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[DukeOfNukes]

Filament wrote...

DukeOfNukes wrote...

Honestly don't think I'd pay BioWare any more money. I'm feeling incredibly disenfranchised right now.

...They've suppressed your participation in the democratic process?

They've held back my right to feel good about the direction the series took.

[CerberusSoldier]

The idea of a reboot of the Mass Effect series sounds great so long as Bioware is not a part of it . If EA got real sci fi writers on it that would be awesome .

[Dave of Canada]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

The idea of a reboot of the Mass Effect series sounds great so long as Bioware is not a part of it . If EA got real sci fi writers on it that would be awesome .

I'm not asking for a reboot of the entire series, despite how great that sounds after how ruined the entirety of the series with ME3, just a remake of the storyline DLC for ME3. They can keep the gameplay and the like, despite me having issues with those too. Storyline is a very crucial part of the Mass Effect series which was abandoned with ME3.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 19 mars 2012 - 07:54 .

[Kanner]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

The idea of a reboot of the Mass Effect series sounds great so long as Bioware is not a part of it . If EA got real sci fi writers on it that would be awesome .

This has the strongest potential of anything I've heard so far.

[Seboist]

Kanner wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

The idea of a reboot of the Mass Effect series sounds great so long as Bioware is not a part of it . If EA got real sci fi writers on it that would be awesome .

This has the strongest potential of anything I've heard so far.

Yes, with real sci-fi writers we'd avoid things like comic book logic derived plots where "lol something bad has to happen for there to be a story!" or black and white disney morality where the Rachni and Geth are these cute and cuddly beings who only do bad things because of "lol indoctrination" or have mercs and Cerberus do EVULZ FOR THE LULZ.

[r00tb33r]

Well, the franchise has touched some grand ideas, it was very thought provoking. Unfortunately as the 3rd game shows, writers don't always posses the necessary competence on these subjects.
The ideal Mass Effect game would be written by Ph.Ds and professors... And those people don't care much for video games. Unless of course they start to recognize video games as a powerful medium to deliver message through.

[Dave of Canada]

It's a shame that not many of you see this as an issue, I view it far more worrying than the endings. They're both caused by the same issue, as changing the storyline would alter the endings--possibly for the better, as you'd need to have choices have grander scale.

Hold the (story)line.

[Seboist]

r00tb33r wrote...

Well, the franchise has touched some grand ideas, it was very thought provoking. Unfortunately as the 3rd game shows, writers don't always posses the necessary competence on these subjects.
The ideal Mass Effect game would be written by Ph.Ds and professors... And those people don't care much for video games. Unless of course they start to recognize video games as a powerful medium to deliver message through.

Would be great to have some military advisors onboard too. That way they can make the battles look more genuine and entertaining unlike the Geth/Quarian and Earth battles that look like a 1700s infantry battle in space.

[TheBlackBaron]

Seboist wrote...

r00tb33r wrote...

Well, the franchise has touched some grand ideas, it was very thought provoking. Unfortunately as the 3rd game shows, writers don't always posses the necessary competence on these subjects.
The ideal Mass Effect game would be written by Ph.Ds and professors... And those people don't care much for video games. Unless of course they start to recognize video games as a powerful medium to deliver message through.

Would be great to have some military advisors onboard too. That way they can make the battles look more genuine and entertaining unlike the Geth/Quarian and Earth battles that look like a 1700s infantry battle in space.

To be fair, they had to scale down the battles so that you can see more than one ship in any given frame. The Codex entires are fairly accurate, in any event. 

[jaza]

Hold the line!

Love isn't always on time!

Beta humour aside, I have a question for you Dave.

Assuming, against all odds and resonable expectations, that Bioware actually would make a remake of the game, what would be vital in such a remake?

The ending would be, obviously, and a better treatment of Cerberus and TIM, but is there anything else?

For me, I'd probably want less auto dialouge.

Oh and PinkDiamondstl: Dave's post is satire.

Modifié par jaza, 19 mars 2012 - 07:58 .

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

You want that go for it yell your heart out. Most of us will disagree with you and unlike retake mass effect you will be the only one advocating it.

[Dave of Canada]

jaza wrote...

The ending would be, obviously, and a better treatment of Cerberus and TIM, but is there anything else?

Choices mattering.
Better treatment of characters all around. (Thane and Jacob come to mind, I enjoy what they did but it could've been handled a thousand times better)
Sacrifice and how far you'll go to stop the Reapers being a main theme.
Reapers being the primary focus. (Cerberus took too much of the spotlight as antagonist)
Little to no plotholes.
Diverging endings.
No "one plot fits all". (Killed Rachni? Fight Rachni! Spared Rachni? Fight Rachni!)
Assets impacting differently. Having Rachni on your side should be different than having Grunt and his mercs. It's odd to see no Rachni ships in the finale or Rachni helping you on the ground, for example.
Less "third choice".

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 19 mars 2012 - 08:33 .

[Pyrothol]

This can't work. The story was fine, the ending of it was not.

[r00tb33r]

As far as ME3 fix is concerned, they can't fix too much at this point cause actors received their pay and all went wherever they came from. Getting them back in the studio to record more is problematic.

[Taradil]

Oh come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. How the **** do you think that's even possible? Mass Effect 3 costed hundreds of millions to make, which with the sales-numbers of ME3, probably makes the game a loss. It's not going to happen, an ending maybe, but an entire game, redone? It would make Bioware go bankrupt.

[Dave of Canada]

Pyrothol wrote...

This can't work. The story was fine, the ending of it was not.

Jacob being borderline stereotype, Thane romanced essentially being ignored, Udina and Cerberus being evil!!!111, choices not mattering, plotholes which devour ME1 and ME2, a lot of personalities which players may have attributed to their characters being destroyed, the contrived reasoning for pretty much everything and more question that. We musn't accept poor quality writing for ME3, we must hold the line!

[r00tb33r]

It would be easier for them to admit that they ****ed up and say that they give up. Say that they learned their lesson and will reap the consequences, but the game will stay as-is.

[Ghost Warrior]

I hope the OP is just being sarcastic,in that case this is ingenious thread. If not,it deserves massive facepalm.

End of the line.

[tetrisblock4x1]

Yeah, the Reapers were defeated too easily. Mass Effect 1 should have been the last time that Shepard saw a Reaper. 2 and 3 should have all been random short stories about Shepard the spectre and friends where it was all about fitting in with galactic civilization and somehow proving that tens and thousands of Reapers were coming to invade from hundreds of years away. So when it's time for ME4, the galaxy has had a few hundred years to research to a point where the Reapers can realistically be beaten with conventional weapons and not this DEM crucible rubbish which all the much more advanced cycles (like the Protheans) somehow never had a chance to use.

[TheBlackBaron]

They should remake ME2 and ME3 using only mechanics from ME1.

Maybe then people would recognize how, on the balance sheet, rough and broken it is compared to the latter two (even if a handful of things would be improved).

[Dave of Canada]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

They should remake ME2 and ME3 using only mechanics from ME1.

Storyline would still need to be remade.

Hold the line!