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#26
Adsinjapan

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For one piece of DLC that entirely fixes the ending to a broken game, I think they SHOULD give it to us for free.

The fact is with the release of ME2, they offered us a lot of free DLC and we praised it.
What have Bioware given us so far that's really worth our attention?
They only went and charged people for the first piece of DLC so far, and the other bit is multiplayer, which not everyone is into.
Personally, I think BW should give us the ending DLC for free and if it's well done, then by all means charge us for the rest.

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cjmarsh725

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Would you rather pay for an ending with quality cinematics or receive a free slideshow?

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HaesoME3

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SonicAF wrote...

They have just finished colossal work. They are not supposed to continue working anymore for free(even if their finished product sucks in some way).

As for me - I do not care if it's paid or not. My favourite series has been spoiled. I beg them to fix it. I'm gonna pay if they do.


And this is why they can get away releasing such tripe, because they know they can do no wrong as long as they keep charging you money you'll keep bending over and paying.

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Lietuvis wrote...

I actually prefer it was not free. If it was free, you can guess what ending we would get >_>


Are you noticing what we got for 60 bucks? If THAT is level of delivery for money paid with Bioware, I predict they will end up in the list of "no longer existing"-list of EA studios.

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I would prefer it to be very well written and very well done. That's what I'd prefer. Given the amount of time I've invested in the series, $10 is a pittance.

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Grumpy-Mcfart wrote...

given the resources that would go into fixing the ending. it is unreasonable to expect them to fix it and ask nothing in return


This. Basically, I would rather buy DLC that fixes the ending than not have the ending fixed.

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Defiantfa11 wrote...

We would get THIS if it was free

so you are setteling down for them to exploit you the last 5 minutes have plot holes capable of swallowing a complete arm of the galaxy the ending in it self scream DLC or EA unrealistic dead lines any dev who played the whole game knew it they knew it was gonna go in hell when ever it would be released.

and if we settle for this kind of crap they will soon make us enter our credit card at the begining of the game and befor each passage of the game make us pay 1 bucks for the lowest one 2 for the bug free version and 5 for the one that does not cause any plot holes (hell thier DLC system is almost there)

common guys show that you won;t accept being bull****ed by a compagnie that rolls on millions and always try every little sneaky strategie to milk every penie you have

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Yes it should be free. But the chances of them actually doing anything at all are much higher when we throw money at it, no matter how dirty it makes us feel.

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Miphious wrote...

granyte wrote...

The ending need to be fixed for free just look at the amount of plot holes the actual ending created.
these plot holes need to be fixed for free now if they wanna add some dlc content after the plot holes have been fixed fine for them.

but we need to stop setteling for crap if we bow down and buy a DLC only to fix what they broke we are basicaly saying it's alright put out crap and then have me pay so you fix what you did wrong.


qft


qtf again

#35
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Oh snap is it really TB?

Anyway...
At this point I'd prefer they do a "broken steel" that not only addresses the ending, but adds a large amount of bonus content to the game for a price.

In the mean time, it would be nice of them to add a free optional fix that just cuts everything out after Anderson's death.

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Grumpy-Mcfart wrote...

granyte wrote...

The ending need to be fixed for free just look at the amount of plot holes the actual ending created.
these plot holes need to be fixed for free now if they wanna add some dlc content after the plot holes have been fixed fine for them.

but we need to stop setteling for crap if we bow down and buy a DLC only to fix what they broke we are basicaly saying it's alright put out crap and then have me pay so you fix what you did wrong.


given the resources that would go into fixing the ending. it is unreasonable to expect them to fix it and ask nothing in return


"Hey, I broke this vase. You're not expecting me to fix it for free are you?"

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Tiax Rules All wrote...

DLC necessary
Free preferred


This. I'm not unreasonable. If it's not free, then it's an acceptable compromise.

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Grumpy-Mcfart wrote...

granyte wrote...

The ending need to be fixed for free just look at the amount of plot holes the actual ending created.
these plot holes need to be fixed for free now if they wanna add some dlc content after the plot holes have been fixed fine for them.

but we need to stop setteling for crap if we bow down and buy a DLC only to fix what they broke we are basicaly saying it's alright put out crap and then have me pay so you fix what you did wrong.


given the resources that would go into fixing the ending. it is unreasonable to expect them to fix it and ask nothing in return


It was unreasonable for them to end the game the way they did.

