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[Turtlicious]

I'm kinda Jealous you like the ending.

[LolaLei]

I'm happy that OP feels that way, he's as entitled to his opinions as we are.

[Renew81]

More power to you , your'e lucky to get the closure you wanted..

unfortunatly and i think its save to say thats the majority did not
and is still hopeing for closure.

[Big Push]

majormajormmajor wrote...

Notice how all these pro-ending posts use the same language? "Thought-provoking", "memorable", "endless possibility."

Almost as if they had no originality of their own, or were working off a template...

It's almost as if they wanted their ending to have LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE!

[Kastrenzo]

I'll agree with the notion that everyone's entitled with their opinion.

Problem is a vast majority are unhappy or unsatisfied with the ending.
A lot of people are pretty furious too, so this poor guy kind of gets a target on his head for disagreeing with those angry majority

[CaptainZaysh]

Siven80 wrote...

Problem with most of the ending, is that your guessing at answers as the game gave none.

I was really expecting to see a Dragon Age or Fallout style Powerpoint slideshow at the end explaining how the krogan became the galaxy's best ballerinas etc.  It amazed me that they didn't.  I think it's way more exciting that they didn't.

Siven80 wrote...
The whole ending from when your hit by the beam is so confusing, ridden with plotholes and nonsensical events (how do my teamates on earth get onto the normandy) that i can see no way to logically defend the ending.

That's the one thing I think was a bit strangely executed.  You can still head canon it, but it would have been smoother if those guys just were locked out of the final scene I think.  Maybe it's a bug!

[Podge 90]

Claiming objectivity improves the ending is exactly the problem; it ignores EVERYTHING that comes before it. Why have a game allow you to make choices, and then say 'nah you're looking at it through subjective eyes, forget that, just look at everyone dying, it's beautiful'.

[Shallyah]

I envy people who like the ending, and I am being completely honest. I wouldn't feel so hreatbroken and betrayed about it all and probably wouldn't have even come to the internet to see if other people were thinking like me.

Respect the OP's view and opinion completely, but it does not work for me, sadly. And believe me, I wish it did.

[Killer3000ad]

Yet another "I LOVE THE ENDING" thread that glosses over the elephant-sized plotholes.

Modifié par Killer3000ad, 19 mars 2012 - 05:19 .

[Quietness]

Speculation is fine in a trilogy, but not at the end of the series in my eyes. The ending needs to wrap everything up and provide a conclusion to the story lines. Without this the viewer will eventually be left with a bad taste in their mouth due to the complete lack of catharsis provided in the current ending.

Choices dont matter, galatic society is dead, and in the "best" ending where shepard is "alive" is a major stretch considering she/he did the following:

Hit by reaper beam
Shot (sorry your barriers are down, you did get shot)
Shot
Blown Up
Blown Up Again
Planet fall
Landed on Rebar

In the end, too much gaping holes and badness.

I would like to say that im glad you were able to find enjoyment, and i am a little jealous.

Modifié par Quietness, 19 mars 2012 - 05:13 .

[Sparse]

CaptainZaysh wrote...
I guess what impressed and surprised me the most is how thought-provoking the ending was.  I'm left wondering what galactic society will look like when we make it back out to the stars again.

You see that is my pet hate.

I wanted to wonder about what would happen in Mass Effect 2 after I finished Mass Effect 1

I wanted to wonder about what would happen in Mass Effect 3 after I finished Mass Effect 2

I did not at any point want to wonder what happened after the series has finished. It has ended, it should all be explained satisfactorily.

If I want to use my imagination and go off on flights of fancy I will play an open-world sandbox rpg, not a story and character driven rpg.

I'm not picking on the threadstarter here, he/she is perfectly entitled to whatever opinion they like, but the point where Bioware decided that the ending wouldn't lock things down is where it all started to go wrong in my eyes.

[sargon1986]

THE OP IS A BIOWARE / EA EMPLOYEE. DO NOT POST ANYTHING IN THIS THREAD, IGNORE THESE FUTILE ATTEMPT OF PACIFYING THE RETAKE ME3 ENDING GROUP.

 HOLD THE LINE. 

[AzaZeLgaming]

Read this document and I will guarantee that you will not like the ending after you have been exposed to the Light of Logic.

https://docs.google....?pli=1&sle=true

[Ainyan42]

Glad you liked it. Can you tell me how it was thought-provoking?

The first thoughts my ending provoked for me were: My Shepard would never give in without a fight and WTF is Kaidan doing there, he was with me?, followed by a barely coherent: Joker said he'd NEVER leave me again. Then came the burst of outrage at that they would dare pander for my money after all that.

So yeah, I really am curious to know what thoughts were provoked by the ending for you, because so far I've seen a ton of people who like the ending, who call it 'thought-provoking' and say there are no plot holes, but no one's ever actually explained /why/ they felt the ending was good.

[nikola8]

The OP is right- the complaints against the ending are as subjective as the reasons to like it. This ISN"T a cut and dry debate, as much as those on either side believe that there is only one right answer.

And I personally agree with the OP, the ending was very good and was the perfect culmination to the series.

