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[daem3an]

I've been following these great game diaries on fidgit. Mostly he has had only good things to say about the game, but today the author doesn't seem too happy about the somewhat dodgy storage situation. I'm not really bothered by it, and I'm guessing some people prefer the inventory the way it is... thoughts?  Is he overreacting?

It would be great to hear opinions from people who are already playing (and please try to be civil).

[gewthenKartoga]

Haven't played yet until steam unlocks the game, but my impressions is that in any RPG of any type there is inventory problems. Baldur's gate I&2 and Neverwinter Nights 1&2 did not provide a solution to the inventory storage problem. Oblivion and Fallout 3 certainly do solve the inventory storage problem. I would think by now it would be built into any RPG game. Having to pay for it extra is a bit dumb even though with the Warden's Keep you get more than just inventory storage. I'd say of that $7 no more than 50 cents went into the inventory storage component.



That being said, someone could easily mod the camps to include storage chests( I presume) So it's a matter of waiting for a free solution, which is usually one of the costs for something free.

[Shadow_Viper]

It's been said many times that the Warden's Keep storage feature will not be needed for most people and that the inventory is large enough.

[dramek]

Dodgy? why because DLC content isn't free by default? absolutely ridiculous. Don't want it don't buy it nothing to complain about.

[Shadow_Viper]

It has been said many times that Warden's Keep's storage feature will not be required and most people will not need it. The inventory seems plenty big enough.

[Xitan]

I was wondering about this myself. Seemed like a very important thing to put into a DLC. The fact that the game has DLC on day one feels like a rip off in and of itself.

[Ifandbut01]

I also enjoyed the diaries there until today. The author acted like the only thing you got from Warden's Keep was extra storage space, and that is just plane FALSE. You get 2-5 hours of extra story along with new spells and abilities. That alone is worth the $7, the storage space is a nice bonus.

[Murdoc the Mad]

He complains that the backpack expansions cost in game money and he also apparently never sells a single item. Clearly that means it's a scam that they're not giving away Warden's Keep for free.



What a whiny, self-entitled writer.

[Jayross]

I read those journals, they are pretty funny and give me a good insight on the game, I think that is something he is just a bit frustrated by, but unless you have something against buying Wardens Keep (heh, I already have it downloaded on my Xbox) then I don't think it will be much of a problem.

[Mike Laidlaw]

Well, you could argue that if he never sells any items it might explain why he is so worried about money to buy backpacks. Personally, I almost never use the Warden's Keep storage. I rarely run more than 50% of my inventory full, since I just sell off whenever I leave dungeons. I just like the money-clinky sounds!

[Flamin Jesus]

He does explain why it isn't, 60 slots really isn't that much, if at some point you have 10 types of potions, a few different runes and different circumstancial items that you either can't or don't want to equip or switch out right now, you can easily fill up most of that. Not to mention that I'm more inclined to believe someone who actually played the game and points out a flaw (Including the words "it seems enough until you play) than guesstimations.



And I didn't quite get that line where he complains that the DLC is not free, can you point me to that? I only got the parts where he complains that a fix for what he feels is a flaw in the game (And remembering all the times I've had to juggle inventory in RPGs, I'm inclined to agree with him) is only available with the DLC.

[kevlarcardhouse]

Tom Chick is an excellent writer, no doubt about it. But he's also very opinionated, has some odd opinions (his favourite RTS of last year was EndWar for crying out loud) and he always exaggerates when there's something he doesn't like about a game. I would take his comments with a grain of salt.  And as pointed out above, picking up every worthless trinket in the game then complaining about a lack of storage space seems absurd.

Also, I think the whining is kind of overdone. For starters, having limited inventory space is the standard for all RPGs I can think of. In addition, I've never seen a single preview or review that mentions a storage issue causing a problem with a game, not a single sentence. Nor have I seen a single post or thread of someone saying they hoped there would be some kind of permanent storage option before the features of Warden's Keep was fully explained. So I find it rather suspicious that only after it was described as being part of this DLC did all of the sudden people have a problem with it not being in the original game.

