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[Diablos2525]

I've been seeing a lot of people like the endings of Mass effect 3. I have to wonder though, are they really big fans of the series or have they just picked up the latest one and put "action mode" or whatever on. Because the ending makes no sense... at all, and goes against the lore established by previous mass effect games and dlc. Are these people just ****s, or simply ignorant? Every time they say they like the ending they never give a reason why. Is it the fact that it was ripped straight from Deus Ex 1. Or the fact that it creates 10 plotholes, or the fact that it goes against the whole purpose of the series where you collect forces to stop the Reapers only to make the collection of those forces pointless since we all get 98% the same ending.

I am seriously so confused, how can people be so stupid? Have they not finished the game?

EDIT: I'm wondering if all the people who finished the game first were mostly series fans, whereas now we are seeing a bunch of first time fans finishing the game weeks later?

Modifié par Diablos2525, 19 mars 2012 - 01:00 .

[Captain Shakespeare]

Because people that don't support the ending have simmered down a bit, maybe? It does seem as if things have calmed down a bit...

[kunzite]

I wouldnt call people stupid, just because they liked the endings. People have differing opinions, and their opinion is just as valid as yours, or as mine, or as someone elses. No wonder people think we're whining.

[nomoredruggs]

Why not?

And yes, I wouldn't call them stupid for liking the endings, one could equally say we're stupid for not liking them....

As for why, I don't know, maybe they interpret them in a way that is satisfying to them.

[Qutayba]

Let people who liked the endings like the endings. They have as much right to be here as we do. Some of them are even civil and intelligent, so give them credit where credit is due and don't flame.

[shurikenmanta]

Well, let's face it, what happens at the end has a certain element of grave sacrifice about it no matter what option you pick. Some people can enjoy that in a philosophical sort of way - save the galaxy but have to destroy galactic civilization to do it.

It's a bit silly to call people stupid for enjoying it when you don't. I hate Twilight, but I ruefully have to admit some fairly smart people I know enjoy it.

[GreyhameBioware]

Probably because there's less people going on about how the ending sucks due to them just not feeling the need to say it again.

And they are perfectly willing to like it.  I can understand the appeal in some ways, since there are some interesting elements.  For me, it's not that the endings are bad its that the endings don't fit the game.

Modifié par GreyhameBioware, 19 mars 2012 - 12:38 .

[Adugan]

*insert Bioware drone and shill comment here*

Edit: LOL short form of Bioware drone is censored.

Modifié par Adugan, 19 mars 2012 - 12:37 .

[Cirreus]

The general mass (no pun) of average joes are finishing up the game. They likely don't have the committment of the series some of us do & finishing up Mass Effect is just another check box off the list of things to do. For me (and I'm sure many others) Mass Effect's appeal is in the replays ... lots of them. I don't think that is the case with the average consumer.

[Nurane]

Diablos2525 wrote...
I am seriously so confused, how can people be so stupid? Have they not finished the game?

Don't personally think it's a matter of anyone's intellect. But if you were happy with the game, you might not feel the urge to come here immediately and announce it. You might be cheerfully playing through another Shep, or reliving your favourite moments.

Whereas people who are unsatisfied would be more likely to come here and complain.

[Captain Shakespeare]

"Heretics say one is less than two, Geth say two is less than 3.  Both are correct."

Modifié par Captain Shakespeare, 19 mars 2012 - 12:41 .

[Sundance31us]

kunzite wrote...

I wouldnt call people stupid, just because they liked the endings. People have differing opinions, and their opinion is just as valid as yours, or as mine, or as someone elses. No wonder people think we're whining.

This.

[Kraykan82]

I am a massive, MASSIVE fan of the series, and I loved the ending.

It was thought provoking, unexpected, and has led to some really interesting discussion between my friends and I as to how we interpreted it.

What is really fascinating is how differently everyone perceives it's meaning.

On a side note I do think however, think that it is possible that the whole god child experience was indoctrination. And the 3 options you are presented with are a test.

I also can't help but feel this was planned all along, with the intention of expanding on it with DLC.

Unfortunately - I don't think EA / Bioware had any idea how bad the response would be, and have now put themselves in a really bad position with many of its fans.

If I'm right, and they intend to release DLC to expand the ending - and indeed if it was planned all along - anything other than releasing it for free will look like a cheap get um hooked tactic to milk people for more money.

[tmsolberg]

I think the main difference between the "haters" and the "likers" is this;
"Ending likers" just play the game for the action. No time to think about stuff, just play through and go back to #insert any COD-title here".
"Ending haters" reflect on what they are experiencing, read the codex, play the game with lore in mind. "Ending haters" take a part in the wonderful world.

Thats what I think, anyway.


Hold the line!

PS. I have been a huge Bioware fan and I really enjoy the ME series. But if this isn't fixed I really don't think I'll buy more Bioware titles... Tragic really.

Modifié par tmsolberg, 19 mars 2012 - 12:44 .

[Rogue Eagle]

Well initially I was wondering what all the fuss was about with the ending.

Then I thought on it, and now I'm starting to get angry that they think us fools they can throw any old tripe at, no matter how illogical or contradictory it may be. The more i think about the ending the more things don't make sense.

And this isn't 'open ended' in the good way. I appreciate a good mind fudge but this was just stupid.

[Kamagawa]

Diablos2525 wrote...

