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[Tazzmission]

Aloren wrote...

ME3 is still the best imo. Actually, to me, 2 is the "worst" in the trilogy (though t's still aanstic game)

i wouldnt say me2 is the worst but i did find it filler

the story in it to me at least was a hit and miss at the same time


me1 and me3 imo are equal when it comes to the actuall story continuity

[WildcardCharlie]

ME - Best in exploration, music, general atmosphere
ME 2 - Best in relationships, romances, and variability of choices
ME 3 - Best combat

Modifié par WildcardCharlie, 19 mars 2012 - 10:37 .

[killnoob]

DarkHod wrote...

There were 12 squad mates who were more fleshed out than the 6 we had here. BioWaresaod they cut squad mates down so they could focus on them and give them more story. The squad mates in this game barely had more to say than DLC characters Kasumi and Zaeed.
                                                                                                            
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LMAO
Garrus in ME2: calibration calibration reach and flexibility and then  calibration
Garrus in ME3: flirts with Tali (unromanced), conversation with Vega, conversation with Liara, share jokes with Joker. conversation with Wrex,  conversation with Legion...and conversation with his own dad and pray for his family's safety


yeah, I agree,  ME3 ending sucks, but to say that  squadmates in ME2 have more thing to say is just stupid.

Modifié par killnoob, 19 mars 2012 - 10:39 .

[killnoob]

[quote]killnoob wrote...

DarkHod wrote...

There were 12 squad mates who were more fleshed out than the 6 we had here. BioWaresaod they cut squad mates down so they could focus on them and give them more story. The squad mates in this game barely had more to say than DLC characters Kasumi and Zaeed.
                                                                                                            
[quote]

LMAO
Garrus in ME2: calibration calibration reach and flexibility and then  calibration
Garrus in ME3: flirts with Tali (unromanced), conversation with Vega, conversation with Liara, share jokes with Joker. conversation with Wrex,  conversation with Legion...and conversation with his own dad and pray for his family's safety


yeah, I agree,  ME3 ending sucks, but to say that  squadmates in ME2 have more thing to say is just stupid.

[Sirsmirkalot]

No, the narrative structure, story and gameplay elements were miles ahead of Mass Effect 2 for me. I love how you picked up your partymembers as the story went on, instead of the story revolving about gathering squadmates. I also loved the improved combat, loot and upgrading system.

That is, until you get hit by the beam and the ending starts. The game takes a nosedive in all area's after that.

[Indylavi]

colouroflife wrote...

Excatly, ME2 was way better than ME3 in many aspects included animations and graphics. Most significantly we had full control over story and outcomes and there were not abundant amount of auto-dialogues like in ME3.

ME1 still stands the best of all three. Sadly it has gotten worse and worse with every installment, somehow.

I agree. I'm somebody who came to the Mass Effect series a bit late. ME2 was my first ME game. I liked it so much I went out and bought the first one. With all of it's flaws, ME1 IMHO, is still the best produced of the series. It seemed to be the most consistent in production values.

ME2 was still good. But some things you could tell were just rushed. Like the two addon squad mates Zaeed and Kasumi. I was able to over look at as they are just DLC. In ME3 however, all squad members are like that. The more I play ME3 the more it feels rushed. I don't want to be one of those Bioware was better before EA people. But the quality of this series and others (Dragon Age) was gone way down since they were bought

[minuscolo]

I might agree that ME2 felt the most polished out of the series, but I enjoyed ME3 more. The combat and story was better, despite the endings.

[LetMeW1n]

^yup lol. A great example of ME3's game mechanics at play was the the the

(might be spoilerific)

missions on rannoch. Having to earn some trust, respect and support from the admirals through doing missions beforehand, as well as having to ease the quarians' current war situation to get the best possible outcome. Even the reputation check part. It actually not only made sense but is fulfilling and interesting as well.

Maybe I'm glorifying it a little bit..

Modifié par LetMeW1n, 19 mars 2012 - 10:52 .

[tiger-tron]

I'd say ME2 and 3 are on par with each other. Both have good and bad points that balance out.

