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[StrawberryRainPop]

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He says is that we are haters with a hive mind, and that the ending is clever, even though he never says why.

Go see his review...and if you want his 2 ME3 WTF vlogs which answers NOTHING.

AS ALWAYS if you go to his channel try to remain CIVIL.


Heres the review: 

Here his 2 "vlogs" about ME3

No. 1 : 
No. 2:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gljArC4ShR0&list=UUgkdXat9eF4egIZBp0TE0IQ&index=2&feature=plcp

Do you guys agree with him? If you do i want to know WHY you think this is a clever ending. Honestly, not trolling, i am happy for you if you enjoy the ending.

And good luck trying to get a response from him. He only replys to the dumb comments that dont disprove his opinions, like Jessica Chobot being in the game or lesbian sex.

He will seemingly ignore you if you state legitimate reasons...

Either way, i cant reply to him anymore or state any reasons since he blocked me, i guess its partially my fault for being too agressive, but man do i hate it when i write long lists of reasons and what i think to be facts, and he just gives me a one liner without any reasons...

Still, as i said, being mad doesnt help the cause, be polite, dont be too aggressive and keep stating your opinions politely.





Some of the video responses on this topic, plus some links to reasons why ME3's ending is bad in case you havent seen them. Show them support if you want! 


Mass Effects 3 Ending is Poorly Done:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltn2JgbXxGw&feature=watch_response


Angry Joe top 10 reasons:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M0Cf864P7E


Jerermy Jahns why ME3 ending sucks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H_A7SeawU4&feature=related

Modifié par StrawberryRainPop, 19 mars 2012 - 07:06 .

[-Area51-Silent]

I do think its clever...I also think its only 50% done! The end to the story of humanity vs. the reapers is done! thats good, and the ending is good for that (even though really there is only 1 and should be a couple more, but thats another story). The problem here is that this game was built with 2 layers, first was Shepard vs. the reapers, and the other was a character driven story which followed Shepard and the backstories and relationships he built with the people he interacted with.

That said, we got not enough in the ending of closing plot holes that usually are closed in an epilogue, as well as some more information about the (still living) crew mates, friends and lives that shepard has been involved in after such a period of time. I suppose having not really enough ending for the character driven part is really the sticking point for a lot of people.

[StrawberryRainPop]

but he says the ending brings CLOSURE?

HE CLAIMS IT BRINGS CLOSURE WITH A 1 HOUR CUTSCENE?

Thats just blatant lying.

[RagingCeltik]

 If Mass Effect endings are clever, then so are these:

If Lord of the Rings ended like Mass Effect 3

If Ghostbusters ended like Mass Effect 3 

[beefghost]

Haha.

[pistolols]

The ending was clever to me because Shepard's final moments are a microcosm of the entire game. Three choices that all ultimately achieve the same thing, just slightly different. That is how the majority of the games is played out. Conversation choices that often achieve the same thing, but with a different attitude. So I absolutely loved it. To me it was brilliant.

Many people are criticizing the lack of difference in the cutscenes between the three choices. But that is actually what makes it so cool. Replaying the end and choosing something different, and you get to see the subtle differences based on your decision. For example if you chose destroy, you will note that EDI does not emerge from the Normandy at the end (because you killed her, you jerk). And with synthesis Joker emerges clearly sporting some new tech under his skin. That's all the final "jungle planet" scene was meant to achieve.. a simple way to show the outcome of your decision. Could it have been better and more thorough? Sure. But ultimately it's a video game and i feel people are nit picking the Joker escape way too much.

People want to talk about closure... for me, the last little moment between Anderson and Shepard was all the closure i needed.  They did an amazing job with that.  Very heartfelt and genuine.

Modifié par pistolols, 19 mars 2012 - 12:32 .

[VAIOMANIAC]

Freaking coward he refuses to even debate his opinions he also makes no reason for why he thought the endings were good.

Anybody with common sense can see through that he is nothing but a troll.

[StrawberryRainPop]

pistolols wrote...

The ending was clever to me because Shepard's final moments are a microcosm of the entire game. Three choices that all ultimately achieve the same thing, just slightly different. That is how the majority of the games is played out. Conversation choices that often achieve the same thing, but with a different attitude. So I absolutely loved it. To me it was brilliant.

Many people are criticizing the lack of difference in the cutscenes between the three choices. But that is actually what makes it so cool. Replaying the end and choosing something different, and you get to see the subtle differences based on your decision. For example if you chose destroy, you will note that EDI does not emerge from the Normandy at the end (because you killed her, you jerk). And with synthesis Joker emerges clearly sporting some new tech under his skin. That's all the final "jungle planet" scene was meant to achieve.. a simple way to show the outcome of your decision. Could it have been better and more thurough? Sure. But ultimately it's a video game and i feel people are nit picking the Joker escape way too much.

People want to talk about closure... for me, the last little moment between Anderson and Shepard was all the closure i needed.  They did an amazing job with that.  Very heartfelt and genuine.

Overreacting? The only reason is joker?
Rofl no.....

