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[novaseeker]

Companies don't deserve trust or loyalty. It should always be about what they are providing, what you want, and what is the price. Don't be a stooge to corporate marketers/"The Man".

[kramerfan86]

Not really, Im sure the games will still be solid but the big appeal of Mass Effect was always the story, and now the trust is gone in that regard. Have little interest in investing financially and emotionally in any future products from them.

[tekkaman fear]

I only gave the benefit of the doubt to 2 companies. Bioware and Rockstar. Now I'm down to Rockstar.

[Scalpels]

I began losing confidence in Bioware around the time ME2 was released. The way many decisions from ME1 didn't carry over as fully as I had been hinted at. The change in tone from hard sci-fi to more actiony Sci-Fi. The oversimplification of the powers. Not to say it was a bad game. It was very good. It just wasn't Bioware good.

Dragon Age: Origin's day one DLC was annoying. It chipped away at my confidence a bit more. But the game itself was excellent. I was ready to believe that ME2 was really just a temporary problem brought upon by being the middle child of the series.

Then Dragon Age 2 came out.

Now ME3 is 30 hrs of really great story telling. Sure the conversations are clipped shorter than the previous two games, but the fidelity is incredibly high. The last time I wept because of a video game was on the Alerai and ME3 delivers that three or more times. I have nothing, but high praise for the storytelling in ME3 up until Priority: Earth.

However, I am seeing a clear downward trend. Probably brought on by a need to meet deadlines that are too tight for this type of game.

I no longer have confidence in Bioware. Maybe I'll change my mind in the future, but for right now. I do not wish to purhcase anything else from them. So much potential wasted.

[starscreamerx31]

I used to live bioware. There was a time when you could walk into a game store and saw bioware's name on the box, with no prior knowledge of the title and you knew you got a whole lot of bang for the buck. Now those days seem long gone.

[thesilverlinedviking]

My relationship status with them changed to 'It's Complicated.'

[jarrettwold]

Remember guys it's been 12 days since release. I would love an alternate ending as well. But, it takes a few days for me to get everything done on my daily chores checklist:

"go to store, get milk, build crappy particle board bookshelf"

So to change, modify or provide something of such vast complexity in game development. It takes a bit more work. A lot of work in fact. So, at least give them a little bit longer to get everything figured out.

[MakeMineMako]

To answer the OP's question: Not Really.

They failed to deliver the product as advertised, thus destroying my consumer confidence in Bioware and EA.

[HeartRage]

Trust would imply it being personal on some level for me, but I don't see myself as anything but a consumer then a fan. If the next product they produce is good quality from other consumers then I will buy it, but the way it looks at the moment I will probably over look whatever it is they end up spitting out.

[Rohirrim]

I loved Baldur's Gate and the original Dragon Age. Dragon Age 2 was the first Bioware game I chose not to buy. The demo and lack of racial choice did that for me.

I only bought ME3 blindly (didn't read a single preview or any kind of spoiler) is that ME is my favourite video game franchise. After the ending (or lack thereof), I don't think I'll purchase any more Bioware games. I probably won't be able to resist anything having "Mass" and "Effect" in the title, but given the apparent destruction of the whole ME universe, that seems unlikely, anyway.

The times at which I associated Bioware with high quality is definitly in the past.

[Sparse]

I could kind of see why Dragon Age 2 was the way it was. They were changing to a new style to reduce costs and development time and didn't quite get it right. I think Mass Effect 3 is more of an issue because there is no real reason for it, they actually sat down and wrote that nonsense.

I probably won't pre-order anything from Bioware again and will wait for player reviews. I think the biggest issue on a trust aspect isn't with Bioware but with reviewers, most of them have basically just published the EA press release as their review which is even worse than usual.

[TheZanSnake]

I still trust them.

Despite the endings, ME3 was a brillaint and emotional gaming experience, which showed the potential it had, as well with the endings - which dissapointly, didn't reach the hights. I do agree that the marketing for the game was a little OTT, and they did lie - but i trust them enough to solve the problem with the endings.

Then again, i only got ME1+2+3

[QuarianHIV]

Even Satan doesn't trust BW.

[Yalision]

Not anymore. What a horrible company to betray the trust of passionate and devoted fans.

[KadivyaSky]

The Angry One wrote...

Midarenkov wrote...

