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[Linus108]

Aweus wrote...

Linus108 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Why is it that any time anyone from Bioware says anything that seems to be kindhearted and in good spirits, we all go "Dah! Bioware is still the company we love. Let's all cut them some slack"? Jessica is just a PR person. Their entire job is SPIN, ya knuckleheads.

Exactly. As I said, people need to break their view that BioWare is this friendly company that cares so much about us and might change the ending becaue they like to listen to us.

Instead focus on the fact that they promised us a product, advertised it a certain way, then didn't deliver that product when we paid for it. We are being responsible consumers by calling them out on their bull****.

Regardless if Jessica is nice or not, she's just doing her job. 

Becouse I believe that if someone wants something from me and handles it correctly he may have a chance to get it. If I will get an angry brat slamming at my door I will just call the cops instead. Of course we as customers also have patience and there is a limit but please do not be outright dismissive from the start. We need to show some token of good will if we expect them to do the same. Just keep holding the line guys.

I never said people should get angry.

But stop treating BioWare like some nice little company that loves you so much, that out of the kindness of their hearts they will eventually change it for you.

People need to focus on the issue here. You, a consumer, bought a product that was advertised as something it really wasn't. And now want a patch or DLC to fix this. It's not an unresonable demand, and in fact is your duty as a consumer to speak up.

My point is, people need to reaffirm the issue, and stand strong. Keep being loud and be heard. Don't back down. This does not = being a crazy angry person that is disrepsectful. But I see nothing wrong with boycotting their products (DLC, and other games) until they do right by you. 

Modifié par Linus108, 19 mars 2012 - 06:21 .

[AttaBoyTroy]

TheMerchantMan wrote...

Tietj wrote...

Jessica Merizan seems absolutely sincere about her concerns for fans. Maybe she's just extremely good at her job, but I always feel reassured by her support. Let's all calm down about this.

Thank you.

Let's retain some sanity here. We're acting like sharks with blood in the water. But Bioware isn't an enemy, we can't look at this relationship as adversarial, but one of mutual respect. Yes, they need to be afraid of what the consumers think, but they also need to be able to respect us.

And when we all look like a bunch of rabid jackels tearing apart their every statement, we lose their respect.

It's clear by this response, that they are extending a true olive branch, and we're too busy sharpening our knives to notice.

This cannot be quoted enough.

[Xarathos]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Xarathos wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

defenestrated wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

oh but they're not terrorists! they gave to charity ... oh yeah and gave bioware and EA bomb threats and now death threats.. real nice Retake Mass Effect movement you guys got together.. a bunch of whack jobs in one pot

Are you seriously so biased against people who have a different take on the ending than you that you think we're all going to condone that sort of remark?

eh? I have a problem with people who are threatening someone's life over a video game ending they can't bare yes, how is that your problem, I don't know. I haven't seen any of you saying otherwise, infact, the more this goes on, the more threats and demands I see on these forums and on twitter.. so perhaps you need to know more about the group you are involved in

Two things: 

1) I agree, nothing is worth that kind of behavior and I find it utterly abhorant.
2) Pretending that it's the fault of the movement and not the individual is the kind of attitude that causes more problems in this world than I can count, and I won't stand for that, either.

It kind of is your fault. You spur them into so much anger that they get stupid and say things that make you all look bad. You rally the troops when you should be just waiting for a responce.

Patience is a virtue none of you have.

As someone who has done little beyond call for patience and civility lately, I fail to see how this point could be correct. Unless you're generalizing, again, which I don't approve of.

[WastelanderTim]

tommythetomcat wrote...

I don't understand why you guys continue to try and reason with Dridengx, he's a troll and little more. I give him credit though, he's better than most.

just report and move on.

[HenchxNarf]

tommythetomcat wrote...

I don't understand why you guys continue to try and reason with Dridengx, he's a troll and little more. I give him credit though, he's better than most.

Yes, he must be a troll because he's not in the same mindset as you. LOGIC! You must have it!

