Amanthor wrote...
Cry, dear god did i cry.
this
Did you laugh or cry when you saw this?
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Reptilian Rob
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#201
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 05:05
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#202
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 05:06
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What is this? I don't even.... ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME?!
#203
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 05:09
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LMAO "END OF FIRST MATRIX"
#206
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 05:25
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"End of First Matrix"
And that, my disappointed comrades, is why video games are still not considered art by the mainstream. Because "writers" like Walters literally *write down* what ideas they plan on zoinking from other IP. The Matrix sucked, but it was their own ideas at least. Games will never be seen as anything more than poor timewasters thanks to that piece of paper, and ones just like it. Much could be said about his awful choice of ripoff, but it's the simple fact that it IS a ripoff that is the most disappointing. I'm sure alot of projects take inspiration from other sources, and say, "We wanna do something kinda like Star Wars: A New Hope". But ultimately they don't stick too close to that because ripping off someone else's ideas makes you look like an idiot. And yet.....end of Matrix, here we are.
He should be embarassed by this. "Lots of speculation from everyone" has morphed into "How did this man get a job?"
And that, my disappointed comrades, is why video games are still not considered art by the mainstream. Because "writers" like Walters literally *write down* what ideas they plan on zoinking from other IP. The Matrix sucked, but it was their own ideas at least. Games will never be seen as anything more than poor timewasters thanks to that piece of paper, and ones just like it. Much could be said about his awful choice of ripoff, but it's the simple fact that it IS a ripoff that is the most disappointing. I'm sure alot of projects take inspiration from other sources, and say, "We wanna do something kinda like Star Wars: A New Hope". But ultimately they don't stick too close to that because ripping off someone else's ideas makes you look like an idiot. And yet.....end of Matrix, here we are.
He should be embarassed by this. "Lots of speculation from everyone" has morphed into "How did this man get a job?"
#207
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 05:37
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I think we are missing a larger point here.
The problem isn't that this now-infamous piece of loose-leaf paper has some disorganized and not fully developed thoughts scrawled on it. I would actually be stunned if the brainstorming notes didn't look like this or even worse.
The real issue is that there seems to have been very little refinement of the ideas between a free-for-all brainstorming session and the final script. This is in keeping with some other pieces of information reported in the "Final Hours" documentary, specifically that they were overhauling and re-writing everything as late as November/December of last year. If they needed to slap together an ending held together with duct tape and bailing twine at the last second they were bound to overlook some of the larger plot holes in the ending.
Writing is always chaotic at first. You just need to edit and refine your ideas along the way so the audience's final thought isn't "What is Garrus doing on the Normandy and is he going to starve to death on that planet?"
The problem isn't that this now-infamous piece of loose-leaf paper has some disorganized and not fully developed thoughts scrawled on it. I would actually be stunned if the brainstorming notes didn't look like this or even worse.
The real issue is that there seems to have been very little refinement of the ideas between a free-for-all brainstorming session and the final script. This is in keeping with some other pieces of information reported in the "Final Hours" documentary, specifically that they were overhauling and re-writing everything as late as November/December of last year. If they needed to slap together an ending held together with duct tape and bailing twine at the last second they were bound to overlook some of the larger plot holes in the ending.
Writing is always chaotic at first. You just need to edit and refine your ideas along the way so the audience's final thought isn't "What is Garrus doing on the Normandy and is he going to starve to death on that planet?"
#208
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 05:43
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Lots of speculation.... go to hell. Yeah, it's a brainstorming piece of paper - ok I can live with that. But that alone - lost any respect I had up to this point. Was willing to listen to BW and what they have to say, but this..... You disgust me.
#209
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 07:00
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Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
LMAO "END OF FIRST MATRIX"
nice avatar...lmao
Modifié par foundthisway, 19 mars 2012 - 07:01 .
#210
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:50
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yours too LOLfoundthisway wrote...
Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...
LMAO "END OF FIRST MATRIX"
nice avatar...lmao
#211
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:53
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yahtzo wrote...
Wait that's real?
More real that ME3 ending, I'm afraid.
#212
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:53
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Neither laughed or cried.
It made me so, so, angry.
Like, all caps rage angry.
It made me so, so, angry.
Like, all caps rage angry.
#213
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:53
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Anyone else think that this is the real reason Drew quit?
I reckon he saw what a piece of Sh$% they'd turned his vision into and started to despair.
I reckon he saw what a piece of Sh$% they'd turned his vision into and started to despair.
#214
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:54
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Yeah it was pretty horrible to see it, well if your a bioware fan.....yeah...
#217
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:56
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BluKardinal wrote...
I think we are missing a larger point here.
The problem isn't that this now-infamous piece of loose-leaf paper has some disorganized and not fully developed thoughts scrawled on it. I would actually be stunned if the brainstorming notes didn't look like this or even worse.
The real issue is that there seems to have been very little refinement of the ideas between a free-for-all brainstorming session and the final script. This is in keeping with some other pieces of information reported in the "Final Hours" documentary, specifically that they were overhauling and re-writing everything as late as November/December of last year. If they needed to slap together an ending held together with duct tape and bailing twine at the last second they were bound to overlook some of the larger plot holes in the ending.
Writing is always chaotic at first. You just need to edit and refine your ideas along the way so the audience's final thought isn't "What is Garrus doing on the Normandy and is he going to starve to death on that planet?"
Not to mention there is a distinct lack of any mention of our decisions having any impact whatsoever.
#218
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:56
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Sort of wanted to quit getting my master's degree in creative writing in favor of just drinking all the time.
#219
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 11:00
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I laughed.
A bitter, miserable, angry laugh, but laughter all the same.
The fact that this scrap piece of paper, this unrefined, completely unthought out scrap of paper is the most coherent version of the ending is madness. The complete detachment from what the fanbase would obviously want and enjoy is just unbelievable.
A bitter, miserable, angry laugh, but laughter all the same.
The fact that this scrap piece of paper, this unrefined, completely unthought out scrap of paper is the most coherent version of the ending is madness. The complete detachment from what the fanbase would obviously want and enjoy is just unbelievable.
#220
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 11:04
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This...this is the first time I see this.
HOLD UP....
Are you guys saying....these are actual notes? As in...real life?
HOLD UP....
Are you guys saying....these are actual notes? As in...real life?
#221
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 11:06
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I cried then loughed and then suddelny my keyboard
was in pieces...
was in pieces...
#222
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 11:11
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Its just a brain storming, no final work. Still you can see how all things worked out in the game which are on this paper. "Lots of speculation" is just the tip of the iceberg...shinobi602 wrote...
This...this is the first time I see this.
HOLD UP....
Are you guys saying....these are actual notes? As in...real life?
Its old though, was on these forums a few days ago. This picture will be deleted here soon, cause its copyright of an app.
Modifié par Srefanius, 19 mars 2012 - 11:12 .
#224
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 11:18
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Srefanius wrote...
Its just a brain storming, no final work. Still you can see how all things worked out in the game which are on this paper. "Lots of speculation" is just the tip of the iceberg...shinobi602 wrote...
This...this is the first time I see this.
HOLD UP....
Are you guys saying....these are actual notes? As in...real life?
Its old though, was on these forums a few days ago. This picture will be deleted here soon, cause its copyright of an app.
I...oh God....
Why Bioware. You guys used to be incredible
#225
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 11:19
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I think I raged pretty hard. Then I thought it was a lie. Now it just makes me laugh, because I'm tired of crying.