No, they have broken faith. This has nothing to do with Dragon Age 2 though, that was a flawed but fun game (to me!). At the moment, if the head dev were to call the sky blue, I'd have to get a second opinion.

Ye gods sometimes I think I'm the only one who feels that way about DA2, the way some people go on you'd think it was a game created by Satan specifically to murder kittens and push pensioners in front of buses.

I enjoyed the DA2 story, but the gameplay wasn't nearly as good as the first game's gameplay, and redundant maps were annoying. Just different doors open. Still...I love Fenris forever. Gods that voice actor has a voice to melt me with every time, and the romance was so good. Anyway, you're not alone. The story was good to me. Just needed a lot more 'polish' gameplaywise. 

I was fine with Bioware up until ME3's ending. Now I question whether I'll even bother with a DA3 that might ruin THAT series for me entirely, as ME was ruined for me.

I do have SOME hope they might 'fix' the end but worry that they'll gouge/charge for whatever they do.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

I doubt it, its getting more and more likely everyday I won't buy another bioware game

[deimosmasque]

I still do. But then again even with my searching for spoilers every day, reading the forums every day I didn't buy into the hype given in interviews and twitter feeds so I went in just with practical knowledge rather than hype.

Wait, not entirely true. I went in with the hype that the endings were so soul-crushingly horrible that I'd never want to play Mass Effect, let alone another game, ever again. Instead while I don't adore the endings I didn't mind them and started a new ME1 play through the next day to play through all three games back to back.

[Cyph3rX]

DA2: redundant and bland
TOR: buggy as hell, yet they focus more on lolcontent than debugging and optimizing the cruddy game engine first
ME3:

yeah, i think ill wait to see user reviews first before buying another BW game.

[Ahms]

novaseeker wrote...

Companies don't deserve trust or loyalty. It should always be about what they are providing, what you want, and what is the price. Don't be a stooge to corporate marketers/"The Man".

This. So much.

The entire idea of corporate loyalty is beyond asinine. A company only cares about its profits, and a consumer should only care about a company's products/services. There is no special relationship between consumer and producer beyond a monetary one.

It's bizarre to me when people employ the concept of loyalty and introduce that into this kind of relationship. Imagine if your personal relationships with people were like the ones you have with corporate entities. How ****ed up would that be? You don't make friends with people because of the favours they can do for you or for what they have that you can use. You can, but then it's not a friendship, it's some kind of parasitic relationship (I believe we call those people "users" and "superficial/materialistic").

Even company employees shouldn't apply some noble sense of loyalty to something that considers them a replacable unit on a balance sheet with some investment/production value. I find it just LOL when you have that one guy at the office who's a total soldier for the company, loyal to the bitter end - when they fire his ass and give him a severance package that a homeless person would laugh at. Beyond their contract obligations and NDA agreements, any "loyalty" an employee provides is just air.

And the consumers show loyalty? God help us all.

Modifié par Ahms, 19 mars 2012 - 04:44 .

[Captain Jazz]

Trust a company? That's just silly.
I do still believe that Bioware make good games, if not perfect games, but I realise that they make those games in order to make money. Maybe the designers do it for the love of the narrative and the experience, and I'd be willing to trust some of those individuals, but companies don't get trust - trust is for people, and companies aren't people.

[Lunatic LK47]

Rogue Unit wrote...

Why would I trust a company that flat-out lies? Optional MP my ass.

Quoted for the Mother****ing truth.

[Ahms]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

Rogue Unit wrote...

Why would I trust a company that flat-out lies? Optional MP my ass.

Quoted for the Mother****ing truth.

Technically, it's not a lie. MP totally still is optional. You just can't get the "best" ending without it.

[VirtualSoldier27]

like joker said in ME2, "I dont trust anybody that makes more money than I do"

ME23 are my only experiences with Bioware, and if the ME3 ending doesnt change, they will be my last

[IronMadness]

All good writers of the old Bioware left. Not for nothing are gone .. I Dont Trust Bioware Never More.

End Of Line.

[LTKerr]

I don't trust them, not after DA2. I bought ME3 expecting the worst and they didn't disappoint me because that was what I get: the worst ending I could imagine. Right now I'm expecting an ending DLC in november or december, and it won't be for free. If that's not the case, well, I will trust them a little more.