ME2's good:

- More characters
- More exploration
- More character development
- LOTSB
- Kasumi Lost Memories
- Brilliant opening

The bad:

- Hammerhead was rubbish
- Lack of RPG feeling
- Had more technical problems (PS3 version for me anyway)
- Planet scanning
- No Mako exploration

ME3's good:

- Lots of missions
- Great soundtrack
- Great opening
- A better Citadel
- Better art style than ME2.
- EDI
- Virmire survivor playing a bigger role
- Fighting Reapers, not Collectors
- More of an RPG than ME2
- Multiplayer
- Earth

The bad:

- No exploration. I want my Mako back damnit!
- Auto dialogue
- Lack of character development
- Reapers disrupting your planet scanning. For that reason alone ME2's is better...
- ME2 characters having limited roles thanks to ME2

ME1 however is still the best in the series imo.

- Best soundtrack
- Felt like an RPG
- Lots of exploration - driving around on uncharted planets and obtaining resources
- Best story
- Best locations
- Character development

I do feel that in terms of story, art style and atmosphere ME1 and 3 were more related than ME2.

Modifié par tiger-tron, 19 mars 2012 - 10:52 .

[orangesonic]

in my opinion the combat in ME3 was way better the in ME2... but ME2 had better (involving choce) story, better missions, much more places to go and things to do, more charismatic characters (sorry, i hate Kaidan or Ashley, and the ninja gaiden Kai leng lol)...

ME3 had some awesome art and weapons but in the cut-scenes there were too much Bugs and glitches... ME2 was better... the end was better...
In ME3, somehow i knew that shepard was supposed to die, but i wanted for him/her to die in style like a martyr, not some... u know lol

[Moondoggie]

LetMeW1n wrote...

^yup lol. A great example of ME3's game mechanics at play was the the the

(might be spoilerific)

missions on rannoch. Having to earn some trust, respect and support from the admirals through doing missions beforehand, as well as having to ease the quarians' current war situation to get the best possible outcome. Even the reputation check part. It actually not only made sense but is fulfilling and interesting as well.

Maybe I'm glorifying it a little bit..

What was great about moments like that was the decisions you had to make were actually one you thought about. It wasn't just "should i be a good guy and help people or just a dick for the heck of it?" it was like "okay if i do this i help these people but i won't get help from these people and if i get those people on my side i'll need to screw over these people" i found myself weighing up what would help me in the big picture against helping characters i like in the game it was an interesting way of engaging the player and more immersive in a desperate situation people can and do commit the unthinkable. 

i felt that had not been present in the previous games where decisions were more simple if you were playing Paragon or Renegade the choices were obvious.

Modifié par Moondoggie, 19 mars 2012 - 10:57 .

[LetMeW1n]

^btw what is character development anyway? I felt that I know my squadmates pretty good already from 1 and 2, and 3 has done a pretty good job in making them feel even deeper, ala "old friends"

[Tirigon]

ME1: Best story, worst gameplay, worst graphics.
ME2: Good story, but worse than ME1, better gameplay and graphics
ME3: Good story but f*cked over by the ending, best gameplay, best graphics.

Typical EA pattern: Improve asploshions at the cost of story.

[Phoenix NL]

I thought ME2 was a great game and have probably played it more than ME1. I think the improved graphics and gameplay made it better for me but I still enjoyed them all (barring the obvious ending fiasco).

[Nu-Nu]

There was some things that ME2 did better, and there was something ME3 did better.

Kaidan and Liara was very well fleshed out in ME3, they were interwoven into the story. The other characters didn't interact with Shepard as much though. Vega really doesn't have a lot of meangiful scenes with Shepard, though the boxing scene was great. I just wish the other characters interacted a lot more with Shepard.

I did like the fact that the characters interacted with one another, it was hilarious hearing some of the jokes that were flying between them. I like that they didn't stay in one place and they did normal stuff with Shepard on Citadel. I loved drunk Tali scene. Loved the fact that Kaidan admits that some people find him and his intergrity annoying, a little easter eggs for people who know that some people don't like him.

There weren't as many interesting characters on your ship as ME2. I saw Diana Allers as one of the most pointless characters ever, they could have easily have fleshed out another ME2 character instead of her. Would have loved to have Jack or Miranda instead of her.

ME2 also had a variety of different type of squadmates, was disappointed there was no Krogan squadmate. I thought Wrex would have come back onboard, or at the very least Grunt.

