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[KotorEffect3]

These threads always pop up after a new game comes out. I bet some of the same people crying doom for bioware now were doing it ten years ago.

[devSin]

I trust Mike and David, without question.

This team, not so much.

[Karrie788]

I trust them on the ME3 endings issue.

But the company that created the Baldur's Gate series is long gone in my mind.

[wesr]

i'll read spoilers, i use strategy guides so they don't bother me.

[rvgifford]

Sorry, no I do not. And neither do I any longer trust any of the review sites that get ad money from EA. Even if the ending fiasco is resolved to my personal satisfaction, I'll still only buy their games after reading the fan reviews, and they've been out at least a few weeks if not longer. DA2 and now ME3. Sour. Taste. Mouth.

[Xerorei]

shurikenmanta wrote...

Ryoten wrote...

No. Anyone who likes dragon age 2 has terrible taste in games. ME3 ending ruins the trilogy.

Anyone who likes Pepsi has terrible taste in drinks.

Anyone who likes Liara has terrible taste in women.

Anyone who likes dubstep has terrible taste in music.

Seeing a pattern here, folks?

Anyone who likes dubstep DOES have terrible taste in music, at least US dubstep not Uk Dubstep.
I've met people who honestly and truly believe Dubstep did not come from DnB and DnB didn't come from Jungle.
Also met people who will belligerently tell you that House music was not what started it all.  <_<

As for the OP, i love jade empire, I still play it, if right now BioWare announced Jade Empire 2 I'd go all "oh hell yeah!" for a few seconds then DA 2, ME 3, and the horrible job that is SWTOR ( I bought all 3, I got ripped), would pop into my head and I'd probably go "nah, time to go back to city of heroes".

Which is another point, all the mmorpgs I've played, including the big name ones, and I go back to CoH, because by now the  Paragon team has proven they aren't complete corporate jackasses and can come up with really cool things.

Modifié par Xerorei, 19 mars 2012 - 03:10 .

[gunslinger_ruiz]

I trust bioware to make games I like and DLC if that's what you mean. If you mean trusting them to...idk, housesit for me? Maybe, they seem like pretty cool neighbors. *ducks*

[effortname]

Nooooope.

[TransientNomad]

Loved Bioware ever since Baldur's Gate, but between the "Just alright" Dragon Age 2 and this Mass Effect 3 ending debacle, I longer trust them. I won't be preordering anything else from them, nor regard them in any other fashion than just another developer. At best, I will think of them as a once great, once talented developer of some of my favorite games that has since lost their luster, respect for fans, their good judgement, and infallible talent.

Hold the line.

[ediskrad327]

no, but they can still regain my trust

Modifié par ediskrad327, 19 mars 2012 - 03:13 .

[ToJKa1]

Ryoten wrote...

ME3 ending ruins the trilogy.

Not for me it didn't. I finished it third time today, and (almost) immediatly started with ME1 again. Red ending this time. I liked that the most. Well, the one part that was different from the others

[AwesomeDudex64]

 Well it depends how Mass Effect 3 turns out.

[tornblade]

Blackmind1 wrote...

>I've been a fanboy since BG
>Loved everything up until the flawed ending of a trilogy
>They've lost my eternal trust

You're quite the finnicky one, aren't you?

Nope. But ending what was their crowning achievement (in my own eyes) as horribly as they did was the final straw. I could comment on the list of issues that I had with ToR or DA2 (as many have already done) but chose not to - the question wasn't *why* but whether I trust them or not. Which I already stated that I've never "trusted" any company in the sense that it's hinted at. But my fanboyism has died. I've learned, and will use more judgement in the future with Bioware as I have done with every other game. No more pre-orders. I'm also going to make sure I do not get attached to another game of theirs as I have with Mass Effect. That in itself is an anomaly though, in over 25 years of gaming I've never become this attached to characters in a game. Close, but not quite.

Since you want to pick apart a single statement made to make it look like I'm just up and jumping ship based off 10 minutes of gameplay, that's fine. You'd do that regardless of what I say.

[KotorEffect3]

AwesomeDudex64 wrote...

