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[intimations]

Question: is there any chance of help getting the DAO toolkit to work to create new DA2 playable content? I completely understand your moving on, myself, and am excited for DA3 whenever it comes, but as I assume that will be some time coming I would love the ability to noodle on DA2 mods.

And thank you for fixing the Legacy banter bugs! *goes to finally get it*

[William91]

If we get a DA3, there is only one thing I would ask for. An ACTUAL ending. We want to know what the hell happens to our character and the other npcs that affect his/her life! I still dont know what happened to: The Hero of Neverwinter, Revan, The Warden, Shepard and now, Hawke. And I dont want to read a novel, a comic, or wear a t-shirt to know if they are alive, dead or made into zombies by cybernetic monkeys, I want to PLAY it, I want the game to tell me that.

[Sherbet Lemon]

I have nothing really constructive to contribute except to say that I'm really looking forward to what comes next.  I loved Dragon Age Origins and Dragon Age 2.  Thanks for the update.

jlb524 wrote...

Are we done with The Warden's story too? Because I surely hope so.

I share this same sentiment and agree wholeheartedly.  Also love your signature jlb524! 

[Archer]

Mark Darrah wrote...

We will try to bring some closure to Hawke's story but likely not in a playable form. Originally we had planned to do an expansion pack but had to stop to focus on what we are working on now.

Please Please Please make sure it makes sense though. I would hate to find out Hawke had been killed by a suddenly introduced at the last minute omnipotent entity that controls all the darkspawn or mages or templars, or whatever. Thats been done elsewhere and it doesnt work

On a serious note i would like to see the RPG elements return. DAO got this spot on, DA2 not so much. Dont get me wrong i am one of the ones who liked DA2 i just missed the more "hardcore" style rpg moments.

In general my wish list would have-

Voiced Protagonist! Please stick with this. Really adds to the imersion when your shouting someone down or making a joke. My silent Warden standing next to Anora or Alistair before the seige of Denerim just didnt seem right. In fact i thought it was out of character for them to make that speach myself.

Combat- i actually like DA2 combat for the most part. Loose the drop in waves of mobs but definatley keep the current pace we saw with DA2. I find mages a lot more enjoyable in DA2 with the new system. DAO mages standing rooted to the spot slowly firing spells of i wouldnt like to see come back

Please let us customize companion appearance again. FULLY. I dont want to equip armour on a companion and have them retain their "cannon" look so to speak. Half the fun in DAO was giving my crew the look that appealed to me.

Toolset please  Ties in with the above. I must be running about 40 plus mods for DAO. I have my Warden and Alistair dressed as Wardens, I have Leliana in her sacred ashes outfit, Morigan in Flemeths DA2 robes etc. Makes it feel like my adventure.

[vengerturtle]

Sad about this, but still excited to see what comes next!

[lanmao]

Zoedoll wrote...

Baelyn wrote...

I loved Origins, but to me its biggest downfall was the combat that felt like it crawled. DA2 really stepped up the game (although I think the enemies exploding often was a bit over the top and could do without.)

Give us the depth of story and customization from Origins, with the fast paced, but also strategic combat of DA2. That would be a winner in my book.

I second this! I liked how fast and dramatic the combat was in DA2 even if it did sometimes get a little silly, being a rogue was the most fun ever and giving mages the ability to use their staffs in melee combat was a great idea. They looked silly just waving them in DA:O when they ran out of mana. It's definitely one of the positives of DA2 versus DA:O, and as Baelyn says being able to mix the best of each together would make the next game amazing

This pretty much sums up all of my feelings about a new dragon age project.

I hope you guys have fun on your new project!

Modifié par lanmao, 19 mars 2012 - 05:29 .

[Lawliet89]

It's a little disappointing to learn that an expansion was cancelled (I still like my Hawke!) but I'm hopeful to see what the next big thing is.

[Lord Gremlin]

After abysmal DA2 I won't preorder or buy DA3 early, but if fan feedback will be positive, especially about choice and ending, I may change my mind.

[Blacklash93]

After ME3 (which spoiled the enitre franchise for me) I'm done with Bioware until further notice. DA2 was a huge missed opportunity that will probably haunt the series for a while for me as well.

Didn't care for Hawke, but not seeing his/her story concluded in a good way is yet another nail in the coffin for my interest in this company. Another good opportunity wasted and another plot that could have been interesting missed.

