Hudathan wrote...
Just because the endings aren't what they seem doesn't mean that indoctrination theory is automatically true. It will remain a theory until Bioware confirms or denies it.
Liquoid wrote... "Shepard Lives" cutscene is proof for the indoctrination interpretation.
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nullobject wrote...
...I can't believe your small minds still refuse to face the truth of this.
Let me help you.
Let's just ignore all the evidence and hints contained throughout the game, there are plenty of threads and videos about that; let's just use simple logic to look at the situation from a writing and corporate culture perspective.
How can you actually think that the same writing team responsible for the great character interaction and mid game quests in this game could also be the team responsible for a totally broken finale? Since when have Bioware made games with that kind of extreme variation in writing quality?
Where do you get the idea that Bioware would deliberately put a stupid, infuriating, and lore-violating ending on a game from one of their most popular franchises, and seriously think it was a good idea? In fact, where do you get the idea that Bioware would be anything but ultra-careful with a best selling franchise?
We know what Bioware writers are capable of, and they've never made a game before where we get hints throughout the game of the final reveal, but when we get there it is disappointing and laughable. Why would they start doing that now?
Surely you can't beleive that a company with the talented employees that produced the story and gameplay of titles like Mass Effect 1, KOTOR, Baldurs Gate 2 and Dragon Age could seriously make this kind of mistake?
Clearly Bioware intended the Indoctrination ending all along, it is the simplest explanation. The "Final Hours" stuff is deliberately misleading, they just fed Jeff Keighley false information to help maintain the illusion. For now they are just patiently enduring enduring the bad press and potential sales losses from the ending, as they know that the wave of relief and gratitude from the fans when they make the big reveal will make it all worth it.
Liquoid wrote...
It's a cutscene you get only if you choose Destroy option with sufficient EMS (4-5k, depending on how Anderson left the building).
Not an easter egg, it's a legit segment of the ending sequence.
Modifié par Claym0re, 19 mars 2012 - 09:16 .
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OhManTFE wrote...
Why would their game not have the proper ending then... why would they save it for a patch that is just as bad. Or worse, if they are going to charge you for the actual ending.
Also what is the narrative point of that entire dream sequence, joker running away, the epilogue with stargazer, the whole confrontation with TIM. All that **** was just meaningless filler?
And why would Harbinger try to indoctrinate Shepard, why not finish him off with a final blast of his laser?
None of it adds up. Fact is Bioware screwed up with the ending, no-one knows how they screwed it up, but they did. Don't let cognitive dissonance cloud your judgement. The only way we are going to get an ending this series deserves is if we all beg for it.
MFW it turns out to be true.Arcian wrote...
The indoctination theory proving true would be an even worse insult to the fans than the endings we got.
"Lol it was all a dream actually, now buy the DLC to get the real ending."
Yeah no, I want them to admit they dropped the ball. They can't hide behind fan theories crafted by desperate people in denial.
Modifié par Sal86, 19 mars 2012 - 09:20 .
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Yeah I just noticed 5 mins agoSu13perfitz wrote...
nullobject wrote...
...I can't believe your small minds still refuse to face the truth of this.
Let me help you.
Let's just ignore all the evidence and hints contained throughout the game, there are plenty of threads and videos about that; let's just use simple logic to look at the situation from a writing and corporate culture perspective.
How can you actually think that the same writing team responsible for the great character interaction and mid game quests in this game could also be the team responsible for a totally broken finale? Since when have Bioware made games with that kind of extreme variation in writing quality?
Where do you get the idea that Bioware would deliberately put a stupid, infuriating, and lore-violating ending on a game from one of their most popular franchises, and seriously think it was a good idea? In fact, where do you get the idea that Bioware would be anything but ultra-careful with a best selling franchise?
We know what Bioware writers are capable of, and they've never made a game before where we get hints throughout the game of the final reveal, but when we get there it is disappointing and laughable. Why would they start doing that now?
Surely you can't beleive that a company with the talented employees that produced the story and gameplay of titles like Mass Effect 1, KOTOR, Baldurs Gate 2 and Dragon Age could seriously make this kind of mistake?
Clearly Bioware intended the Indoctrination ending all along, it is the simplest explanation. The "Final Hours" stuff is deliberately misleading, they just fed Jeff Keighley false information to help maintain the illusion. For now they are just patiently enduring enduring the bad press and potential sales losses from the ending, as they know that the wave of relief and gratitude from the fans when they make the big reveal will make it all worth it.
I see what you did there....
WELL PLAYED OP
Modifié par Axolotl Shepard, 19 mars 2012 - 09:23 .
Claym0re wrote...
Liquoid wrote...
It's a cutscene you get only if you choose Destroy option with sufficient EMS (4-5k, depending on how Anderson left the building).
Not an easter egg, it's a legit segment of the ending sequence.
The indoc theory would be great if the ME franchise was originally intended to be a quadrology. Man that would be a real badass apetizer for ME4.
I know its hard to accept, but they simply screwed it up...badly.
Modifié par Liquoid, 19 mars 2012 - 09:21 .
shadey wrote...
They aren't going to write an ending that would need a whole other game to answer.
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