You dont even know about the massive plot holes? Here 2 quick videos for you to watch


Jeremyjahns video


Angry Joes Video



Jokers escape is ONE of the many reasons. Those 2 videos cover the main points, but there a lot more.

[StrawberryRainPop]

VAIOMANIAC wrote...

Freaking coward he refuses to even debate his opinions he also makes no reason for why he thought the endings were good.

Anybody with common sense can see through that he is nothing but a troll.

exactly...and he calls me a troll along with his fanboys saying good review. He literally ONLY replies to people with comments stroking his own ego and ignore EVERYONE ELSE.

[Adanu]

SO now anyone who liked the overall theme of the ending is a troll? Really helping your cause people.

[StrawberryRainPop]

Adanu wrote...

SO now anyone who liked the overall theme of the ending is a troll? Really helping your cause people.

nope. The fact that he disagrees, and calls us trolls for hating the ending, (in his Mass Effect WTF videos) and the fact that he refuses to even acknowlege our points. If he asks for our opinions and doesnt even bother to respond to them, and calls us trolls, damn right i'm gonna call him a troll.

[EmGo]

 Clever? Sure thing. Yeah. As all of the space magic.

Where are mermaids?

[VAIOMANIAC]

Adanu wrote...

SO now anyone who liked the overall theme of the ending is a troll? Really helping your cause people.

Not at all but he calls us a bunch hiveminds and makes no reason for why he thinks the endings are clever, I would be happy to discuss it rationally with him for why I disagree but he refuses to even respond except to his own fanbase.

I have talked with people who liked the endings and had civil discussions about their reason for liking it and my reasons for not liking it.

This guy just flames the people who don´t like it and makes no reason for why he liked the ending in other words TROLL.

Modifié par VAIOMANIAC, 19 mars 2012 - 12:41 .

[StrawberryRainPop]

VAIOMANIAC wrote...

Adanu wrote...

SO now anyone who liked the overall theme of the ending is a troll? Really helping your cause people.

Not at all but he calls us a bunch hiveminds and makes no reason for why he thinks the endings are clever, I would be happy to discuss it rationally with him for why I disagree but he refuses to even respond except to his own fanbase.

I have talked with people who liked the endings and had civil discussions about their reason for liking it and my reasons for not liking it.

This guy just flames the people who don´t like it and makes no reason for why he liked the ending in other words TROLL.

Exactly! Thank you!

[Sparse]

They made us play a character who was tasked in ME1 with saving the Mass Effect Galaxy, reinforced that in ME2 and then gave us an ending where it was totally impossible to do so.

It's certainly unusual, but I don't think that 'clever' is the right word for it.

[MassFrank]

At my work when we call writing "clever" it is generally a criticism, suggesting that the author is trying to demonstrate how smart they are over letting the story just happen.

In that regard, I would consider ME3's ending, clever.

Modifié par MassFrank, 19 mars 2012 - 01:22 .

[RedWulfi]

I respect everyone's opinions on the endings. But saying that everyone else is wrong is just... ignorant.

Modifié par AndersIsLush, 19 mars 2012 - 01:25 .

[Iwillbeback]

Sounds like an idiot of massive portion.

[GoblinSapper]

Nerdbaiting is a common tactic, ignore it.

[Deithmarez]

Come on, guys...the ending -was- clever...when it was used in Deus Ex.

[Stalker]

"Clever"? Yeah sure, it's so freakin' artistic and symbolic isn't it? We are just too close-minded to understand this high state of art...

Modifié par Mr Massakka, 19 mars 2012 - 01:31 .

[Lancane]

Clever piece of literary garbage, if I wrote such a piece of bile my publisher would drop me.

[Su13perfitz]

pistolols wrote...

The ending was clever to me because Shepard's final moments are a microcosm of the entire game. Three choices that all ultimately achieve the same thing, just slightly different. That is how the majority of the games is played out. Conversation choices that often achieve the same thing, but with a different attitude. So I absolutely loved it. To me it was brilliant.

Many people are criticizing the lack of difference in the cutscenes between the three choices. But that is actually what makes it so cool. Replaying the end and choosing something different, and you get to see the subtle differences based on your decision. For example if you chose destroy, you will note that EDI does not emerge from the Normandy at the end (because you killed her, you jerk). And with synthesis Joker emerges clearly sporting some new tech under his skin. That's all the final "jungle planet" scene was meant to achieve.. a simple way to show the outcome of your decision. Could it have been better and more thorough? Sure. But ultimately it's a video game and i feel people are nit picking the Joker escape way too much.

People want to talk about closure... for me, the last little moment between Anderson and Shepard was all the closure i needed.  They did an amazing job with that.  Very heartfelt and genuine.

It actually has a greaty deal more problem then one plot hole. These two articles will help you understand the many problems with the endings. Not saying you should agree with me but I do believe you aren't grasping what the crux of the issue is.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10022779/1

www.themetagames.com/2012/03/why-you-enjoy-art-and-one-problem-with.html

[Storenumber9]

Sounds like a guy who thinks he knows what he's talking about.

You get that a lot with internet reviewers.