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[-Skorpious-]

Foxtrotarmy wrote...

I am holding for the belief that works of entertainment, of art, and of fiction can enlighten us, can broaden our horizons, remind us the world is beautiful and worth fighting for, that we're all heroes in our own way, and that what we believe can help take us to worlds that we didn't believe possible.

That sometimes fictional people can mean more to us and teach us more than real ones. "Sometimes people deserve more than the truth. Sometimes people deserve to have their faith rewarded." That while the encounters were artificial, the emotions were not, and I've grown as a person with every encounter, novel, film, game, or otherwise, and this deserves the kind of respect and love that I've come to give my favorite franchises.

I hold the line for something that justifies the emotions, the lessons, the growth I've felt, not as Commander Shephard, but as a fan of literature and story.

That was beautiful. 

[Slymandro]

Love.

How can anyone stand for an ending where even the best situation has Shepard totally and hopelessly separated from Tali. What's the point of playing when they took the most important thing away from me.

[AlexXIV]

Because the ending ruined everything. So what do I have to lose? Right, nothing.

[Zoso Delta]

Because Mass Effect is one of the few video game series to come out in the last 5 years I have genuinely cared about. When I look at all the games I've amassed in my life the ones that I've replayed the most are Bioware games.

think this whole movement is a huge chance for us as video game consumers to let our voice be heard as I feel we've been getting the shaft for some time.

[hector7rau]

To be able to replay the game and give closure to my original Shepard story arc, and to open the door to infinite Shepards...
Because i absolutely love this series and i know Bioware can do so much better, especially if you consider the fantastic universe they created. I just want to see that same universe being put in the place it deserves.

[Kinoru]

First things first I have been a fan of Bioware for a long time, but I admit that I only stumbled upon the series when ME 2 for the PS3 came out but when I finished it, I immediately went to buy ME 1 and ME 2 for the PC. The series' draw was that strong for me. Even then I was still playing it both on the PS3 and the PC just to get multiple storylines going. Prior to getting the 3rd one I even started another play through just to have fun. One of the most fun things about the series is it's replayability even if its just some small subtle changes.

While playing the 3rd installment of the game I was blown away by the majority of the story, then you know what came. The ending taints the series because of multiple things, most if not all of them have been brought up by other posters/reviewers so I will not repeat it.  I would be spending my time right now playing the first or second but I always end up quitting because I really do not have anything to look forward to.

And thats why I am here with the rest of the people holding the line.

Edit: Fixed some grammar and removed redundancies.

Modifié par Kinoru, 19 mars 2012 - 07:21 .

[MStango]

This is bad, bad enough to never buy a Bioware or EA anything again. And that's not a hollow threat any time I see EA on a product I will remember how painful this experience was and think twice and I doubt I‘m the only one.

By contrast if they prove they care enough to fix a grossly obvious mistake they can get many of those former fans back.

[Clive Howlitzer]

I am hoping for closure to the universe that I have grown to love and more importantly, all of the characters I've grown attached to that deserve better than what was given.
My Shepard is prepared to sacrifice himself for the greater good but not for that nonsensical ending and lazy epilogue.
If I can survive though, I promised Tali a house and I want to be able to come through on that. I'll totally make Garrus help me move my stuff.
Holding the line.

[DieHigh2012]

I love this trilogy to much to let it be ruined by 10 minuets of a plot-hole ridden ending with absolutely no closure.

[Laughing.Man.d8D]

An ending that has a proper resolution, the ending as it stands now creates more problems than it does in resolving old ones.

Bioware (even while being under EA rule) has been a developer I've had absolutely no problem with, till now. I truely hope that Bioware fixes the ending to show proper story resolutions for our Shepard's, be it dark, sad, happy or bitter-sweet. I'm sure most of us have to know that all our sacrifices be it allies or our Shepard's are not in vain.

Modifié par Laughing.Man.d8D, 19 mars 2012 - 07:26 .

