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[TJX2045]

 The DA2 ending didn't bother me.  The sudden scapegoat used for the climax kind of did but wasn't enough to turn me off of Bioware games.

Mass Effect 3, though, has made me wary of what games I buy from them in the future.  I originally planned to wait a week for the collector's edition of ME3 to be put on shelves for people who didn't pick up their preorders...now...I'm glad I didn't.  LOL.  Still would've been nice to have the metal case and all, but then I'd be even more frustrated about hanging over a cliff trying to figure out what happened to everyone.

[Battalion]

Brahlis wrote...

You tell me.

Wow

[SLPr0]

The question is not, do we trust BioWare, the question is, do EA's share holders trust EA.

Cause we're just the return on investment. Long as the investment return is guaranteed, it doesn't matter what we think.

So...refer to the first link in my signature. It is their post release profit model. Don't be a dollar sign.

[wordson]

my trust has been shaken.. before me3, I'd be willing to buy just about anything they told me to.. but now, depending on whether or not they fix the ending, I just might not buy anything from them again.

[lyssalu]

no

[Empiro3]

In the past yes, with games like BG2 and NWN, they proved that they were willing to go the extra mile.

Not anymore.

[LegendaryBlade]

The Angry One wrote...

Midarenkov wrote...

No, they have broken faith. This has nothing to do with Dragon Age 2 though, that was a flawed but fun game (to me!). At the moment, if the head dev were to call the sky blue, I'd have to get a second opinion.

Ye gods sometimes I think I'm the only one who feels that way about DA2, the way some people go on you'd think it was a game created by Satan specifically to murder kittens and push pensioners in front of buses.

To be fair, I think DA2 would of gotten a lot less hate if it...wasn't called Dragonage 2. Origins fans expected a sequel to Origins and didn't get that, and then Bioware response came as such great quotes like "Oldschool rpgs like that are no longer relevent" and "We don't really plan to make any more games with a system similar to Origins" I think it's very understandable why people were mad.

I think the game was medeocre, fine, but medeocre. My problem with DA2 is that it's a massive dissapointment to me as a huge DA:O fan.

[SandTrout]

To be frank, I have no reason to trust them any more.

My trust with a company is always contingent on continued honesty on their part. If they want my money, they have to be very certain to keep their promises.

[Tygur]

I will have to look carefully and judge reactions and valid reviews before I buy any more of their products. Heck, I even liked DA2 and played TOR a ton. What they did here is almost unforgivable. To invest so much time in a story only to have it come crashing down without real resolution. I'm not angry at them, more like disappointed, but it seems since nobody called them out on the ending when they were thinking it up, or they have some other stunt involved for it, I will have to wait and see instead of blindly pre-ordering. Its a shame, before this, I would have mailed them my wallet, now I wouldn't even buy DLC unless its some sort of fix for this disaster.

[JeanLuc Awesome]

As Joker puts it; ""I don't trust anyone who makes more than I do."

[JPN17]

Nope. Looking back at all the quotes from Bioware pre ME3 release and realizing just how false they are I really have no reason to believe anything they say. Also that whole we didn't cut out the Prothean DLC even though the final hours app pretty much proved that they lied about that as well.

But this goes beyond ME3 for me. I was extremely disappointed about how Bioware ruined Revan's story from KOTOR (and they also ruined KOTOR2 as well although BIoware didn't develop that game) so they could produce the MMO. Most people didn't seem to have a problem with that, but I loved KOTOR and I was appalled at how they "resolved" Revan's and the Exile's story. To me all these things indicate that Bioware is a shell of the company they used to be. Seems like it pretty much all went downhill after they were purchased by EA.

[the red boon]

I trust them.
I'm using bioware logic.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I don't trust anyone who makes more than I do. I learned that from Joker. I remain a fan of their overall work. But I'll wait until the reviews are out on their next title before I purchase. I'm talking about the reviews on the board, not the magazine reviews.

[Midarenkov]

LegendaryBlade wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Midarenkov wrote...

No, they have broken faith. This has nothing to do with Dragon Age 2 though, that was a flawed but fun game (to me!). At the moment, if the head dev were to call the sky blue, I'd have to get a second opinion.

Ye gods sometimes I think I'm the only one who feels that way about DA2, the way some people go on you'd think it was a game created by Satan specifically to murder kittens and push pensioners in front of buses.

