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[Crusina]

VendettaI154 wrote...

After the lies about how our choices matter? Not really, no.

See, I don't get that logic. Your choices do matter, you don't get a truce between the geth or quarians without those choices for example. The entire game is the conclusion of all those choices, up until the end where the final decision is made.

If you don't choose wisely, you'll end up annhilalting everything. Not preparing is a choice you make, making bad choices is a chose you make.

I don't understand how the ending takes away those choices. I mean, I don't like the endings as is, but its not as if my choices didn't matter.

[GhostlyMaiden]

I never buy games on company name. The game itself has to be appealing. I've bought loads of games just based on what I read in an instruction booklet at EB Games.

Modifié par GhostlyMaiden, 19 mars 2012 - 02:26 .

[RedShft]

 I love it when people get so dramatic! It's very amusing.

Do i trust BioWare? Yes.

[deathscythe517]

Trusting any corporation is idiotic, same goes for governments.

[JoeLaTurkeyII]

Deception was a massive alarm bell. We shouldn't have been so surprised about these endings after that.

[DadeLeviathan]

Do I trust them? Yes. Do I still trust Casey and Mac? Not so much.

[Gnaeus.Silvanus]

I know this day would come and right now I'm hesitant to buy anything anymore with a label that says, "Made by Bioware, Published by EA." Not only because of the day one From Ashes rip-off but the way long-time players of the game have been treated with the rushed bad endings.

[BadlyBrowned]

I was already weary after DA2, but I figured, they can't possibly screw up ME3 right? Er.....

[Midarenkov]

JoeLaTurkeyII wrote...

Deception was a massive alarm bell. We shouldn't have been so surprised about these endings after that.

Yeah, ME3 puts Deception in a totally different light. Did they ever get around to "fixing" it as they said? (Whatever fixing a book actually means).

[cyrrant]

Retake Mass Effect is here because we know that Bioware can make a better ending. We've seen it with our own eyes. Trust doesn't factor into this, because we know it to be true.

Our Choices Should Matter - Hold the Line

[Lazarus Cricket]

no.

[pharsti]

Trust and Bioware do not belong in the same sentence unless that sentence is negative.

At least now.

Keep in mind, this is my take on the situation, not saying you arent allowed to trust them.

And we should ALL have seen it coming with Deception, it was like the beacon Shepard saw, a signal, we just couldnt understand it.

Modifié par pharsti, 19 mars 2012 - 02:28 .

[cinderburster]

The Angry One wrote...

Midarenkov wrote...

No, they have broken faith. This has nothing to do with Dragon Age 2 though, that was a flawed but fun game (to me!). At the moment, if the head dev were to call the sky blue, I'd have to get a second opinion.

Ye gods sometimes I think I'm the only one who feels that way about DA2, the way some people go on you'd think it was a game created by Satan specifically to murder kittens and push pensioners in front of buses.

You mean it wasn't?  What'd I play it for, then?



In response to the original post: I don't know about trust, but I still have faith in the company.  Very cautious faith.

Modifié par cinderburster, 19 mars 2012 - 02:28 .

[Lancane]

Bioware as a whole? Eh, maybe a little. The development team that created Mass Effect 3? Not really, they could change that...but as for at the moment? 

Modifié par Lancane, 19 mars 2012 - 02:29 .

[Wowlock]

Personally ? I never put my trust on ANY companies. They are in the business for profit, sure they might be passionate about their work but without the profits , they wouldn't shell out games for free.

Don't get me wrong, I ''supported'' Bioware during these late times but the ''influence'' of EA started to show itself more and more with DLC tactics, somehow seemed rushed products and overall Quality/Price rating.

And when I heard the Multiplayer aspect... I wasn't really bothered but I knew EA would going to use it to milk money from the MP DLC packs etc.... as they are planning already .

Soo do I trust new ''EAnized'' Bioware ? No and I will be quite wary before buying their products again. Do I enjoy doing this ? No because that means leaving a company I enjoyed so much for so long but one can only take so much BS and backstabbing. If a company starts to see me as a walking wallet rather than a loyal fan, that means it is time for me to move on to the next company who didn't get to that phase yet.

I know with the ''business'' strategy is based on profits and milking the fans but I won't be the one oiling their cranks. This is just one of the cases and so far one of the most vocal ones. I hope this will show that customers and fans just won't sit and take Corporations' **** without voicing their displeasure. Only worse thing you can do is just shutting up and letting them screw you over and over.

So no, currenly I don't have much trust for the corporations and I doubt I ever will after events like this.

[SealKudos]

deathscythe517 wrote...

Trusting any corporation is idiotic, same goes for governments.

Yep.  That about sums it up.

EA is at the top of my ****-list.  Activision follows closely.  But they are publishers - they live on making money, they could care less about us.  I can only feel sorry for what BioWare has become as a result, but I cannot blame them entirely.