[FRancium]

don't attack people that liked the ending, people.
They are entitled to their opinion, just as we are to ours.

In the end I would argue more people still hated it, and Bioware changing the ending in some way won't affect OP at all.

[Samzo77]

Depends on what you look at. The scenery in ME3 was better than in either ME2 or ME 1, but the conversationwheel was MUCH better in ME2, and frankly so were the paragon/renegade interrupts that actually came when moral choices were to be made. Not <insert paragon> to shake Wrex' fist like on Tuchanka. The quest tracking was god-awful in ME3, and the various little bugs like getting stuck in the cockpit of the Normandy.

And that's just a small bug, not going even to mention game-ending bugs where your game crashes in the DLC mission after a cutscene. 

To recap: Scenery better, cooler fights etc in ME3, but in return the dialoguewheel leaves much to be desired, 90% of the time you don't have more than 2 options whenever it even pops up. And don't get me started even on crew-interaction, compared to ME2 it's atrocious.

These are great points. I think I really did judge it on the fights, scenery, and just how intense it felt throughout. The quest tracking was a problem. I still think I like the game as a whole better than the other two though. Eh, must just be my opinion.

[Cloaking_Thane]

Personally I finished last night and am still queasy about it, and I'm ignoring important work because of it....trying to understand what happened

[CaptainZaysh]

Quietness wrote...

Choices dont matter, galatic society is dead, and in the "best" ending where shepard is "alive" is a major stretch ...

Wait a second.  Choices did matter.  I bet the way my Shepard stopped the Reapers is different from the way your Shepard did it.

Galactic society is changed forever post the relay network, but it's not dead.  It's just different.  Instead of the Citadel Council running everything centrally, we'll have smaller pockets.  Local decisions.  Expeditions and exploration rather than zipping between the stars.

And I thought Femshep's little gasp at the end was amazing.  I choose to believe she survived.  :-)

[Eulalia Danae]

It was indeed thought-provoking. Particularly the ideology of hate with star hitler's premise we were forced to accept. A premise that also went against the theme of the entire game until the last five minutes.

Yes, bioware, lets either enslave, destroy, or forcibly remove difference...because we just can't get along.

[Joolazoo]

CaptainZaysh wrote...

The Lightspeaker wrote...

I've actually explained extensively multiple times why it was an objectively bad ending but the california literary review take on it is perhaps the best summary:

*snip*

So forgive me if I'm not going to be as happy about it as you apparently are.

Sorry, but those criticisms are almost entirely subjective.  (You can tell by all the adjectives used).  I get that this guy from California didn't like it, but that doesn't make it objectively bad.

The one objective criticism in there seems to be the reuse of art assets, which I have no comment on since I didn't notice it.  Everything else is just the guy saying he didn't like what he got, which is fine, but he's not right just because he writes for a literary website.

please don't tell me you're one of the people who doesn't believe anythings objective unless it's a statistic..

[CaptainZaysh]

sargon1986 wrote...

THE OP IS A BIOWARE / EA EMPLOYEE. DO NOT POST ANYTHING IN THIS THREAD, IGNORE THESE FUTILE ATTEMPT OF PACIFYING THE RETAKE ME3 ENDING GROUP.

 HOLD THE LINE. 

Um, no I'm not.  Been here longer than you have, actually, mate.

[ek5000]

sargon1986 wrote...

THE OP IS A BIOWARE / EA EMPLOYEE. DO NOT POST ANYTHING IN THIS THREAD, IGNORE THESE FUTILE ATTEMPT OF PACIFYING THE RETAKE ME3 ENDING GROUP.

 HOLD THE LINE. 

That was uncalled for.

No harm in discussing peoples opinions, wether you believe them to be "plants" or not.

[SlyTF1]

I don't see how you can like something that contradicts itself in the same second. The "Star Child" created synthetics to kill organics so that other synthetics wouldn't kill them. The mass relays exploded, and if they explode, they destroy the entire system. Yet there was still a random planet the Normany crashed on.

[Quietness]

CaptainZaysh wrote...

Quietness wrote...

Choices dont matter, galatic society is dead, and in the "best" ending where shepard is "alive" is a major stretch ...

Wait a second.  Choices did matter.  I bet the way my Shepard stopped the Reapers is different from the way your Shepard did it.

Galactic society is changed forever post the relay network, but it's not dead.  It's just different.  Instead of the Citadel Council running everything centrally, we'll have smaller pockets.  Local decisions.  Expeditions and exploration rather than zipping between the stars.

And I thought Femshep's little gasp at the end was amazing.  I choose to believe she survived.  :-)

I bet your final version is 5% different from every other ending^^. And im glad you are able to ignore all that she "survived" (seriously this is a major stretch that would put even Rasputin to shame).

I am also glad you are able to overlook the canon set forth in arival. Yes they did blow up, you can watch it happening from the galatic map. The only epxlination you can give for it didnt is honestly .

edit: Also overlooking the mass genocide inside the Sol System as all your forces fight/eat eachother to survive eventually all dying of starvation.

Modifié par Quietness, 19 mars 2012 - 05:20 .