[Madecologist]

I will confess, I am less about having a fitting end and more on the path that Bioware acknowledges what it did. I don't mean a simple apology or recognition. I mean like head hung low kind of recongnition. Releasing a fitting end will be the second best thing, but I can see my fellow fans and understand all of you and do hope you all get your wish. So I will support the movement and Hold the Line.

So then why do I Hold the Line, because I am tired of game companies releasing subpar stories. Bioware always was pretty good in their stories, especially when compared to other companies, but this ending shows they are falling in the same trappings the other studios are. I am tired of seeing game developers making games and doing stupid arse decisions so they can express themselves in ways 'only they can get'. Or game companies that think it is okay to do random things because people will still buy their games.

I want to see games with quality, and in the case for BW games with guality writing, and not just on average but all around, start and finish. Intro and Ending included. I want to see games excel and rise up from their place as 'just that silly medium'. I want to see people go 'wow' when they see or hear about how far games have gone.

But this will never happen if games are not held to a higher standard of quality. This is why I Hold the Line. So that my children and grand children have more to choose from than CoD 15 or Battlfiend 9. I do this on ME3, because this franchise truely had the potential to be just that, the better games.

Modifié par Madecologist, 19 mars 2012 - 07:25 .

[Statulos]

For my part, I saw how DA2 went bad and got casualized in a way it was hard to see I was playing a natural development of Origins.

I hope it does not happen to ME3 since it´s a far better game in gameplay terms that ME1 and ME2. It needs a better ending but truth of the matter is that I wouldn´t mind to play a redux version of the other two games with ME3 mechanics.

[sistersafetypin]

2007-2008 = The hardest period of my life thus far. Mass Effect helped me escape that with a ridiculously rich game, that blew my mind away visually. I replayed that game so many times before ME2 came out I honestly lost count [I would regularly delete all my save files to force fresh play throughs.] With the addition of ME2... Bioware just won me over. I shamelessly called this my favorite series.

I'll hold the line. Because I can't have one of the few things that got me through life, rendered meaningless.

[Gibb_Shepard]

So that i can actually replay the games again. As it stands, i have no interest in replaying them.

Whenever i even think of touching ME1, i get this voice: "In the end, everyone's ****ed anyhow. What's the point?"

Then i respond to that voice with a resounding: "True dat, friend. True dat."

[Yakko77]

Over a dozen completionist plays on both games. Hundreds of hours, likely over a thousand when added all up. I would like it to have a meaningful and coherent conclusion. This game has more than any other game been a personal investment. My Sheps are meaningful to me. I wouldn't have invested so much time and effort into the character and story if s/he didn't.

But it's just a game some might say. Yeah, it is but it's MY game, MY Shepard, MY Story. Bioware may have developed the game but I'm the one invested in it. That's important and that's why this game deserves a better ending.

[Sc2mashimaro]

Because Mass Effect 3 was a masterpiece, except for the end. I want to see this epic trilogy get the kind of ending it deserves.

[Kinoru]

Statulos wrote...

For my part, I saw how DA2 went bad and got casualized in a way it was hard to see I was playing a natural development of Origins.

I hope it does not happen to ME3 since it´s a far better game in gameplay terms that ME1 and ME2. It needs a better ending but truth of the matter is that I wouldn´t mind to play a redux version of the other two games with ME3 mechanics.

Oh I would so buy that if they did. Well probably if they solve this issue anyways.

[Mev186]

Because Shepard gave me some of the best moment ever in a video game. I know she wouldn't have gone out like that...

For Shepard!

[GBGriffin]

I probably deserve any and all trolling as a result from the following post, but:

To me, Mass Effect as a series meant something. It started off as a fun game, one of the few I had on my Xbox at the time, but I kept investing in it with my time, my money, and, in the end, my emotions. I've never felt this way about a series before. Even as a fantasy nerd, Lord of the Rings, Dragon Age...none of it meant as much to me as Mass Effect.