/sarcasm

[UKillMeLongTime]

that guy needs to be banned and FBI knock on his door for tweeting that to Jessica

[Almostfaceman]

Dridengx wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

So, we all have to constantly say we're not threatening anyone's life? What? Some weirdo on Twitter gets weird and now we all have to do what exactly? Promise we're not all psycho killers? Get real. 

Incase you aren't aware, your little movement is out of hand and out of control.. contacting FTC, lawsuits, BBB, death threats!? It's a damn video game ending losers.. get a life not take one!

all of this and more didn't come from one person but the lot of you

Nope, didn't come from the lot of us, came from a few people.

[Dridengx]

Benth08x wrote...

Guys, don't feed the trolls.

*puts up sign*

so, someone trying to prevent lives from being stolen is a troll? seriously? your ignorance knows no bounds.

This hold the line BS has to stop before someone gets murdered

[HenchxNarf]

WastelanderTim wrote...

tommythetomcat wrote...

I don't understand why you guys continue to try and reason with Dridengx, he's a troll and little more. I give him credit though, he's better than most.

just report and move on.

There's nothing to report, really. They haven't personally attacked or broken the rules at all. Unlike some of you guys have.

[NightHawkIL]

https://twitter.com/...625949551476737

Finally standing up for herself. That should make everyone look a little better.

Modifié par NightHawkIL, 19 mars 2012 - 06:22 .

[SamFlagg]

Chronor wrote...

What the hell do you think BW means by "we're listening" or "gathering feedback"??? Do you seriously think that there's any substance to those quotes? Jesica as a person may be great, but she is part of the PR machine. This is purely stalling & coverup for a goof they know will raise the mother of sh**storms here.

Plus I don't understand what more "feedback" they need. BW has paid employees, use them! Especially since $80 of my money is paying their f**king salary.

Gathering feedback hypothetically in the best case scenario so they get a do over and do it right.

And as I've pointed out every PR misstep up to this point has only galvanized more people.  It's just a matter of staying resolved and not going off half cocked.

Look it's not as simple as "Lulz, it's indocrintation" and going on from there.  Trust me I'm sure a lot of us wish it was.  And many of us want a definitive answer, but there are other factors in play on all of this.  We gain nothing by going crazy in all different directions.

[mupp3tz]

There's a few trolls around here that I keep seeing pop up in almost every thread, actually. Yes, let's not feed them, as they will always just twist your words at every opportunity.

[WastelanderTim]

HenchxNarf wrote...

tommythetomcat wrote...

I don't understand why you guys continue to try and reason with Dridengx, he's a troll and little more. I give him credit though, he's better than most.

Yes, he must be a troll because he's not in the same mindset as you. LOGIC! You must have it!

/sarcasm

no i say hes a troll because he uses insulting terms such as "loser" "whiner" "no life" among others in nearly every posts he does

[Blackmind1]

Every single one of you need to calm down! You're all acting like ****ing children! I'm seeing posts on here by the same users every 5 minutes all day. You need to leave the house! get out! Get some air! None of this is healthy for any of you. I'm sure most of you are losing sleep while watching this unfold, sat in front of the computer all day.

Another thing; Get that ****ing Marketing/PR guy stuff out of your damn heads! Bioware are not the villain, they do NOT have a plan to sabotage your plan. Honestly, that post was the worst thing to happens to this forum. You think you have power, that you know about the inner workings of dealing with a community as rabid as you are. You don't. Stop pretending you do. You're all acting like complete children, who have been given a rock that they are now trying to force into something bigger. No matter what you may think, that rock will NEVER turn into a boulder.

Last but not least; IT'S A DAMN VIDEOGAME! You kids could be out there right now using this energy to make the world a better place to live, making something of yourselves. Instead, you're wasting it all on interactive entertainment.

