Modifié par ME3, 19 mars 2012 - 04:44 .
Does a Ending decide how good a game is?
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ME3
, mars 19 2012 04:43
#1
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:43
Im Tired of seeing people hating on ME3 Because of its ending.
#2
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:45
No, but it frames it.
#3
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:45
> Does a Ending decide how good a game is?
Yes.
Yes.
#4
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:47
The ending does not decide on how good a game is...only when it is not part of its feature.
Too bad for ME3, story IS a part of its feature.
So now if you'll excuse me, I'll boot up my Shogun: Total War 2. Now that's a game that can get away with a really crappy story.
Too bad for ME3, story IS a part of its feature.
So now if you'll excuse me, I'll boot up my Shogun: Total War 2. Now that's a game that can get away with a really crappy story.
#5
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:47
Not at all, it's completely irrational to judge an entire game based on a bad ending.
#6
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:47
if you spend more than 500 hours ( I have almost 700+ on mass effect 1, 2 and 3 combined ) then yes, the ending is a big part.
Because you are not judging mass effect 3 alone, you are judging the series.
Because you are not judging mass effect 3 alone, you are judging the series.
#7
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:47
I say the ending of a game determines the overall tone and feeling a gamer is left with when the credits roll, but does little to influence the overall quality of the game itself. We can feel disappointed, we can feel whatever we end up feeling, but the last ten minutes of a game doesn't overall make everything that happened before it worthless or stupid and bad.
#8
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:48
Sadly it would seem that a bad ( or incomplete ) ending can in fact make or break an entire series.
It's like a movie really. If the ending totally debunks the entire rest of the movie I am unlikely to watch that movie again. Oh and I also hate hate hate movies where the main character dies in the end - I always avoid them if I can. Sometimes I see one by accident not being aware of it beforehand - I never watch them more then once.
So yes, the ending matters!
It's like a movie really. If the ending totally debunks the entire rest of the movie I am unlikely to watch that movie again. Oh and I also hate hate hate movies where the main character dies in the end - I always avoid them if I can. Sometimes I see one by accident not being aware of it beforehand - I never watch them more then once.
So yes, the ending matters!
#9
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:49
The ending should be a conclusion. An ending to your time and money spent.
In the case of Mass Effect it should give closure on Shepard but more importantly on everyone you met. See the consequences of your choices.
Since it does neither of these things and only manages to confuse and frankly just makes little to no sense with the amount of plotholes and oversights it currently has, it certainly kills the game for a large part.
In the case of Mass Effect it should give closure on Shepard but more importantly on everyone you met. See the consequences of your choices.
Since it does neither of these things and only manages to confuse and frankly just makes little to no sense with the amount of plotholes and oversights it currently has, it certainly kills the game for a large part.
#10
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:50
It's a bad game regardless of the ending brah...
#11
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:50
"You're only as good as your last performance", as the saying goes. I'd say the conclusion is pretty important, and if poorly executed it can undo a lot of good work.
#12
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:51
It does when its a story based game that promises to reflect your choices.
#13
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:51
Yes it does, it leaves a big impression on your mind
#14
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:51
Nope.
This was the most emotional ME i played, if i were a sensitive person surely i would cried.
Things that makes a game sucks are the bad customer support.
This was the most emotional ME i played, if i were a sensitive person surely i would cried.
Things that makes a game sucks are the bad customer support.
#15
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:52
In a trilogy that lasted for 5 years and had 100+ hours for each playthrough, the ending has high value.
This game was supposed to be all about the conclusion of your decisions. Closure of your own, interactive story.
In the end, we stood there with more questions than we have ever had before, after a pre-rendered ending which was the same for everyone. With that ending, they missed the point of their own game.
The ending of a definitely closed trilogy is without question the most important part of it.
They messed the conclusion up = point of ME3 messed up = game messed up
This game was supposed to be all about the conclusion of your decisions. Closure of your own, interactive story.
In the end, we stood there with more questions than we have ever had before, after a pre-rendered ending which was the same for everyone. With that ending, they missed the point of their own game.
The ending of a definitely closed trilogy is without question the most important part of it.
They messed the conclusion up = point of ME3 messed up = game messed up
#16
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:52
Yes it does
#17
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:52
The ending can decide how good a STORY is, and Mass Effect is all about the story. The gameplay might have caught up a little bit in the last 2 installments, but the decisions and relationships we forge in these games trump the third person combat.
So yes, the ending contributes to how good a game Mass Effect 3 is. Maybe not Call of Duty: Modern Black Ops 7.
So yes, the ending contributes to how good a game Mass Effect 3 is. Maybe not Call of Duty: Modern Black Ops 7.
#18
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:53
definitly, the journey was great. but the destination was a public toilet. now don't get me wrong, i have loved bioware's games for years.. i was loving ME3.. then the ending.. what more can i say really?
#19
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:54
Witcher 2 is releasing an enhanced edition for free just because the developers thought that the epilogue wasn't clear and to add to that they are adding new content, so it does help you frame your perception about how powerful a conclusion is
#20
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:55
Considering it destroyed any urge I had to replay the series... Despite already plotting my next go around before I started that horrid ten minutes, Yeah pretty important.
#21
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:55
It doesn't decide it, but it does factor in to the overall quality.
#22
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:55
When the ending makes the entire journey seem pointless, yes. When the entire journey is leading up to the destination and the destination is utter rubbish, then the journey itself was wasted.
Modifié par Killer3000ad, 19 mars 2012 - 04:55 .
#23
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:56
The game is amazing. The ending's not. The thing is, this ending is the last thing you're going to see from Shepard's saga... It's the end of a trilogy... It has great impact. I don't hate ME3 and I encourage people to play it, but those endings...
That's the feeling, actually.-^
Killer3000ad wrote...
When the ending makes the entire
journey seem pointless, yes. When the entire journey is leading up to
the destination and the destination is utter rubbish, then the journey
itself was wasted.
That's the feeling, actually.-^
Modifié par Erethrian, 19 mars 2012 - 04:57 .
#24
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:57
Considering it was supposed to end a trilogy, yeah it matters a lot.
#25
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:57
It's apparent through many stories (Books, Films, Games, etc...) that the writer(s) knowing where they want to end up makes a huge impact on the quality of the ending. There are of course, many other factors, but how much that ending matters is ultimately a subjective experience. I'd say that most ME3 players wanted one that made them feel the 90+hrs they had put into the game, all the choices they had made through that, would be reflected in the final sequence & epilogue. I certainly fall into that camp, and it can be argued on many valid points that ME3 failed. Some may disagree, and that is perfectly fine. It should not be a crime to like the ending. I wish those who feel the same way I do would stop treating 'likers' as if that were the case. It's illogical & immature.
On the other hand, those who do like the ending should accept that many (most?) don't, and understand there are reasonable reasons for feeling that way. As I said, in the end it comes down to personal taste in how much an ending matters.
On the other hand, those who do like the ending should accept that many (most?) don't, and understand there are reasonable reasons for feeling that way. As I said, in the end it comes down to personal taste in how much an ending matters.





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