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Review calls ME3's ending a "thing that ruins dreams"


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#151
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Oldbones2 wrote...

ME 3 is driving me back into drinking. Very sad.

On the other hand. Now I'm a LOT more fun a parties.


So you're more fun when you drink?Wow dude.....dono what kind of friends you have....

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Artemis_Entrari wrote...
When a lot of these reviews are coming up, talking about just how badly written and conceived the ending is, I can't help but wonder what Hudson/Walters and Co. think.  Do they honestly still think they came up with a great ending?  Are they that arrogant?

I think someone - Mac Walters or Casey Hudson - wanted a certain kind of symbolism and symmetry  in the ending, and in the passion for this vision, consistency, logic and connection to the plot went out of the window. Also they didn't consider the emotional impact of the side effects.

Look at the Synthesis for instance. Had the starchild just said "All intellligent life becomes part organic and part synthetic", then I would've been able to do something with it. But the current phrasing draws on eschatological imagery ("final evolution of life") and suggests, totally against the themes of the trilogy so far, that unification is the solution to the conflict in a weird parallel between reality and dialectics. And that turns the Synthesis from something you can reasonably speculate about into something that appears as if it was deliberately written to make no sense at all. In other words, someone tried to attach symbolism and metaphors where they wouldn't fit, making a total mess of things.

The rest, that was just shoddy work, probably driven by time and resource constraints.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 22 mars 2012 - 11:04 .


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If we do not get the option of a "happy ending" I am most of all sorry for those ME-fans who are sick or otherwise denied a happy life.

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Just finished the game last night.

Firstly I think the ending could have been better (the scenes after the decision) but I also believe that a standard happy ending for this game was not a viable option. It's the reapers; who for how many millennia have wiped out organics as to perform some warped inter galactic form of crowd control. To think that Shepard's decisions could be so powerful as to create the happy ending scenario, I think that would just have been lame and all too familiar to what Hollywood spews out every year.

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Good article, not sure I agree.

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This might be why.

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Breakdown Boy wrote...
Firstly I think the ending could have been better (the scenes after the decision) but I also believe that a standard happy ending for this game was not a viable option. It's the reapers; who for how many millennia have wiped out organics as to perform some warped inter galactic form of crowd control. To think that Shepard's decisions could be so powerful as to create the happy ending scenario, I think that would just have been lame and all too familiar to what Hollywood spews out every year.

If you read the opinions here and the reviews, you'll notice that the lack of a happy ending was always a very minor concern compared to the fact that the ending destroys *everything* we are invested in, the inconsisencies, the fact that it destroys closure, makes no sense in several different ways etc.. Sure, I want a happy end, but I can live with Shepard's death. On the other hand, that it leaves me in an emotional void, without catharsis, closure or hope for anything I care about, that's not acceptable.

Here's another article that supports changing the endings:

http://www.gamerevol...-mass-effect-3-

Modifié par Ieldra2, 23 mars 2012 - 07:12 .


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I think its because the reviewer is a fan, cause if you read Ray's statement he implies that journalist aren't really fans of Bioware, it made me chuckle ^_^

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I'm not a fan of the ME saga, but until yesterday I was thinking about buyng the third game. I was watching a full playthrough series on youtube and I was thinking: "This game is awesome, I want to play it".

Then I saw the ending.
I don't want to argue about why it sucks, but well... IT SUCKS BIG TIME. Happy me that I haven't spent my money on the game yet.

I am in a privileged position: i can still "vote with my wallet", and my vote is simple. I'm not buying this game because of its ending.

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Yet another article about the endings:

ME3 Ending Deconstruction.

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it is

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Rahelron wrote...
I am in a privileged position: i can still "vote with my wallet", and my vote is simple. I'm not buying this game because of its ending.

Then you have the rare opportunity to wait until they release new ending-related content, whatever that may be. I just hope it doesn't make things worse.

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I'll just add a new ending comment to this, again from a literary viewpoint:

http://jmstevenson.w...-mass-effect-3/


The deeper you look into this, the worse it becomes. I'm coming up from my emotional low after finishing ME3 (it took two weeks), only to find that if you think about the ending in the more detached manner, it becomes even worse.

(eh, in the end he jumps on the I:T. bandwagon. I shouldn't have posted this.)

Modifié par Ieldra2, 25 mars 2012 - 12:01 .


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Ieldra2 wrote...

Rahelron wrote...
I am in a privileged position: i can still "vote with my wallet", and my vote is simple. I'm not buying this game because of its ending.

Then you have the rare opportunity to wait until they release new ending-related content, whatever that may be. I just hope it doesn't make things worse.


Yeah, and I hope this DLC will not be something that I'll have to pay for. Bioware owes his fans a real ending, and the ending is one of the core parts of a story, not a "bonus content", something optional that you have to pay for if you want it.