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[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

I read this a couple of days ago and he does break it down very well. It's actually interesting to see a writer break down a game because they're looking at the same game through a different perspective then say, a reviewer from a game site.

[voteDC]

I think that the reviewer gets exactly what I think about the game better than I do....if that makes sense.

[Ieldra]

voteDC wrote...
I think that the reviewer gets exactly what I think about the game better than I do....if that makes sense.

Makes complete sense. He says in a few paragraphs what it would take me a few pages to say.

[xSTONEYx187x]

Great read. An amazing game, ruined by a terrible ending. I'll have to bookmark that site for future references.

Thanks, Ieldra.

[Pkxm]

I hate to admit this but the ending did kind of screw with my head. ME 1 & 2 (especially the endings) were amazing..and I was expecting some epic ending to 3. My fault for assuming things but yeah, that ending did destroy my dreams. It really did leave me kind of pissed off and thinking wtf? I hope they go with the indoctrination theory, if they decide to do another dlc ending.

[OdanUrr]

Jsxdf wrote...

I hate to admit this but the ending did kind of screw with my head. ME 1 & 2 (especially the endings) were amazing..and I was expecting some epic ending to 3. My fault for assuming things but yeah, that ending did destroy my dreams. It really did leave me kind of pissed off and thinking wtf? I hope they go with the indoctrination theory, if they decide to do another dlc ending.

They won't.

[Shinobu]

Thank you! That was well-written and I agree 100%.

[Ronin1325]

jamesp81 wrote...

You know, this whole thing ME3 has had one positive thing come out of it from my standpoint.

I was starting to believe that the people who demanded a grim ending no matter what were the majority. In my mind, it signaled an end to heroic storytelling and the beginning of a phase of drab and depressing storytelling.

I'm glad to see I was wrong. The reaction to ME3's endings proves my fears were unfounded.

Dark endings are trendy & are now almost the new normal. There are very few committed-closure oriented, heroic endings out there these days. I think they can exist side by side, but gaming companies follow trends like a Jock follows Skirts.

[kato42]

"thing that ruins dreams"

Yeah, that sounds about right.

Modifié par kato42, 20 mars 2012 - 02:52 .

[LiquidLogic2020]

I love how gaming sites are saying the game is art and shouldn't be touched (oh dlc is fine but a broken steel style expansion?! You sicken me!) and then literary sites and magazines and more art focused sites and magazines all point out the horrendous ending. I swear it's like every game "journalist" is simply a desperate faux intellectual living off of ad revenue then declaring they give honest and objective reviews.

[justlogme]

Interesting read thanks

[kbct]

kato42 wrote...

"thing that ruins dreams"

Yeah, that sounds about right.

I like "an utterly brilliant disaster."

[farlander28]

Wow that review was epic. Glad they did that.

[kato42]

LiquidLogic2020 wrote...

I love how gaming sites are saying the game is art and shouldn't be touched (oh dlc is fine but a broken steel style expansion?! You sicken me!) and then literary sites and magazines and more art focused sites and magazines all point out the horrendous ending. I swear it's like every game "journalist" is simply a desperate faux intellectual living off of ad revenue then declaring they give honest and objective reviews.

That's probably a reasonable description of ganer 'journalists'.

[Lunatic LK47]

Ricinator wrote...

 Yes, good review. Free DLC ends or i personally wont by bioware anything ever again.

This. I'm not buying any more BioWare games because of it.

[lebarron]

OP quotes the most eloquent summation of my feelings on the matter. Thanks for sharing the article.

[Han Shot First]

This review deserves to stay at the top of the page. The author is completely spot on about what went so terribly wrong with the endings.

[Headrusher]

Wow...a real review finally. What a relief, and I was beginning to think I was crazy from reading all the glowing 10/10 reviews from the gaming sites.

[Buffy-Summers]

I love a reviewer that actually finishes something and doesnt just mouth off talking points. Good Job California Literary Review. I wished IGN and others had the guts that CLR has shown with this review.

[Ieldra]

Buffy-Summers wrote...
I love a reviewer that actually finishes something and doesnt just mouth off talking points. Good Job California Literary Review. I wished IGN and others had the guts that CLR has shown with this review.

I think you need to have either experience with book reviews, or be somewhat "into" the ME universe to see not just the flaws, but their impact on the player. If you just test ME3 as one game among countless others, you're more likely to put the plot holes off as insignificant and accept Bioware's faux-"profound" experience. Also gaming sites review the game as a game, often disregarding storytelling because they wouldn't recognize good or bad storytelling if you hit them on the head with it. This guy obviously knows what's he talking about when he says ME3 commits storytelling suicide. 

[Uneazy]

ONLY IGN HAS ACCURATE REVIEWS OF GAMES, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DONT ACCEPT BRIBES FOR GOOD REVIEWING.

[Rogue1982]

agree with OP

[Lincoln MuaDib]

The ending was ridiculous. The first 49 hours were JOY exemplified. But the ending? REALLY? Mehhhhhhhhhhhh......

[Ricvenart]

Last quote sentence is a conflicted message.

"It's bad enough..." and "forcing", though reading the next paragraph that isn't quoted he agrees with the movement. But what so bad about a facebook page asking for a new ending, a place for all to go and show thier support, a theory that at least makes us feel somewhat better and a running gag also helping to lighten the mood. And we aren't forcing Bioware, we don't have a collective gun to Biowares collective head, we can't force them to do anything they don't want to do, though if they respect the fans as much as they claim they will think about it, also if they want any truth to the pre release claims and repeated claims that we are part of the development process, but at the end of the day we can't force it, we can just call for it.

[ShaggyWolf]

Calling it the "thing that ruins dreams" is incredibly accurate, because I don't know how I managed to sleep at all the night I beat the game. All I know is, at some point I did, despite laying in bed for hours feeling physically ill the whole time. I was (still am) heartbroken to be honest.

@Lincoln MuaDib, I like that "JOY exemplified." When my preorder got here on the sixth, I played all day, all that night, and all the next day before finally going to sleep. (I had a 4 pack of monsters) I played all the way from the beginning cinematic to just after Rannoch in one sitting. I've never done anything like that before. It was amazing. I was completely in love with the game. As you said, "joy exemplified." Then I woke up the next day and played through til the end. And then the first part of my post happened