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[Fruxie]

Sorta kinda. I frequent a lot of art websites. Occasionally someone will come along and submit their artwork. They think it is the greatest thing ever, the best they have ever done. However nobody likes it. People criticize it and the artist doesn't understand why. They get upset and defensive because in their mind, it was the best picture ever.

The creative team of ME3 MAY have thought they had made the best story ever and that it was flawless. They are now finding out that it isn't. I imagine that might be rough to take.

Guess I should clarify. Do I feel sorry for the faceless corporate entity that is BioWare? Not so much. For the creative team of ME3? A little.

Modifié par Fruxie, 20 mars 2012 - 12:20 .

[MassEffect762]

EA is cheap for not putting down the dough to make a variety of actual sound and fulfilling endings.. You know the type of endings we've all come to expect from the series.(good,bad,sad,etc,etc)

The person/s who wrote the ending are idiots if they couldn't see this reaction from the next Galaxy away.

[pavi132]

Veggiesofmanycolors wrote...

They worked so hard on Mass Effect 3 and now everyone's being mean to them because of the ending.  Could you imagine what it would be like if all of your fans suddenly turned against you?

I think we need to show our emotional support for Bioware.  Even though we didn't like the ending we need to let them know that we still love and care about them and everybody makes mistakes.

It sure doesn't feel like they worked that hard with their nearly identical endings, multiple stock photos, lack of conversations and conversation choices and technical issues. I'm sure that at least some of them did, but it sure as hell didn't translate to the finished product.

[Impulse and Compulse]

I feel sorry for the employees who came up with the fantastic moments before then.

But anyone responsible for overhyping and lying about the ending, and of course creating the ending itself, gets no sympathy from me.

[bobito64]

Having seen these responses I can no longer support this campaign. Screw you all. You're a bunch of selfish, entitled idiots. Child's Play should refuse the money.

At no point did the developers of this game ever intend anything other than to make it the best they could within the budget and deadlines that they were set. That they weren't able to nail the ending is unfortunate and sad but it sure as hell wasn't intentional.

END OF THE LINE

Modifié par bobito64, 20 mars 2012 - 12:40 .

[Kilshrek]

pavi132 wrote...

It sure doesn't feel like they worked that hard with their nearly identical endings, multiple stock photos, lack of conversations and conversation choices and technical issues. I'm sure that at least some of them did, but it sure as hell didn't translate to the finished product.

Be fair, please.

Some of the conversations in the game were the finest in the series.

Some of the moments in the game were truly heartwarming, or heartbreaking.

The animations was touch and go in some areas, but overall they were great.

The quests could have done better, but story quests were awesome.

The game certainly doesn't deserve to be dragged down on account of the endings, but it is a problem of Bioware's own making.

[Wowlock]

They brought it onto themselves.... if it was some baseless reason, maybe I would've felt bad.

But basicly this is because of their ''strategy'' that they wanted people '' speculate''....

Well we are speculating allright soo they got what they wanted...maybe not exactly the way they wanted but they can't complain about it after that ending really.

So no, they messed up and they hope it will pass if they wait for a while without any solid response ? I hate to say it but at current situation...they deserve the IRE from their fans...

[LucidStrike]

I feel sorry for Bioware, but I feel more sorry for Shepard and Mass Effect, made to seem pointless in the last 5 minutes. =/

[blacqout]

Cosmar wrote...

Wildhide wrote...

blacqout wrote...

BWGungan wrote...

blacqout wrote...

If i were BioWare i wouldn't worry about it. It's long been known that the Dragon Age and Mass Effect fandom are among the worst in the video gaming world.

This peurile tirade against the ending seems a pretty logical step up from the pathetic hatemail sent to writers and voice actors and the misogny-fueled outbursts over Female Shepard's blonde hair.

Lucky for BioWare, plenty of mentally healthy people, such as myself, like their products too. If one good things comes from the whole debacle, maybe it'll be the negative element within the community finally moving on, leaving a more pleasant one in its wake.

Oh yeah, that's a brilliant idea.  Lets alienate our core fanbase that was with us since Baldur's Gate.

Obviously, a lot of you old timers are unwilling to evolve with the company. They should leave you by the wayside if you're unwilling to grow with them. BioWare are making new fans with their innovations.

Nothing they did was innovative or knew.  They just took random parts from old stories and smashed them together.  Dark, overly philosophical endings have been done many, many, many times.  They are not new, they're actually quite cliche.  The difference is they tend to be done much better, and endings to narratives they actually fit to.

This. Basically it's the Deus Ex ending with a little Matrix-style pseudo-religiosity thrown in. Not original or innovative in the slightest, and left a hell of a lot more questions and plot holes than even the Matrix ending did. 

Sorry blacqout, but you're clearly the "puerile" (might want to double check your spelling before you try using big words. Friendly tip) one here for dismissing a massive amount of dedicated fans, and basically calling us stupid for not blindly accepting such a hackneyed, stale, uninspiring ending. 

Really? You dedicated over half of your post to pointing out a typo? Amazing.

It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that someone, when typing quickly, would get two letters the wrong way round. How about i zone in on your inability to punctuate correctly? "(...words. Friendly tip.)" You should have used a semicolon, not a full stop.

You may wish to learn how to write properly before attempting to correct others in the future.