I'd love for DA3 to change my mind, but as of now I feel that this company is hopeless in delivering the quality entertainment it used to be famous for; the quality entertainment I used to enjoy so much.

[randomcheeses]

There was one thing I missed in DA2: A male love interest that was not a big angsty bucket of man-pain who required the PC to 'fix' them in some way. 'Cause Bioware, that is not nearly as attractive to women as you seem to think it is.

[Lakhi]

Glad to see that you're coming to the consumers and asking them what they want before you make any major decisions this time around. It's a pretty damn good marketing strategy I've heard =P

In any case, I'm going to split my thoughts into two sections, lore and gameplay.

Lore:

Dragon Age, at least Origins, was pure goldl. There was a RICH fleshed out world with much to explore and so many characters and places to work with. I was really looking forward to a dragon age two founded on the same principles. However, Dragon age II eschewed a lot of that and tried to localize the lore experience and in doing so really prevented much of the world around it from being fleshed out. I really just wanted to get OUT of Kirkwall and into the world at large (the DA map is just MASSIVE). You managed to do that with legacy to an extent and with Mark of the assassin, but it just wasn't enough in my opinion. I'd like to explore these grand cathedrals, the halls of these wardens, walk around amongst the slaves in Tevintir and SEE the epic battles. There has to be SCALE to the things we see/hear.

Control over the story is another point that keeps getting brought up. I'm no doubt sure that you're aware of the whole Leandra Hawke fiasco and how people perceive the final DA II battle, so I'll let that point rest. As for the subject of companions, I feel like the concept of characters having a base appearance works, but we should be able to change their outfits and whatnot with some degree of impunity. My major gripe with companions in DA II was just not being able to talk to them, they had great banter but would only bother talking to you if they were in party during quest dialogue or during cutscenes, that just offed me a lot. Companions are a fantastic lens through which the lore of the world should be fleshed out if the player talks to them.


So, in short, this is what I feel that a potential sequel to the series needs to do with regard to story:
- Effectively tie together the book lore and ingame lore and give players CONTROL over how the endings flesh out. We don't want or need screwballs.
- Provide the means to explore the dragon age world more fully: It's a huge place and we've only touched a tiny corner of the map.
- More answers/closure (Keeping certain questions unanswered leads to a situation where people are just left scratching their heads, like the ending of two recent bioware games)
- Branching Story (a la the witcher 2's roche/iorveth route), having the game play out almost linearly (which is what DAII did) really made the game seem too... bland in a sense. Even origins was a culprit of this. While there needs to be progression in a story, there also has to be potential for the story to take on new leaves and move down different paths towards new endings.

Gameplay:

Mechanically, origins worked but was clunky and yet beautiful, in many regards, for the console playerbase. DA II alleviated most of these concerns at the expense of what I would like to call *immersive* gameplay. The talent tree system for DA II was a notable step forwards, but in doing so really detracted from what I'll call "realism" in the gameplay. I, and many others that I've spoken to, have said there's a sweet spot between the two that can be hit, we're just not quite there yet.

The thing that made me buy origins was an old combat demo which I can't find the link to. However, it was in the tower of ishal when the player (who was on a mage) lit an area that was filled with tar on fire. These mechanics, along with the things players could "find" like shattering blows, were oversimplified in DA II to percentage based modifiers which I felt detracted from the overall immersiveness of gameplay.

Another point I'd like to make is in tandem with my lore point is the whole concept of immersion. DA:O and Awakening did phenomenal jobs at this, I legitimately felt like I was in a new area whenever I went to a new area and while I know that the fanbase has beaten the reused areas point with a stick, I'll say it again: It needs to NEVER happen again. We need to have an environment as well as encounters that make us feel like we are in those places. MoTA was pretty good about this though so I'll let it slide.


So, let's list out what (In my opinion) a DA sequel needs in terms of mechanical gameplay:
- Fluid, but tactical combat, almost a blend of what DAO and DAII did. Less action, but not a whole lot less.
- More exploration with abilities (a la combos in DAO), less binary combos and more *interesting* ones.
- Immersion: Every place in the game needs it's own map and it has to FEEL like we're out there, doing something. No more area reusage

Modifié par Lakhi, 19 mars 2012 - 05:30 .

[advocacy]

For certain there will be a Dragon Age III.  But my question is this: how can you connect the events that occurred in Dragon Age: Origins with the next chapter of the series?