[ticklefist]

The Angry One wrote...

Midarenkov wrote...

No, they have broken faith. This has nothing to do with Dragon Age 2 though, that was a flawed but fun game (to me!). At the moment, if the head dev were to call the sky blue, I'd have to get a second opinion.

Ye gods sometimes I think I'm the only one who feels that way about DA2, the way some people go on you'd think it was a game created by Satan specifically to murder kittens and push pensioners in front of buses.

Throw me in that group. I liked DA2. Most criticisms are valid but there really is a good game underneath those problems.

[Blackmind1]

 Of course! So they balls'd up an ending through human error, big deal. The other 99% is awesome. Evangelion originally had a bad ending, but I still have very, very fond memories of the series as a whole.

>Dat Reaper battle on Rannoch
>Dat suspense as it gets closer and closer!

"THIS ISN'T A SIGNAL TOWER! IT'S A REAL, LIVE REAPER!"

I admit that I would buy some kind of expansion pack to further push the ending, though. Maybe even a "Director's Cut", along the lines of Fable: The Lost Chapters.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fable_(video_game)#Fable:_The_Lost_Chapters

The Lost Chapters[/i] features all the content found in the original Fable[/i], as well as additional new content such as new monsters, weapons, alignment based spells, items, armor, towns, buildings, and expressions, as well as the ability to give children objects. The story receives further augmentation in the form of nine new areas and sixteen additional quests. Characters such as Briar Rose and Scythe, who played only minor roles in the original game, are now given more importance and are included in certain main and side quests. Other character-based augmentations include the antagonist, Jack of Blades' voice sounding deeper, harsher and more demonic; and being able to uncover (and resolve) the murder mystery behind Lady Grey's sister. 

Modifié par Blackmind1, 19 mars 2012 - 02:31 .

[streamlock]

Well, I trusted them with my time and money when I purchased the product. You can argue all you want about it, but everytime you make a purchase you do that in some capacity with any product.

Do I trust them to do right by my current purchase? Or future purchases? That all depends on where they go from here.

I do know this is probably the last time I ever actually preorder any entertainment product again. So in that respect, they have lost my blind trust.

[Midarenkov]

cinderburster wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Midarenkov wrote...

No, they have broken faith. This has nothing to do with Dragon Age 2 though, that was a flawed but fun game (to me!). At the moment, if the head dev were to call the sky blue, I'd have to get a second opinion.

Ye gods sometimes I think I'm the only one who feels that way about DA2, the way some people go on you'd think it was a game created by Satan specifically to murder kittens and push pensioners in front of buses.

You mean it wasn't?  What'd I play it for, then?


(...)

edit: oops forgot to put in my response. Which is " XD". So, there.

Modifié par Midarenkov, 19 mars 2012 - 02:36 .

[KONG33]

Yeah They make some great games. I wont be at any midnight releases for them anymore. That was only for Mass Effect 3 anyway. I'll wait to see a user review. Especially if the game is a series ending. lol
Hold the line.

[ToJKa1]

Trust? I buy their games, i'm not married to them.

[tornblade]

I won't say that I don't trust Bioware anymore - like Joker I don't trust anyone that gets paid more then me. But, this has affected my loyalty to their brand. I've plabeen a Bioware fanboy since Baldur's Gate 1. Up until now (even with DA 2 and TOR) I've still been a fanboy. Now? Not so much. If it's chalked up to bad writing, I'm highly dissapointed. If it's chalked up to an epic troll by Bioware saying "Haha, here's your 'real' ending." then that means they messed with my head on a pretty major scale. Either way, they've lost one more fanboy. Maybe not that big a deal to them or everyone else, but it is to me.

[MPSai]

Not at the moment. They already made alot of bad decisions with Dragon Age (none of them as bad as the ME3 ending. I'm serious) but I figured DA is the B team. I was confident after ME2 that I could count on Mass Effect to always be good.


....*sob*

[Blackmind1]

tornblade wrote...

I won't say that I don't trust Bioware anymore - like Joker I don't trust anyone that gets paid more then me. But, this has affected my loyalty to their brand. I've plabeen a Bioware fanboy since Baldur's Gate 1. Up until now (even with DA 2 and TOR) I've still been a fanboy. Now? Not so much. If it's chalked up to bad writing, I'm highly dissapointed. If it's chalked up to an epic troll by Bioware saying "Haha, here's your 'real' ending." then that means they messed with my head on a pretty major scale. Either way, they've lost one more fanboy. Maybe not that big a deal to them or everyone else, but it is to me.

>I've been a fanboy since BG
>Loved everything up until the flawed ending of a trilogy
>They've lost my eternal trust

You're quite the finnicky one, aren't you?