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[bleetman]

Tibiilicious wrote...
but "other DA opportunities came up" and prevented the expansion ever happening.'

I assumed "opportunities" is a fancy way of saying "EA wouldn't fund it".

[Travie]

We can bet that it lacked enough fan interest to make a profit.

Simple as that. The other DLC probably didn't make much either.

[tek427]

Aww how dissapointing. I was looking foward to a DAII expansion to tie up all of those loose ends. Also, I've grown attached to my Hawkes and I would've liked to go through another installment with him/her.

I hope this other "DA opportunity" is worth it.

[Fast Jimmy]

bleetman wrote...

Tibiilicious wrote...
but "other DA opportunities came up" and prevented the expansion ever happening.'

I assumed "opportunities" is a fancy way of saying "EA wouldn't fund it".

Who can blame them? Try selling the idea to spend loads of man hours and money to try and convince fans you've "fixed" their complaints for a game that sold much less than many in the gaming community expected, a year after the fact, when most people have sold and/or unistalled the required copy. Awakening sold less than 400,000 copies, despite following DA:O's release by only roughly six months.

An Exalted March Expansion, which would be for a game that is a year later, sold less than DAO did and would have more to prove to a large segment of fans than Awakenings ever did after DAO. I tis simple math. It would be a goodwill gesture, not a money making one.

So they (EA or Bioware or both) said they'd rather just pour all of that creative mojo and funding into DA3 and let sleeping dogs lie. Its good business sense. And its good story-telling - let's all forget this "Hawke" business ever happened. We'll get a synopsis of how this new Mage/Templar war broke out and I can just imagine this game has a 2 in front of it instead of a 3. Because Hawke's journey will amount to squat - the way it should have been.

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 20 mars 2012 - 01:07 .

[jlb524]

No more Jo Wyatt Hawke *sniffles*

Why???

[Das Tentakel]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
What's Origin?

Its a DRM program that PC players have to use to validate that the game they are playing is a genuine copy and not pirated.
It is fairly easily circumvented, from what I understand, so it doesn't stop hackers. And it collects all sorts of information about your gaming and computer usage, from what I understand. So many people view it as a thinly veiled attempt at prying into your personal computing habits to better market games and the such from you, disguised as a secuirty measure to prevent pirated software. EA is trending towards making it mandatory for all of their PC games, in their infinite, marketting-centric wisdom.

And, as you may have gathered by now, widely (though not universally) hated by PC gamers.
One of those systems that encourage hacking, rather than actually preventing it.
Origin is almost certainly costing EA PC sales:(

Ah, well, whom the Gods want to destroy...

[Mr.House]

I guess the current trend in Bioware games is not to give the players character closure.

[robotnist]

i want to read what others thought about this, but i had to post this now and say- i am completely disappointed and gobsmacked as to an x-pack being scrapped... theres nothing cooler for me than a boxed expansion for my favorite RPG world...

bioware needs to buck up a bit, grow some balls, and start developing games they want to play, which was the motto in past eras... not try to create games they think others will "like"...

please bioware, make great RPGs. thats all you have ever done, how has that changed???

[bleetman]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

*snippity snip*

This is all well and good, sure, but given their hand in the botched mess DA2 arrived in to begin with, I can't help but be resentful when it's followed by scaling back followup projects. Usually to nothing.

They've been doing it for decades. I have to run out of patience some time.

(Not saying it's necessarily the case here, mind)

Modifié par bleetman, 20 mars 2012 - 01:30 .

[Mclouvins]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

bleetman wrote...

Tibiilicious wrote...
but "other DA opportunities came up" and prevented the expansion ever happening.'

I assumed "opportunities" is a fancy way of saying "EA wouldn't fund it".

Who can blame them? Try selling the idea to spend loads of man hours and money to try and convince fans you've "fixed" their complaints for a game that sold much less than many in the gaming community expected, a year after the fact, when most people have sold and/or unistalled the required copy. Awakening sold less than 400,000 copies, despite following DA:O's release by only roughly six months.

An Exalted March Expansion, which would be for a game that is a year later, sold less than DAO did and would have more to prove to a large segment of fans than Awakenings ever did after DAO. I tis simple math. It would be a goodwill gesture, not a money making one.

So they (EA or Bioware or both) said they'd rather just pour all of that creative mojo and funding into DA3 and let sleeping dogs lie. Its good business sense. And its good story-telling - let's all forget this "Hawke" business ever happened. We'll get a synopsis of how this new Mage/Templar war broke out and I can just imagine this game has a 2 in front of it instead of a 3. Because Hawke's journey will amount to squat - the way it should have been.

You really can't, Legacy and MOTA were probably barometers that didn't measure all that well. What I'm most curious about is how far it got before being scrapped. I wouldn't be surprised though if the general plan was more or less the basis for Asunder with the obvious character changes as it's simpler to write a book than develop a game while still dealing with some of the major events. Obviously we don't know anything about DA3 at this time but for them to do anything to advance the Thedas narrative in the planned xpac if would either have to relegated to peripheral media or else dealt with in the next installment. A bummer for sure though.

[ohnotherancor]

i really wanted that expansion

Oh well. Looking forward to DA 3, then.

[Shadowlit_Rogue]

I'm glad they're moving on to other DA ventures. I know people enjoyed DA2, but the game needed more than just DLC to fix it. I'm hoping they channel that effort into making DA3 a better game than its predecessor.

[OdanUrr]

So... Bioware did decide to jump ship on DA2 after all. I guess we'll never know what happens to Hawke then.

[Morroian]

Mclouvins wrote...

You really can't, Legacy and MOTA were probably barometers that didn't measure all that well. What I'm most curious about is how far it got before being scrapped. I wouldn't be surprised though if the general plan was more or less the basis for Asunder with the obvious character changes as it's simpler to write a book than develop a game while still dealing with some of the major events. 

They were wearing the exalted march t-shirts after the book would have been finished. IIRC Gaider started talking about the book even before DA2 was released.

[Morroian]

sjpelkessjpeler wrote...

Wait, what? If origin is some kind of spy program does this mean that if you have an Origin account allthough you play a game on a console but is connected to the internet this occurs too?

Its not a spyware program its like Steam and does no more than what Steam does.

[batlin]

Well it loks like BW does listen to fans. Who knew?

[Mark of the Dragon]

While its good to hear that all there attention is on making a better DA game I am also disappointed. I mean a good expansion could have added value to DA2. As it stands we are left with another game where we have no idea what happened to our hero. I at least wanted a DLC to wrap up Hawkes story.

[ev76]

Oh well, as someone who enjoyed da2 and all dlc its sad to see this note. So no expansion pack mean no more dlc?

[ev76]

Man that's depressing if there is no more dlc, hopefully that pax conference will reveal some good news.

[SuicidalBaby]

sjpelkessjpeler wrote...

Morroian wrote...

sjpelkessjpeler wrote...

Wait, what? If origin is some kind of spy program does this mean that if you have an Origin account allthough you play a game on a console but is connected to the internet this occurs too?

Its not a spyware program its like Steam and does no more than what Steam does.

I haven't got a clue what steam is either. I'm like a computer software virgin in that aspect

For the most part it is a merchant platform for almost any game on the market.  A ton of great deals to be found and countless demos all collected in one place.  You can link it with your PSN id.  It's birth was based around the Godfather of all FPS games, Counter-Strike.  Its a cloud based system that allows you to download any game you own from the network on any computer, at any time.  

estimated in 2009 that Steam had a 70% share of the digital distribution market for video games.

[koshiee]

 MAKER NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!