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Total Biscuit wrote...

A paid DLC will be far bigger and have far more content and effort put into it than one they're going to make a 100% loss on by giving out for free.

I don't want to pay for something I was promised in the first place and didn't receive, but I'd rather pay for top quality and a full fix than be given the minimum they can spare that just polishes the turd for free.


This.

If it has to be paid for to be top quality then I'll pay for it. Grudgingly. But it'd be the last penny they'd ever get out of me.

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Slidell505 wrote...

Grumpy-Mcfart wrote...

granyte wrote...

The ending need to be fixed for free just look at the amount of plot holes the actual ending created.
these plot holes need to be fixed for free now if they wanna add some dlc content after the plot holes have been fixed fine for them.

but we need to stop setteling for crap if we bow down and buy a DLC only to fix what they broke we are basicaly saying it's alright put out crap and then have me pay so you fix what you did wrong.


given the resources that would go into fixing the ending. it is unreasonable to expect them to fix it and ask nothing in return


"Hey, I broke this vase. You're not expecting me to fix it for free are you?"


Bad analogy is bad. They didn't "break" anything in a sense.

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i already paid 95$ bucks to have a collector edition and expected nothing les then and epic ending now don;t make me cry i have a fairly good idea of the amount of money it takes to devlop a game and
5$ is actualy what the devlopement costed
10$ is the publicity
20$ the PR to cover thier back
and the rest is profit



stop trying to make me cry over the poor multi-national compagnie that EA is

Modifié par granyte, 19 mars 2012 - 08:56 .


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Wow... will people pay $10 for game patches and bugfixes too from now on? As if we didn't get ripped off enough already....
If you expect nothing good for free, just look at CDProject as a shining example of FREE fan service. It's just an easy question of "are enough people willing to pay for it? Oh really? Okay, let them pay then". By now every community complaint turns out into another opportunity for BW to get more cash, in the future I as a game developer would release only half-assed stuff now and wait for the business ideas from angry fans.

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cjmarsh725 wrote...

Would you rather pay for an ending with quality cinematics or receive a free slideshow?

i already have a porly written tri color paid slide show ......

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Lunaluxlepus

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Like what Forbes articles have said, they have to make it Free, for a good PR service.

That is the cost of building up a good PR.

And as I have said multiple times, I am not gonna pay them to fix what they have messed up in the first place.

Either they make it free, or I go right away to Youtube.

Modifié par Lunaluxlepus, 19 mars 2012 - 09:01 .


#45
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Objectively, corporations are in business to do one thing: make money. If a corporation does not make money, it fails. If new endings are released (and that's a big IF right now) it's a virtual lock that it will cost money, otherwise it would hurt the bottom line, and that is not good business.

While each of us are entitled to our opinions, it is important to remember that if we want our own opinions respected, we need to respect the opinions of others, rather than telling them to stop voicing their opinions simply because they do not agree with us.

$0.02

#46
MakeMineMako

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I would have absolutely no problem paying for new endings DLC.

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granyte wrote...

cjmarsh725 wrote...

Would you rather pay for an ending with quality cinematics or receive a free slideshow?

i already have a porly written tri color paid slide show ......


The cinematics may have been practically the same but they were cinematics.

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 Yeah, I mean, why should we pay the people who have provided us with entertainment for the past 5 years? Geez, I'm the one who worked my ass off on getting this game out to all of these ungrateful gamers.

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Lunaluxlepus wrote...

Like what Forbes articles have said, they have to make it Free, for a good PR service.

That is the cost of building up a good PR.

And as I have said multiple times, I am not gonna pay them to fix what they have messed up in the first place.

Either they make it free, or I go right away to Youtube.


This.

Paying for a good ending is probably one of the worst things you could do for the industry, it just tells the publishers that they can get away with that. (Same with day 1 DLC)

I already see the advertisments: "Did not get your favortie coulour in the ME 3 endings? Here are the yellow and violet endings for 10 $!!"

#50
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good buisnes is making sure you customer will come back making me pay to fix what they broke is not good buiness it's infact really poor buisnes cause spoiling your customers is not suposed to bring you money

and if ever spoiling your customers become good buisness then screw this we are over we might as well pre give them all our money so they don;t have to makes us endure Me3 over and over again just to milk us again


and something you guys seem to be missing if we open the doors every game publisher will rush in and milk every one with paid ending DLC