[Arem1771]

I enjoyed Dragon Age II myself, even if it wasn't on the same massive scale as Dragon Age: Origins. It was quite the unusual story to make an RPG from, but hey, it kind of shows how adaptable the RPG genre really is.

I am looking forward to seeing what the future holds for Dragon Age.

[DaVeO52]

My wife and I both love the Dragon Age franchise. We both will be eagerly looking towards it's future be it in books, comics, movies, television or most importantly games! Keep up the great work and always keep evolving and pushing the boundaries of our imagination.

Just no swooping.

[Covalent09]

With DA2 and the endings of ME3, I am not buying another game from you, unless it gets better, really better.

[SteffiSyndrom]

DAO and DA2 were simply great. I loved every second of it and I am very excited for DA3! Never loved a game more than the DA series. Keep up the great work!

[EmperorKarino]

 good to hear, dragonage origins, awakening, and 2 have been awesome, im really looking forward to the next installment of the series.

[Asianwaste]

Mark Darrah wrote...

We will try to bring some closure to Hawke's story but likely not in a playable form. Originally we had planned to do an expansion pack but had to stop to focus on what we are working on now.

That is really disapointing.  In fact I'm pretty damn sore about it.
DA2 may not have had the best implementation.  Might not be Bioware's greatest but it was still pretty decent and overall fun to play.  You guys took a chance at improving the formula and for the most part did a decent job at it but if I had to fault you on some things, it would be that you've neglected other areas.

The game was still fun to play and that's what counts.  I'm chalking this post up as support for one last DLC pack.  Ignore the haters, this game still has a fanbase and you shouldn't forget that.

[jlb524]

Village Idiot wrote...

I have nothing really constructive to contribute except to say that I'm really looking forward to what comes next.  I loved Dragon Age Origins and Dragon Age 2.  Thanks for the update.

jlb524 wrote...

Are we done with The Warden's story too? Because I surely hope so.

I share this same sentiment and agree wholeheartedly.  Also love your signature jlb524! 

Gracias!

[virtualinsanity]

As long as Varric, Isabella, Merril and Leliana are companions i am sure it will work.

[TheLP]

CRISIS1717 wrote...

Sorry Mark, I am entirely done with Dragon Age after DA2 threw the successful formula established in DAO out the window and I do not plan on buying DA3 either.

yeah... i will certainly buy DA3 if i comes out, but if its a blunder like the 2nd one? then im done with this franchise... please if nothing else: fix landscapes...

[Teleraine]

I for one would still be interested in DA3, but yes I regard personally that DA2 was a misstep from an otherwise Brilliant company (ME3 not counted)

I understand the desire to move away from world saving games and to focus more on a singular character what I found disappointing was that in the end the story was very linear, railroaded to an extent and nothing could really be changed from the desired plotline. The Illusion of choice that Bioware games had enjoyed upto DA2 had in my view massively fractured by the end and there were a few inconsistencies in that ending as well as a lack of choice.

I became a fan of Bioware when it was a maker of incredible RPG games and I find it saddening that the focus of the company has shifted to other genres. I do not begrudge the necessity to diversify but I lament the falling quality of recent releases.

Modifié par Teleraine, 19 mars 2012 - 05:39 .

[Quinnzel]

Well...that sucks.
I was totally jonesing for a DA2 expansion (More Merrill and Varric!) and a conclusion to my BeardHawkes story but now...
*sighs*

[Cathey]

It's sad about no more DLC but I like to think that moving the team to focus on the future means we'll hear about DA3 sooner I can dream

I loved both Origins and DA2 - so i'm really interested in seeing where the games go next.

It would be nice to have a longer game again, I always get longer play times on Origins than DA2. It doesn't have to be longer in the main quest, but give us more optional content. Towns, side quests, etc....

I quite liked the set character looks in DA2, made the characters more unique. If you go that way again in the future, can we equip party members with armour but just have it add the stat bonuses? In DA2 with the huge amount of item dlc, there was so much just getting dusty if Hawke wasn't using it. Special items weren't worth selling due to having no value so it would be nice if I could equip items onto my companions even if it's just a stat bonus and not an appearance change. As long as I can change the way the main character looks, i'm happy.

[Hydralysk]

DA2 was shoddy, but everyone makes mistakes, I gave you the benefit of the doubt (you ARE the guys who made DA:O, ME and ME2 as well), but after this ME3 business I can't have any faith DA3 will be any better.