This has now officially, by definition of the word, been turned into a situation of mob rule. I'm sure that, with the way you're all acting, you'll get nothing if you carry on. Bioware will simply abandon the projects they have and call it a lost cause, along with the whole community involved. They don't even have to stick around and answer all of your damn questions right now. Sometimes you all forget that most other companies would simply ignore you, yet Bioware are not. Jessica has shown otherwise. That poor girl is busting her ass off trying as hard as she can to keep all of you calm, collected, and happy, and you're trying to burn her at the stake for a post some random guy on the internet made. You don't even know that he's a marketer! You're taking everything given to you at face value and tearing it down as soon as you can.

PEOPLE AREN'T OUT TO GET YOU! BIOWARE ARE VERY CLEARLY NOT TRYING TO IGNORE YOU! YOU'RE BEING HEARD! GO AND OCCUPY YOURSELF WITH SOMETHING ELSE FOR A DAY OR TWO UNTIL THEY HAVE NEWS!

You run the very real risk of them cutting you and moving on if you don't calm down. Especially on the Twitter feeds. Jessica is not throwing out double speak, you barely even know what that means! You aren't marketers, and you're very highly likely going to give this poor COMMUNITY MANAGER (NOT PR) a brain hemmhorage if you don't back off, purely because of the last ten minutes of a videogame! A ****ING VIDEOGAME!

Stop and think before you act!

Sidenote: Community manager means she works for you and in your interest. The ruder you are, the more you're shooting your own messenger.

Modifié par Blackmind1, 19 mars 2012 - 06:25 .

[GBGriffin]

Dridengx wrote...

Benth08x wrote...

Guys, don't feed the trolls.

*puts up sign*

so, someone trying to prevent lives from being stolen is a troll? seriously? your ignorance knows no bounds.

This hold the line BS has to stop before someone gets murdered

You've been trolling for days now. Every time I see your name, I pretty much know what sort of post to expect.

You offer nothing new, insult others, and just do more of the same.

So, yes, troll.

[HenchxNarf]

WastelanderTim wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

tommythetomcat wrote...

I don't understand why you guys continue to try and reason with Dridengx, he's a troll and little more. I give him credit though, he's better than most.

Yes, he must be a troll because he's not in the same mindset as you. LOGIC! You must have it!

/sarcasm

no i say hes a troll because he uses insulting terms such as "loser" "whiner" "no life" among others in nearly every posts he does

Psst. Look at the way most of you are acting. It's not far from the truth.

[HenchxNarf]

Blackmind1 wrote...

Every single one of you need to calm down! You're all acting like ****ing children! I'm seeing posts on here by the same users every 5 minutes all day. You need to leave the house! get out! Get some air! None of this is healthy for any of you. I'm sure most of you are losing sleep while watching this unfold, sat in front of the computer all day.

Another thing; Get that ****ing Marketing/PR guy stuff out of your damn heads! Bioware are not the villain, they do NOT have a plan to sabotage your plan. Honestly, that post was the worst thing to happens to this forum. You think you have power, that you know about the inner workings of dealing with a community as rabid as you are. You don't. Stop pretending you do. You're all acting like complete children, who have been given a rock that they are now trying to force into something bigger. No matter what you may think, that rock will NEVER turn into a boulder.

Last but not least; IT'S A DAMN VIDEOGAME! You kids could be out there right now using this energy to make the world a better place to live, making something of yourselves. Instead, you're wasting it all on interactive entertainment.

This has now officially, by definition of the word, been turned into a situation of mob rule. I'm sure that, with the way you're all acting, you'll get nothing if you carry on. Bioware will simply abandon the projects they have and call it a lost cause, along with the whole community involved. They don't even have to stick around and answer all of your damn questions right now. Sometimes you all forget that most other companies would simply ignore you, yet Bioware are not. Jessica has shown otherwise. That poor girl is busting her ass off trying as hard as she can to keep all of you calm, collected, and happy, and you're trying to burn her at the stake for a post some random guy on the internet made. You don't even know that he's a marketer! You're taking everything given to you at face value and tearing it down as soon as you can.