 Well it depends how Mass Effect 3 turns out.

Mass Effect 3 turned out fine, a bad ending doesn't change that.

[tornblade]

avmf8 wrote...


Is it wrong I would actually buy a game about killing kittens and pushing old people in front of busses?

I know I would.

[shepisavanguardgetoverit]

The Angry One wrote...

Let me be clear on one thing, my utter and complete lack of faith in BioWare is due to ME3's end and ME3's end alone.
They chose to sacrifice the end of a 5 year saga with all of our hopes and dreams to half-assery and pretentiousness.

I defended them on DA2 which all in all isn't that bad, I defended them on TOR.
They have nothing to do with this.

Edit: Redundancy is bad, perhaps sleep isn't as overrated as I believe.

I agree with Angry on this.  I also vehemently defended bioware for DA2 and TOR, now with this mess that is the ME3 endings my faith and loyalty in bioware is reaching its limit.  I will see what the ME3 DLC's will do to fix this problem before I write them off completly, but the phrase not happy jan really applies here. 

And on the sleep note, I have since found this out myself.  It seems if you don't sleep, you get tired.  Funny that
And when you get tired, you do weird stuff.  Kinda like your drunk almost. 

[RazorrX]

My faith in Bioware is very shaken. I was once firmly a fanboy, ever since Baldurs Gate. With the questionable bait and switch (to me) between DA:O and DA2 - which I had preordered based upon DA:O, and now the really lame ending of ME3 that once again goes against everything they had promised prior to release, I trust them about as much as a starving fat guy in a donut shop.

[Raxxman]

I don't think any game company is worthy of blind trust.

But I was to blindly trust a company it would be Blizzard, Valve and Bungie. Even though I don't like all their games.

[Bourne Endeavor]

Crusina wrote...

VendettaI154 wrote...

After the lies about how our choices matter? Not really, no.

See, I don't get that logic. Your choices do matter, you don't get a truce between the geth or quarians without those choices for example. The entire game is the conclusion of all those choices, up until the end where the final decision is made.

If you don't choose wisely, you'll end up annhilalting everything. Not preparing is a choice you make, making bad choices is a chose you make.

I don't understand how the ending takes away those choices. I mean, I don't like the endings as is, but its not as if my choices didn't matter.

Nope, your choices all boil down to three pretty colored explosions with a cinematic clip that is 98% identical otherwise. Besides, you can achieve the best ending by tossing a few hours into Multiplayer. Your choices don't mean a damn thing.

[PantheraOnca]

i plan to continue paying for their goods and/or services.

[Menalaos1971]

FubarCFSnafu wrote...
I took a break from COD MW

Battlefield 3 is better multiplayer.

And if Bioware steps up and say, "Yes, we completely blew it with the ending, and the next DLC we release will fix all of it", and then they follow through like Bethesda did so well with Fallout 3, then I can forgive them.

I'll still always be upset about how badly they blew this one, but I can forgive them if they fix it and don't do it again.

If they want to make dark, tragic games make sure to put that in the freak'n marketing campaign.

[Newl0w]

 I am curious if anyone is planning on buying Dragon Age 3 now.

I really liked the Dragon Age: Origins universe and luckily even though Dragon Age 2 was awful it did not mess with the established canon. Hell, it fleshed out Qunari really well.

But if this is what Bioware considers to be an acceptable ending to an amazing trilogy.... I'd rather not know what they have in store for Thedas.

[HectorB]

I still do. I'll keep buying games from them for years to come! 

Modifié par HectorB, 19 mars 2012 - 03:25 .

[Yttrian]

No.

Why trust a company that makes it blatantly obvious that the soul is gone, the fans don't matter and the franchise is a cashcow?

[Letator]

I trust there are still enough competent employees to make a decent game in the future.

But no way I'm pre-ordering the next Bioware game. After playing the "finished" product myself and discovering Bioware's broken promises, I can't take their official statements seriously until we have results for ourselves. I'll also be waiting for many more player reviews after seeing many of the professional critics praising the ending's utter failure to convey intent and understanding as a triumph of art.

Modifié par Letator, 19 mars 2012 - 05:30 .