Modifié par kevlarcardhouse, 03 novembre 2009 - 03:00 .

[ITSSEXYTIME]

Well I'm getting the DDE so it's not extra money out of my pocket.



Really, I don't think the storage is game-breaking. Especially considering that some lovely modder will likely give you infinite slots within a week. In mass effect I got annoyed by the 150 item warning so I just edited some .ini files and voila, infinite storage.

[irinotecan]

gewthenKartoga wrote...

 Baldur's gate I&2 and Neverwinter Nights 1&2 did not provide a solution to the inventory storage problem.

Nobody did what I did, throw stuff you didn't want to sell (but didn't want to keep in your inventory) into a random chest at a somewhat central location?  Also NWN does have an inventory solution, the magic pouches and bags of holding.  For the NWN 1 OC, I purchased every last one from every merchant, that gave me plenty of inventory storage.

I was assuming you could do the same with DA:O.  (at least, the "store it in some random chest because monsters never loot them" part)

[Flamin Jesus]

Something's seriously wonky with the forums today, posts keep disappearing and re-appearing -.-

[daem3an]

This is the first 'review' (if you can call it that) where I've read this particular take on the Warden's Keep DLC, and yes, it seems a little extreme. As I said, I'm not bothered by it, I'll be buying it as soon as the game arrives.

I was more wondering if people shared his frustration with the 60-item inventory though, as I tend to be a bit of a packrat (and I consider that my problem, not Bioware's). Seriously, are those backpacks really that expensive? Generally money isn't much of an issue in rpgs, usually the opposite. A few pricey items here and there actually gives some purpose to collecting all that loot in the first place.

Modifié par daem3an, 03 novembre 2009 - 03:20 .

[Pansyrocker]

Is the Warden's Keep going to be the only way to be a blood mage as well?

[Shadow_Viper]

Yes, my double post above is a victim of the POS forums(and I can't edit either of them). The original Bioware forums were much better.

[Ub3r_]

i guess he could mod the game so he had a bigger inventory no?



crying over spilled milk imo

[Korgaah]

gewthenKartoga wrote...

Haven't played yet until steam unlocks the game, but my impressions is that in any RPG of any type there is inventory problems. Baldur's gate I&2 and Neverwinter Nights 1&2 did not provide a solution to the inventory storage problem. Oblivion and Fallout 3 certainly do solve the inventory storage problem. I would think by now it would be built into any RPG game. Having to pay for it extra is a bit dumb even though with the Warden's Keep you get more than just inventory storage. I'd say of that $7 no more than 50 cents went into the inventory storage component.

That being said, someone could easily mod the camps to include storage chests( I presume) So it's a matter of waiting for a free solution, which is usually one of the costs for something free.

Ah sir...*shakes head sadly* That is where you are WRONG WRONG WRONG WROONNNNG.. NWN 2 had Greater Magic bag AND bag of Holding... in addition to having three party members... the 284 slots of storage JUST IN the Greater magic bag and Bag of holding should tide even the most voracious packrat to store all their items.

[Ub3r_]

storm in a teacup, just mod your inventory bigger, no?

[VaxiusStorn]

Not really turned off by it myself. It isn't like Warden's Keep is just an expansion to your inventory at a 7 dollar price tag. It does have enough content to validate a 7 dollar price tag. Would it have been nice to have more inventory room in the game? Sure, but I am use to buying premium modules for NWN so buying a module for this won't bother me a bit. Playing a game with limited inventory wont really bother me either.

[daem3an]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Well, you could argue that if he never sells any items it might explain why he is so worried about money to buy backpacks. Personally, I almost never use the Warden's Keep storage. I rarely run more than 50% of my inventory full, since I just sell off whenever I leave dungeons. I just like the money-clinky sounds!

This is far too logical.

[daem3an]

argh.

Modifié par daem3an, 03 novembre 2009 - 03:45 .

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It was mentioned that there was a way to upgrade inventory slots to 120 and 60 is just the start out inventory slots.