[mattynutz]

To feel bad for Bioware for their lack of... consideration would be to cancel out all the accolades I lauded them with when they used to make good choices.

Reap what you sew.

[Girlfrakker69]

Kilshrek wrote...

The game certainly doesn't deserve to be dragged down on account of the endings, but it is a problem of Bioware's own making.

The announced definitive ending of any trilogy will reflect upon that trilogy itself. The game can be as awesome as it gets, but a botched ending will take most of awesomeness away.

[QuarianHIV]

I dont know. Will you feel sorry when a billionaire gets a parking ticket?

[TheMerchantMan]

Until they apologize to me, I can't say I feel very sorry for them.

Naturally, I do feel a sort of sympathy one can feel for people in a tight spot, even when it was self-made, I hate to see people raging on them, Threats are especially disgusting. That's not the way to go about this, we live in a civil society.

[blacqout]

blacqout wrote...

Cosmar wrote...

Wildhide wrote...

blacqout wrote...

BWGungan wrote...

blacqout wrote...

If i were BioWare i wouldn't worry about it. It's long been known that the Dragon Age and Mass Effect fandom are among the worst in the video gaming world.

This peurile tirade against the ending seems a pretty logical step up from the pathetic hatemail sent to writers and voice actors and the misogny-fueled outbursts over Female Shepard's blonde hair.

Lucky for BioWare, plenty of mentally healthy people, such as myself, like their products too. If one good things comes from the whole debacle, maybe it'll be the negative element within the community finally moving on, leaving a more pleasant one in its wake.

Oh yeah, that's a brilliant idea.  Lets alienate our core fanbase that was with us since Baldur's Gate.

Obviously, a lot of you old timers are unwilling to evolve with the company. They should leave you by the wayside if you're unwilling to grow with them. BioWare are making new fans with their innovations.

Nothing they did was innovative or knew.  They just took random parts from old stories and smashed them together.  Dark, overly philosophical endings have been done many, many, many times.  They are not new, they're actually quite cliche.  The difference is they tend to be done much better, and endings to narratives they actually fit to.

This. Basically it's the Deus Ex ending with a little Matrix-style pseudo-religiosity thrown in. Not original or innovative in the slightest, and left a hell of a lot more questions and plot holes than even the Matrix ending did. 

Sorry blacqout, but you're clearly the "puerile" (might want to double check your spelling before you try using big words. Friendly tip) one here for dismissing a massive amount of dedicated fans, and basically calling us stupid for not blindly accepting such a hackneyed, stale, uninspiring ending. 

Really? You dedicated over half of your post to pointing out a typo? Amazing.

It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that someone, when typing quickly, would get two letters the wrong way round. How about i zone in on your inability to punctuate correctly? "(...words. Friendly tip.)" You should have used a semicolon, not a full stop.

You may wish to learn how to write properly before attempting to correct others in the future.

Oh, and this might blow your tiny little mind, Cosmar, but Mass Effect 3 is actually a rather long game, and featured several innovations en route to the much talked about final 5 minutes. Most of which served to dilute the traditional role-playing experience somewhat, and are also a bone of contention for much of the fanbase.

Things like the amount of auto-dialogue, only having the one hub world, ambient conversations in which Shepard just chose a side, etc.

Modifié par blacqout, 20 mars 2012 - 09:28 .

[DSGrant]

I'm not sure how to respond to this, other than to say that those at Bioware who worked on this project only to see it going down in flames are only tasting the bitterness that we as fans just gulped down with three games over five years flushed down the toilet in a matter of minutes before our very eyes.

[Nenendrian]

No

[Aetika]

Yes. But that doesn´t change anything.

[linsanity]

remember ME3 had like 10% of the original staff that also worked on ME1, so I feel sorry for the original staff, watching their work and legacy be so brutally butchered.

[aj2070]

No. Casey Hudson tried to make himself into the next Cliff Blizenski (sp?); even going so far as having Blizenski endorse Mass Effect 3. Hudson since has been talking about wanting to give fans an "ending" that they talked about. It worked but not in the "Casey Hudson is a genius" way he expected.

FYI Cliff Blizenski (aka cliffyB) is a (or the) producer at Epic games that was the face of the "Gears of War" franchise.

Modifié par aj2070, 20 mars 2012 - 12:42 .

[locsphere]

Its not that I feel sorry, but I afforded them my trust, which now seems misplaced. They have let this debacle go on long enough. We need a yes or no to the Truth Ending DLC. So we can act accordingly. They made their choices and they were wrong ones. Now we see if they own up to the mistake and fix it. Or continue this vague PR nightmare.

[HWM BlacKnight]

I've always loved the sky boxes mass effect uses so I feel sorry for the people who work on these elements and other visuals, music etc who aren't getting much praise.

The script writing for the ending though.... no I don't feel sorry at all.

[Symolic01]

Well in my opinion video game developers are artists. If a musician releases a new album which disappoints the fans he has to deal with it. The difference to musicians is that they have the chance to change things in their games. The need for that isn't hoped for but it's possible. And now they have the chance to satisfy us, their fans. So i don't feel sorry for them.

[Ben Shep]

I dont feel sorry for them because ME3 is awsome!

[Fuzzfro]

no

[DerpMcDerp]

I doubt they feel sorry for us so why should I feel sorry for them?