To be fair, I think DA2 would of gotten a lot less hate if it...wasn't called Dragonage 2. Origins fans expected a sequel to Origins and didn't get that, and then Bioware response came as such great quotes like "Oldschool rpgs like that are no longer relevent" and "We don't really plan to make any more games with a system similar to Origins" I think it's very understandable why people were mad.

I think the game was medeocre, fine, but medeocre. My problem with DA2 is that it's a massive dissapointment to me as a huge DA:O fan.

I sort of think you are right, it just seems to me that most of the DA:O fans expected DA 2.0 instead of DA 2. That, and of course the stupid stuff, like copy + paste mine shafts, etc etc.

[Narsilsword]

Ending aside, there was so much that frustrated me as a consumer and a fan before, during and after the release of ME3. I'm not buying another game from them if it is handled in a similar fashion

[Aaleel]

I don't know if trust is the best word to describe my feelings. They've taken their games in a direction that really doesn't suit me. More focus on streamlined action, and more casual gaming.

But as for 'trust', the blatant and bold face lies they told before the games release were disturbing. There was one thread where someone listed them all, and seeing them all together was really sickening.

[Harbinger.Chargin.Mai.Lazor]

Ratham wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

You forgot TORtanic.

Yes.. the game with 1.7 million subs is really sinking fast.

This is the end of Bioware as we know it !

/sarcasm

Most of those are people on the free month or what ever I think, or they're just coming off of it. I'm not saying SWTOR is bad or a failure, but I also don't think that the game is suited to keep players drawn to the game for long unless it becomes free. The story and stuff is interesting. But the endgame as far as I could see was pretty easy. Not to mention many of the worlds are very linear and there's not a lot of exploring. Honestly SWTOR was nothing I wanted it to be. I knew that from the get go, and for me it will never live up to SWG. 

[Remus A]

Yea I do.

[VendettaI154]

After the lies about how our choices matter? Not really, no.

[Fjordgnu]

Blindly? No. I fully expect the next Dragon Age, and whatever else BioWare comes up with, to turn out good. I like to think ME3's ending is the exception ( possibly even that they'll learn something for it, and put more work into their next game ) ... but, even if it's based on principle alone, I'm not letting myself be swept up by the hype of the next game, and I'll go in with considerably lower expectations.

It's not like I'm going to boycott all their future games, though. As a gamer with too much time on my hands, I can't afford to pass up decent games on general principle. I'm already scraping the bottom of the gaming barrel.

[Amagoi]

Hold on. Just let me dig up an old image that I think works for this and goes with my avie.

Modifié par Amagoi, 19 mars 2012 - 02:21 .

[Vaktathi]

 Not gonna lie. Before March 10 when I beat ME3, I thought Bioware really couldn't do too much (beyond the odd minor oversight/technical glitch) wrong. 

My faith in Bioware as a capable developer has been shaken, particularly following this "final hours" App release. They did alot of cool stuff, but they've really seemed to lose touch with what they are doing and who their customers are, at least with the guys in charge of ME development. 

Fixing the ending would go quite a long way towards repairing that relationship, leaving it as will likely leave it permanently, perhaps fatally, damaged. Either way, I won't be pre-ordered a Bioware game for a while, I'll definitely be waiting for people to beat it and get some *real* user reviews a week or two later first. 


That said, this whole affair has also been rather enlightening as to the nature of game media and reviews. Pretty much every major gaming outlet gave ME3 stellar reviews without once mentioning anything about how the ending could possibly leave people disappointed, to the contrary, every single one thought the ending to be spectacular. This would seem to be at odds with the overwhelmingly *vast* majority of fan reaction. The following mainstream media ragging on those who found issue with the ending didn't help.

That certainly has been interesting. 

[Ender99]

No. They lied to me. They can regain my trust by correcting their mistake, but until then it's gone.

[Kyle]

I trust them completely, though, I think the only Bioware games I have bought are ME1, ME2, and ME3.

[Fat Head]

Nykara wrote...

YES - I trust Bioware
YES - I trust that this was all intended from the begining
YES - I believe something truely epic in keeping with mass effect and true bioware form is coming our way.

Hold the Line.

This.

But with the addition that IF nothing changes, and this is in fact the final ending.......my trust will be broken and I am done.