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EA CEO John Riccitiello this is why we must hold the line and not give in.


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#101
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Relwyn wrote...

And they say that Capitalism rocks. :|


It does rock. Nobody is forcing you to pay for anything. It's an entertainment. You don't like it - don't buy it. Plenty of other payment options in other games.

If they pull off something like that and people pay for it, it would mean the business model proposed is viable. If people don't pay, they will modify it, the same as we are seeing MMOs going from subscription to free for all plus microtransactions.

It'll be fine. :)

EDIT: Typos.

Modifié par Kub666, 19 mars 2012 - 02:19 .


#102
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Wow, guys, calm down. This a CEO making a point about F2P to shareholders who probably don't play video games in a very bad way. Let's be honest, F2P, if implemented in the way he literally says it should be, would never be viable commercially. Nobody would do anything like this.

F2P is an interesting idea, but it needs to be developed better.


Even in a F2P system, charging people for things like reloading is kind of awful.

And EA is already doing it... Just look at ME3's unlock system.

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I dont get it, the guy is just doing money.... theres nothing wrong there, at least hes honest - "I want to rip you off" - about it.

If he CAN do what he wants and if he does get away with it with profits then it just proves theres a lot of stupid people in the world, otherwise he would be deep off with nothing but his crap ideas.

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Lol you guys freak out over an example, microtransactions are on the way and there's nothing to stop it. Companies have to make substantial money to make the stuff we like, a "break even" won't cut it.

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Well, to be fair, this guys our best hope atm...... If he smells ending DLC money ending DLC will be made =D

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pharsti wrote...

I dont get it, the guy is just doing money.... theres nothing wrong there, at least hes honest - "I want to rip you off" - about it.

If he CAN do what he wants and if he does get away with it with profits then it just proves theres a lot of stupid people in the world, otherwise he would be deep off with nothing but his crap ideas.


Speaking as someone who is generally supportive of DLC (in theory), that youtube blurb is pretty horrifying.

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CaptainJaques wrote...

I think he's talking about free-to-play tho... then having RMT in game when people are invested. While the reloading example is a bit far, that's just good business sense: League of Legends does this really well


No, he's discussing how to use this crap in all games. All the time.

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This is monstrous

#109
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This'll drive the gaming industry into the grave and give rise to smaller companies that give a crap about their customers like when the industry first started. This shows that EA's greed has no bounds and nobody with an ounce of gaming knowledge is running things. We need to find a way to make the share holders aware of what is going on and how it will lose them money.

#110
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Yep. Business as usual. I don't see why this is surprising to anyone. Did we expect the EA CEO to be like the kid from Grandma's Boy? He's a business guy. He isn't a "gamer". He runs a company, he's trying to squeeze as much money out of people as he can, that's essentially his job. If people decide to pay for that, he's done his job. It is a problem, certainly, but a problem people should've expected all along when games started outranking movies in terms of sales in entertainment.

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Its simple really, people won't buy games anymore. Consider the price points of gaming then, increasing the price of actually playing and owning a game to play out its core value will go up. Parents will be less likely to support paying such outrageous prices, so this will slash lots of the kids out of the market. Other people will simply find other means of entertainment, and not support such things. It honestly wouldn't take a long time for this to hurt a company in the end, and with shareholder pressure, cause a modification of this behavior.

This would really push the line of out pricing gaming, however the gaming community is also to blame for the absurd direction things are going. If people didn't engage in the micro-transactions, weren't so easily willing to part with their money for DLC the industry would not have gone this direction. The fact is that the community went that direction providing that it is a viable business model, and they will push that model as far as they can until it becomes non-viable. To use a economics term, they will find the equillibruim of what they can, and can't do. So long as we green light this, it will happen, so don't just look at the company! If you supported this kinda micro-transaction bull, then you are equally at fault.

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People like him are also why the other branches of the entertainment industry are failing, at first the industries were run by people who enjoyed what they were doing and knew the business. Now all you need is a college degree and you get hired. Sadly factories are like it too. I had a plant manager who knew squat about anything but got the job because of his degree.

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wesr wrote...

People like him are also why the other branches of the entertainment industry are failing, at first the industries were run by people who enjoyed what they were doing and knew the business. Now all you need is a college degree and you get hired. Sadly factories are like it too. I had a plant manager who knew squat about anything but got the job because of his degree.


I work in a semiconductor manufacturing facility. The low-level managers are ok because they're just technicians that have been promoted up to management positions, but the high level guys are the most clueless bastards on the planet. They couldn't even hook up their own Blu-Ray players, but they run the most advanced tech company on Earth.

As soon as you get one of these bean counting idiots shifting focus from the thing that your company does to "the shareholder" - you've F'd yourself in the A. The shareholder is to benefit as a byproduct of you kicking butt at job #1. Shifting your focus away from your core strength to focus on money is a sure-fire way to spiral into doomsday.

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Pay to reload? pahahahah-- I'll just pull out my combat knife and die with honour than sell my soul to EA and their stupid schemes to milk money from me for stupid little things. Greedy ignoramus pigs.

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This will never happen; this guy is living in a fantasy world.

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Not amused...

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That is disturbing.

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Demonburnt wrote...

Don't see how they are going to charge on cracked games...


They will simply do what CDPR does, send a lawyer with the bill to pay up. And they won't even care that they can't prove it. (Or they will lie that they have a super secret magic way to find anyone who pirated it.)

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Militarized wrote...

Relwyn wrote...

And they say that Capitalism rocks. :|


Brainwashed people say that. Which, admittedly, is quite a few. 

Yeah..  I remember how much fun it was to live in a socialist country, the great games we played! Oh wait...

#120
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This is disturbing to say the least.....he sounds....greedy....& evil....in the future we can't let people like that exist....

Modifié par FyreSyder, 19 mars 2012 - 03:29 .


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I don't want to live on this planet any longer...

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AlexXIV wrote...

If people are stupid enough to pay 15 bucks a month for a single player game then why not? Take the money from the stupid and give it to the smart. They know better ways to use it anyway.



Stop it.

#123
FyreSyder

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LightweightJustice wrote...

I don't want to live on this planet any longer...


Oh man me too.... :( 
Dispatch me now!!!

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Relwyn wrote...

And they say that Capitalism rocks. :|


Green ending fan?

#125
LightweightJustice

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Ok, now we can really see who is striving for world dominance.