I've been seeing a lot of people like the endings of Mass effect 3. I have to wonder though, are they really big fans of the series or have they just picked up the latest one and put "action mode" or whatever on. Because the ending makes no sense... at all, and goes against the lore established by previous mass effect games and dlc. Are these people just ****s, or simply ignorant? Every time they say they like the ending they never give a reason why. Is it the fact that it was ripped straight from Deus Ex 1. Or the fact that it creates 10 plotholes, or the fact that it goes against the whole purpose of the series where you collect forces to stop the Reapers only to make the collection of those forces pointless since we all get 98% the same ending.

I am seriously so confused, how can people be so stupid? Have they not finished the game?

BringBackNihlus wrote...

I don't understand it either.
They go on about how "artistic" or "thought-provoking" it is, but they
never expound on it. I sometimes wonder if it's people being contrary
just to be contrary.

Honestly, I can't believe anyone who loves
the Mass Effect series and has played through Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2
and Mass Effect 3 could be okay with this.

It is very simple...

They saw the comments people are/were making, which caused them to expect the ending to be worse than it was.

This happens alot and can be notices with any cr*ppy story over time.

You hear bad reports, expect it to be worse than what it is and will, as a result, experience an ending that is better than what you were expecting.

Tha opposite is also true, if you expect something to be better than what it is, you will be disappointed no matter how good/bad it really is.

Modifié par Kamagawa, 19 mars 2012 - 12:44 .

[Adrian_Shephard]

Bioware loyalist, drones, indoctrination, and/or these are the kind people who would spend $50,000 for paintings painted by a Monkey because they think that some splats here and there on a paper is considered art. So the crappy ending from an intelligent logical point view would suck and looks like a child just made it up or worse, the artistic illogical point of view thinks the ending is amazing because it looked pretty.;

Lol just being mean

[Armass81]

I understand the reapers motivations, the basic idea behind it. I even get the catalyst, tough it should have explained itself better. What I dont get is the synthesis green space magic, Normandy running away, all the squadmates that were in London suddenly aboard it now and crashing on some alien planet and Biowares decision of not having any closure or explanation on the characters and species and their futures. Just some stargazer grandpa telling his kid about the legend of "the shepherd" on some unknown planet at some unknown point in the future. That is bad.

Also I dont get why they changed it so mass relays are destroyed in every ending. Control and synthesis should spare them as they seemingly did in the leaked script version. Also in leaked script the catalyst thing was explained better.

Modifié par Armass81, 19 mars 2012 - 12:51 .

[CavScout]

Diablos2525 wrote...

I've been seeing a lot of people like the endings of Mass effect 3. I have to wonder though, are they really big fans of the series or have they just picked up the latest one and put "action mode" or whatever on. Because the ending makes no sense... at all, and goes against the lore established by previous mass effect games and dlc. Are these people just ****s, or simply ignorant? Every time they say they like the ending they never give a reason why. Is it the fact that it was ripped straight from Deus Ex 1. Or the fact that it creates 10 plotholes, or the fact that it goes against the whole purpose of the series where you collect forces to stop the Reapers only to make the collection of those forces pointless since we all get 98% the same ending.

I am seriously so confused, how can people be so stupid? Have they not finished the game?

Nothing like entitlement fan rage to concoct the notion that if you don't agree with their hatred of the game's ending you must be stupid or some other pejorative.

[punkenjunki3]

GreyhameBioware wrote...

Probably because there's less people going on about how the ending sucks due to them just not feeling the need to say it again.

This.

Ive said my piece in some of the larger threads on the issue, before this weekend I never posted in these forums for the 2 years I held my account. Now im on it every day checking. But im not saying my discontent with the endings over and over again. IF it comes to it I will simply vote with my feet if they cant read and understand whats been said. 

Plus as there are people all over the world who dislike the way the game ended then the international elements (of which I am part of) are now into their working time or general weekday business. Though because my weekend was reserved for Me3 playthroughs and I couldnt face it I got to get ahead on my work instead....so at least thats a benefit. People still at work will be waiting for an update however and they will be checking later today.

[Comguard2]

The rage needs some hours to develop.

[Militarized]

They just happen to be popping up while they're starting their PR campaign >.>

I'm sure some of them honestly liked it but... most of them that did didn't seem to play ME1 and ME2 or they seemed to be more of the action player, not really delving into the world and caring about it.

They mostly just go "Oh that was a deep ending" without a thought about the rest of the questions asked through out the entire game and that they don't line up with the ending philosophy.

[Skyline45]

Idk what your talking about. Have you seen the Mass Effect FB page? People are still lining up to voice their outrage at the endings. It's just less apparent here on the BSN, because of the sticky threads the devs posted.

EDIT: My bad *Ending. Theres no reason to use the plural use of that word in refferance to this game ^.^

Modifié par Skyline45, 19 mars 2012 - 12:51 .

[Syrellaris]

Diablos2525 wrote...

I've been seeing a lot of people like the endings of Mass effect 3. I have to wonder though, are they really big fans of the series or have they just picked up the latest one and put "action mode" or whatever on. Because the ending makes no sense... at all, and goes against the lore established by previous mass effect games and dlc. Are these people just ****s, or simply ignorant? Every time they say they like the ending they never give a reason why. Is it the fact that it was ripped straight from Deus Ex 1. Or the fact that it creates 10 plotholes, or the fact that it goes against the whole purpose of the series where you collect forces to stop the Reapers only to make the collection of those forces pointless since we all get 98% the same ending.

I am seriously so confused, how can people be so stupid? Have they not finished the game?

Right, calling people stupid, ignorant or anything else, because they disagree with you? You know, it is people like you that cause your "movement" to be placed in a bad day light.