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#151
t003

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I feel bad for the employees that had no say with ending.

#152
Brahlis

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No. It's their own fault.

The fact that nobody at Bioware stopped and said, "Wow, this ending is total ****, what are you guys thinking?" is far more troubling to me than anything else.

#153
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Why the hell should we feel sorry for them? They have our money and they're laughing all the way to the bank. They put out what they wanted, without any consideration for what the fans wanted and expected. Considering they're selling a product (this isn't some "gift" they're giving us for free and out of the goodness of their hearts), that is a fatal mistake as well as a show of pure and utter arrogance. If they suffer for it, then they are getting what they deserve.

They jerked our chains, telling us our choices mattered and that we wouldn't get ending "A, B, or C"...only our choices didn't mean squat and we got ending A, B, and C. We poured our money and our time into the games they produced because we trusted them to give us what we wanted and something that was worthy of our time and money. They failed - and chose to fail, on top of it, in the name of being artsy - and are now getting flak for it. So no, no pity from me. If anything, I really hope they don't end up getting rewarded for this crap by people giving in and throwing more money at them for DLC and other games without them first trying to make amends.

#154
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They Promised us a game that we did not get so now that the fans
are dissapointed about it why should we feel sorry ?

i feel sorry for all the people th at did not get the closure they where hoping for.

#155
LombaxWarrior

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Hell no they screwed themselves and now we are fighting back I think that they thought it wouldnt go this far

#156
KarlPilks

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Since Hudson was interviewed in the official xbox magazine saying this.....


"This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the
endings can be a lot more different. At this point we're taking into
account so many decisions that you've made as a player and reflecting a
lot of that stuff. It's not even in any way like the traditional game
endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got
ending A, B, or C.
"It's more like there are some really obvious things that are
different and then lots and lots of smaller things, lots of things about
who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way
down to individual characters. That becomes the state of where you left
your galaxy. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in
them."


.....no, I don't feel sorry for them. 

Modifié par KarlPilks, 19 mars 2012 - 05:52 .


#157
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No. That's like feeling sorry for a robber that gets shot in the knee. They deserve this metaphoric shot.

#158
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Veggiesofmanycolors wrote...

They worked so hard on Mass Effect 3 and now everyone's being mean to them because of the ending.  Could you imagine what it would be like if all of your fans suddenly turned against you?

I think we need to show our emotional support for Bioware.  Even though we didn't like the ending we need to let them know that we still love and care about them and everybody makes mistakes.


Nope.. don't feel sorry one little bit.  I have been litterally physically and mentally sick since the ending.  I dont feel sorry for anyone that has intentionally put me through mental and emotional stress.

#159
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I feel bad for the employees that have to deal with this uproar over the ending, but I can't feel sorry for the company.

#160
Ogedram

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No way.

The wrath was well deserved and in my opinion also very well predictable. I can't belive they didn't see it coming. The endings were miserable, period.

The rest of the game was really brilliant, what makes the ending even more offending.

#161
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No. Not even a bit. Just as they don't feel sorry for what they've done to us faithfull fans. They still think that trashing all the choices you made across 3 games was a good idea...

HOLD THE LINE

#162
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This one feels sorry for them, mainly because no ones paying attention to the superb 99% of the game that came before the ending.

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Since Hudson was interviewed in the official xbox magazine saying this.....


"This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the
endings can be a lot more different. At this point we're taking into
account so many decisions that you've made as a player and reflecting a
lot of that stuff. It's not even in any way like the traditional game
endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got
ending A, B, or C."It's more like there are some really obvious things that are
different and then lots and lots of smaller things, lots of things about
who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way
down to individual characters. That becomes the state of where you left
your galaxy. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in
them."

.....no, I don't feel sorry for them.


Indeed, statements like these are unforgivable considering they knew what the reality was.

#164
someguy1231

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Not in the slightest. They brought this on themselves.

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Menalaos1971 wrote...

I'm sorry but I don't see how they didn't see this coming. Did they not do ANY focus testing to see what the reaction to the ending would be? The game in general is great, but the ending ruins the whole thing.

So, no I don't feel sorry for them. They have only themselves to blame for this disaster.


THIS.

Surely, surely, surely, SURELY they games tested their product? 

In the words of the extra creditz team, "we[gaming industry] test everything else, down to the colours used in packaging". Why not test the game's ending as well?! 

#166
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Hah, hell to the no. They have my money and I won't feel sorry for them ever because ultimately I can't get my money back. Now if they genuinely tried to make an ending that didn't have so many intentional plot holes for the sake of creating speculation then maybe I would a little, but it's clear they wanted all of this to happen, only to realize this isn't the kind of debate you want.

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DaosX

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They did it to themselves and, for that, they deserved it.

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i feel sorry for the devs, QA, artists, etc.

as for the producers, marketing dept, and the like.. not in the slightest. if these guys would have been HONEST with us from the start, they wouldnt be in this position in the first place.

edit:  why do i feel sorry for the devs, QA, artists, etc.. because im sure a lot of them saw this coming.

Modifié par wrdnshprd, 19 mars 2012 - 05:59 .


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RedWulfi

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No. Theyve decided to screw over DA2 as well. As if I wasnt annoyed enough.

#170
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You're all too ready with the word "unforgiveable". They made a mistake, damn it. If they fix it, then all is well.

#171
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BearcatPrideEZF wrote...

No. Just as I don't feel sorry for HItler.

Yes I did just compare Mass Effect 3 to the Holocaust.


Congratulations. Most REVOLTING post on the BSN ever.

I sure hope Bioware sticks to their guns now, people like you do NOT deserve to be catered to.

#172
Nyctyris

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however, I do feel sorry for them in the sense that it sucks to be told people don't like the work you've done, even when it's your fault that you did it wrong.

in fact, I probably feel more sorry for them as a result - it's WORSE when you know the screw up is your own fault.

that doesn't change how I feel about the ending though... I still want it explained, if not changed.

#173
cotheer

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Yeah...NO!
And really can't see a reason why should i/we?

#174
anexanhume

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Yes and no. I view Bioware as a dear friend who got in a bad relationship (EA) that has changed them. On the one hand, I still expect them to act the same as I expect from a friend, and on the other hand, I understand they have pressure from the other side and wish them the best.

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Chuloos wrote...


Nope.. don't feel sorry one little bit.  I have been litterally physically and mentally sick since the ending.  I dont feel sorry for anyone that has intentionally put me through mental and emotional stress.


Wait, WHAT?

Are you friggin' SERIOUS?

It gets more ridiculous every day.