PEOPLE AREN'T OUT TO GET YOU! BIOWARE ARE VERY CLEARLY NOT TRYING TO IGNORE YOU! YOU'RE BEING HEARD! GO AND OCCUPY YOURSELF WITH SOMETHING ELSE FOR A DAY OR TWO UNTIL THEY HAVE NEWS!

You run the very real risk of them cutting you and moving on if you don't calm down. Especially on the Twitter feeds. Jessica is not throwing out double speak, you barely even know what that means! You aren't marketers, and you're very highly likely going to give this poor COMMUNITY MANAGER (NOT PR) a brain hemmhorage if you don't back off purely because of the last ten minutes of a videogame! A ****ING VIDEOGAME!

Stop and think before you act!

Exactly.

[kramerfan86]

Yea Im sure EA and bioware will just close up shop if people keep complaining. The end times of video gaming have arrived.

[jellobell]

HenchxNarf wrote...

jellobell wrote...

BSN is actually being remarkably restrained. Hell, other than "Hold The Line" retake's other rallying cry is "Be Civil". There's always going to be extremists, but I think we're going pretty well.

No, you're really not. Why? Because no one has been able to have a positive thread without trolls of all flavours coming out of the woodwork telling them that their opinion is wrong and they should hate it like the rest of the sheep them.

People are angry and hurt, what do you expect? Because of the general climate of the forum, yeah, threads supporting the ending aren't going to be too popular, but the vast majority of the responses they get are simply other opinions.

[WastelanderTim]

HenchxNarf wrote...

WastelanderTim wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

tommythetomcat wrote...

I don't understand why you guys continue to try and reason with Dridengx, he's a troll and little more. I give him credit though, he's better than most.

Yes, he must be a troll because he's not in the same mindset as you. LOGIC! You must have it!

/sarcasm

no i say hes a troll because he uses insulting terms such as "loser" "whiner" "no life" among others in nearly every posts he does

Psst. Look at the way most of you are acting. It's not far from the truth.

uhh you know you just admited he was a troll right?

[HenchxNarf]

GBGriffin wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Benth08x wrote...

Guys, don't feed the trolls.

*puts up sign*

so, someone trying to prevent lives from being stolen is a troll? seriously? your ignorance knows no bounds.

This hold the line BS has to stop before someone gets murdered

You've been trolling for days now. Every time I see your name, I pretty much know what sort of post to expect.

You offer nothing new, insult others, and just do more of the same.

So, yes, troll.

And the brunt of you don't insult and troll people? OMG you're saints! I forgot.

[SamFlagg]

Dridengx wrote...

Benth08x wrote...

Guys, don't feed the trolls.

*puts up sign*

so, someone trying to prevent lives from being stolen is a troll? seriously? your ignorance knows no bounds.

This hold the line BS has to stop before someone gets murdered

I'll address you, because I don't think you're a troll.  (I mean in some of the threads definitly.  Not so much in this one.)

Your concern is valid, but this has nothing to do with video games and much more to do with whackjobery.  The people who are enraged need to simmer down slightly (just not all the way.)  And remember the goal is not to inflict damage on bioware, the goal is to get revised endings.

[Avaric4]

recentio wrote...

Waiting for a response is the best way to not get one.

Exactly. We need to keep the pressure up and make sure our position and feelings are known. Sitting around and waiting for a response accomplishes nothing.

[HenchxNarf]

WastelanderTim wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

WastelanderTim wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

tommythetomcat wrote...

I don't understand why you guys continue to try and reason with Dridengx, he's a troll and little more. I give him credit though, he's better than most.

Yes, he must be a troll because he's not in the same mindset as you. LOGIC! You must have it!

/sarcasm

no i say hes a troll because he uses insulting terms such as "loser" "whiner" "no life" among others in nearly every posts he does

Psst. Look at the way most of you are acting. It's not far from the truth.

uhh you know you just admited he was a troll right?

Actually, I didn't. I'm saying he wouldn't be saying those things to you guys if they weren't true. And I said what I said because everyone who isnt ANTI BIOWARE RETAKE ME3 is a troll to you people.