varying endings (not completely different but different)
   >Your choices do actually matter in ME3 just not in the end

1) irrelevant. It's a product like any other product.

2) that is for the FTC to figure out, not you.

[nikola8]

Thunderfurby wrote...

The point is Bioware will now be known as the company that made a game ending so bad that it got an FTC complaint.

The first Mass Effect had a huge expose on Fox News about the graphic sexuality in the game (a spot that was highly inaccurate).  GTA thrives on getting banned by parent groups.  So I highly doubt that Bioware is sweating getting labelled as the game with an FTC complaint.  If anything, it's almost a 'badge of honor'.

[RoboticWater]

SalsaDMA wrote...

BlahDog wrote...

1) It's a video game
2) There's no case
   >ME3 did have varying endings (not completely different but different)
   >Your choices do actually matter in ME3 just not in the end

1) irrelevant. It's a product like any other product.

2) that is for the FTC to figure out, not you.

1) It's hard to take a case such as this seriously. An actual case would be if instead of getting a cancer-curing drug, you got advil
2) Well, I just did their work for them. Where's my money?

Modifié par BlahDog, 18 mars 2012 - 11:50 .

[Scoob]

AJRimmsey wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

like i said again the ftc will laugh and say get out because real world issues are in fact more important

I find your obsessed need to try and ridicule people disturbing, tbh.

Are you afraid of something since you feel a need to make personal attacks on these people with this frequency?

I find your obsessive need to try and ridicule people disturbing, tbh.

Are you also afraid of something since you feel a need to make personal attacks on these people with this frequency?

Alright everyone calm down. Either you make valid arguments and add to the discussion or you find a topic that does interest you. That goes for everyone, not just you.

[Tazzmission]

SalsaDMA wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

like i said again the ftc will laugh and say get out because real world issues are in fact more important

I find your obsessed need to try and ridicule people disturbing, tbh.

Are you afraid of something since you feel a need to make personal attacks on these people with this frequency?

consider yourself luckly that the boards have rules otherwise i wouldnt hold back of really expressing on how i feel on you spoiled brats

[SalsaDMA]

AJRimmsey wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

like i said again the ftc will laugh and say get out because real world issues are in fact more important

I find your obsessed need to try and ridicule people disturbing, tbh.

Are you afraid of something since you feel a need to make personal attacks on these people with this frequency?

I find your obsessive need to try and ridicule people disturbing, tbh.

Are you also afraid of something since you feel a need to make personal attacks on these people with this frequency?

Poor effort.

By all means, do give an explenation why you think it is alright to try and act as the school yard bully when people voice concerns they have about being mislead by companies wanting to sell them products.

[SweetJeeba]

I think it funny and rediculouse people are so bent out of shape about it. The nose in the air just reinforces the insecure nerd stereotype that surrounds game bloggers.

Seriously, this is funny. If you got pissed or your first reaction was this is so dumb you need to get a life.

[Tazzmission]

also how is this not idiotic?


woman sues drive director for misleading trailer

congrats on making the justice system a joke vocal crowd


http://www.guardian....s-drive-trailer

Modifié par Tazzmission, 18 mars 2012 - 11:50 .

[SalsaDMA]

BlahDog wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

BlahDog wrote...

1) It's a video game
2) There's no case
   >ME3 did have varying endings (not completely different but different)
   >Your choices do actually matter in ME3 just not in the end

1) irrelevant. It's a product like any other product.

2) that is for the FTC to figure out, not you.

1) It's hard to take a case such as this seriously. An actual case would be if instead of getting a cancer-curing drug, you got advil
2) Well, I just did their work for them. Where's my money?

1) hot coffee. Need I say more?

2) pftft

[AJRimmsey]

Scoob wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

like i said again the ftc will laugh and say get out because real world issues are in fact more important

I find your obsessed need to try and ridicule people disturbing, tbh.

Are you afraid of something since you feel a need to make personal attacks on these people with this frequency?

I find your obsessive need to try and ridicule people disturbing, tbh.

Are you also afraid of something since you feel a need to make personal attacks on these people with this frequency?

Alright everyone calm down. Either you make valid arguments and add to the discussion or you find a topic that does interest you. That goes for everyone, not just you.

that was neither a valid arguement or added to the discussion.

do as you say and not as you order us to do

[RoboticWater]

SalsaDMA wrote...
1) hot coffee. Need I say more?

2) pftft

1) Maybe
2) I still want my money

Modifié par BlahDog, 18 mars 2012 - 11:53 .

[Farbautisonn]

AJRimmsey wrote...
Are you also afraid of something since you feel a need to make personal attacks on these people with this frequency?

- Because you dont right? 

[Scoob]

BlahDog wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...
1) hot coffee. Need I say more?

2) pftft

1) Maybe
2) I still want my money

Well the Hot Coffee debacle was quite different as it was leftover code that was obtained through non-conventional means (aka methods other than just playing the game). This....well whether you agree with the complaint or not, is different.

Modifié par Scoob, 18 mars 2012 - 11:55 .