It became a passion for a number of personal reasons. I would say that I am generally a "go with the flow" sort of person, but I care deeply about the few passions that I have. If anything, I'm "holding the line" to show that I still love this series and that it isn't beyond fixing if they decide to do something about it.

Honestly, though....I have to be somewhat realistic and accept that it may take a long time to get fixed, if ever. If that's the case, I'd just like them to acknowledge that they messed up. They took a pretty big miscalculation with their "artistic vision"...and I'd just like them to acknowledge they made a mistake, for starters.

If that was the only thing that came out of all of this...I'd be satisfied. Still upset about it, but satisfied that they could admit letting fans liek myself and others down. Ending DLC or an ending "fix" would be the dream...but right now, just owning up to a mistake would do it for me in the short term.

[SnakeSNMF]

For my most favorite game and storylines' universe to not be destroyed.

No, it's not Shepard dying that agitates me. He needs closure.
No, it's not the plot-hole at the ending of the game in which my companions somehow appear on the Normandy that agitates me. That (could) be explainable.
No, it's not the "Starchild" plot that was so horribly written, cliche and just terrible.. That did not agitate me.

What agitated me the most, what agitated me in general? The Relays being destroyed.
No Relays, no FTL travel. No FTL travel, everyone is stranded to one star-system.
One star-system (like Sol) wouldn't have the resources to provide for all those species that are now stuck near Earth. And even if Earth is not destroyed in the process, it kind of is. All that debris near it? It's going to be a dead planet soon. All of it is going to fall to the Earth. It's going to suck. Food, water, everything will be hard to find. The fallout of the Reaper invasion will have a huge toll that will probably kill a majority of the population, if all.

Then there's the idea that once a Relay explodes, it destroys the entire star-system, so that might render my entire rant eariler just mute...
Nontheless, still. FTL travel is needed. This is a science-fiction universe. It might have interesting fallout, but it leaves you with nothing to hope or grasp for, the fact that every Relay is destroyed is absolutely retarded.

[Reptilian Rob]

-Skorpious- wrote...

Foxtrotarmy wrote...

I am holding for the belief that works of entertainment, of art, and of fiction can enlighten us, can broaden our horizons, remind us the world is beautiful and worth fighting for, that we're all heroes in our own way, and that what we believe can help take us to worlds that we didn't believe possible.

That sometimes fictional people can mean more to us and teach us more than real ones. "Sometimes people deserve more than the truth. Sometimes people deserve to have their faith rewarded." That while the encounters were artificial, the emotions were not, and I've grown as a person with every encounter, novel, film, game, or otherwise, and this deserves the kind of respect and love that I've come to give my favorite franchises.

I hold the line for something that justifies the emotions, the lessons, the growth I've felt, not as Commander Shephard, but as a fan of literature and story.

That was beautiful. 

Indeed it was.

[RagingCeltik]

I'm holding the line because I believe artistic integrity is about art staying consistent to the tone and context of the work, not the artist just doing what they want and telling naysayers "tough" if they don't "get" it as some believe.

The ending betrays the artistic integrity of the rest of Mass Effect.

Hold the line!

[Loreshield]

So that I can play through the whole trilogy yet again, only without the terryfing endings looming over me the entire time.

[Lunaluxlepus]

I messed up my exams and **** playing ME1 and I didn't regret it. Now, with ME3 ending as it is, I regret every minutes I have spent playing the whole trilogy. I don't want to feel like this.

Modifié par Lunaluxlepus, 19 mars 2012 - 07:37 .

[dakka dakka]

I am holding the line because I...AM...KROGAN!!!!

but seriously because I fell in complete love with the series and well thought out and crafted characters. The way it all ended just felt like a slap in the face to me so I hold the line to solve the problem.

Though when Guild Wars 2 comes out I make no promises......And if Bioware doesn't fix this series then they can count me out of their future profits. A company that lost the ability to create a meaningful product does not need to exist in my opinion. *shrugs*