[Knightly_BW]

With out ME2's build up, ME3 couldn't be what it is now. Most of emotional moments based on ME2 squad and Cerberus. If you disagree kill your key squadies (Mordin, Thane, Grunt, Miranda, Jack, Tali and Legion) on ME2 and see how empty game will feel. I played with a save Mordin, Thane and Grunt didn't survive SM and game was a big let down.


As I see ME3 don't have a real ending yet, I think both games goes too well together.

If I have to point out something ME2 did better is replayability. Suicide Mission alone is a reason to replay the game to tailor your save.

[LordNige]

If they took the number of weapons, weapon modding, the rep system and the enhanced skill tree's out of ME3 and added it into ME2 then I think It would be an almost perfect game. ME3 did a lot of things right but I feel, as a whole package, ME2 was slightly better.

[philippe willaume]

I think the companions are better handled in ME3.
Story wise if was a tad different so comparison is hard but I would put them on the par

Combat
you could have a more tactic approach in ME2 but it was more like a rolling fun fair shooting and ME3 is more a like an late80 shooter. Neither is especially great but I prefer ME2 style

That being said, the way the ending was handled in ME2 was quite clever, and by my sig it is quite clear that I did find ME3 ending stunning.

[Kajan451]

DarkHod wrote...

 Regardless of the awful endings in ME3, I thought ME2 was superior in so many other ways.

Nah. ME2 unfortunately suffers from the problem that each companion mission, either to recruit them or the loyality part feels out of place for the larger story.

But the end of ME2 was ten times better. I would have liked it if they had extended the development time for ME2 up until the release of ME3, and merged the two games... ending with the Suicide Mission, this time including even Liara and Ash/Kaidan.

And instead of killing the human reaper you basically do that to blow them up just as they make the transit. I could imagine instead of the base, Shepard to undergo a suicide mission to place some giant bomb on the mass relay. Destroying it and thus stranding the Reapers in the system for a couple thousand years, as they have to fly a couple thousand lightyears to the next Mass Relay system.

By the time they had arrived they had been prepared.

Something along the lines. In that case the Recruitment Missions from ME2 wouldn't have seemed as out of place as they did.

Overall... i have to admit, ME2 was the better game, just not superior. ME3 makes a lot of bonus points for being much closer in feel to ME1... and up until the end (which spoils about everything and bends you over after cheapshoting you in an attempt to take you hard and dirty from behind against your will), ME3 delivers, in my opinion, the more unified experiance. Besides ME3 feels like a real transition was going on in the Universe.


I can't believe how much the End spoiled this game, considering if the end had been providing closure and a sense of accomplishment i would probably laude the game.


The game has the equivalent of your lover turning you on and then, when you finally want to get going to the jucy parts, it gets up and gets dressed, wishing you a good day while it asks you to leave your money on the bedstand when you leave for an ending.

[Crypto109]

By far MS2 ending was better my friend

[Arkitekt]

Me2 is awesome, but people are still too butthurt to admit that ME3 is even awesomier than ME2.

So they don't.

[Edje Edgar]

Mass effect 1 still has by far the best story out of all 3. Sure it's combat wasn't too awesome, but it never bugged me. If the whole series had a story as awesome as 1, I would've gladly accepted the slightly less interesting combat. Without a freaking doubt.

Modifié par Edje Edgar, 19 mars 2012 - 11:56 .

[SmellyMetal]

Mass Effect 2 is probably my favourite game of all times. I hear you.

[Punk4Real]

I loved the 12 squad members we had in ME2....apparently we had 6 this time round to focus on deeper relations between them....what a load of bull.

[Zaalbar]

I liked Me3 better for more focused story and sense of hopelessness. The scope of the reaper threat was just staggering. But Me2 had a build up to a better ending, for example, everything I did in me2 from planet scanning, upgrading the ship to loyalty quest played into an epic conclusion.

Everything in Me3 built up to a M.Night Shyamalan nonsensical conclusion completely boycotting every choice made previously and making war assets, allies gathered a pointless waist of a 35hr experience which is a shame because everything leading up to the end was simply great.

So I would rate Me2 over Me3 for the fact that it had a great build up to a satisfying conclusion where every choice made mattered.