So BioWare is 0 for 3 now I guess?
#76
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:16
#77
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:19
#78
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:20
Didn't really like DA2 that much, it doesn't even compare to what Origins was. By itself it's ok....I guess
Mass Effect 3 is not a bad game by any means. However the ending is the only thing that sticks out in your mind when you finish it, because it's so out of place and terrible. Any emotional investment I had with the series is gone because of the ending. I have no desire to go replay ME3 like I did with ME2 and ME1...Why? Because it's all leads to nothing, choice doesn't matter, and it goes against everything Bioware promised the series would be.
#79
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:20
Dragon Age 2: Loved this freaking game, did it have flaws absolutely, was it incredibly fun again yup. Should it have been it's own game and not a sequel... YUP!. I found enjoyment in most all of the story and development and can not wait for DA3 if there will be one.
Mass Effect 3: Currently playing my 4th time through, can't get enough of it. I can see why people don't like the endings, but why can't people see why some of us do like the endings. ME3 has issues, mine being the MP aspect of it, other than that I wait for DLC and will gladly pay for it.
#80
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:21
#81
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:21
Delduwath Mordion wrote...
I'd say they are 11 for 11 so far (not counting expansions) As much as I disliked the different direction of DA2 and wish the last 15 min of ME3 were a bit different I'd still rank their games way above most other companies' efforts.
I totally agree with you about the games,but the people is disappointing and bioware image right now isn't at the best.I believe other rpg developer(s) companies like bethesda and cd projekt win many fans this year with their games.Maybe it is the better if bioware work and without care about time give us another epic game like dao i trust them until their next release title.
#82
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:22
This dude has it right, opinions are not equal, his however is worth the exact same as everyone else's until he backs it up with some arguments, which he hasn't. Right now his opinion is worth the exact same as everyone else in this thread. However in his hubris he assumes his opinion is worth more than other people's simply due to the fact that it is worth the most to him, a common mistake for people who stain the name of realists everywhere.Zanath wrote...
I know, truth hurts. It's why denial is so common.Obi-Wan Old Ben Kenobi wrote...
Bullsh*t
#83
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:23
time would make the game better but thts not the problem its EA.aekforever wrote...
Delduwath Mordion wrote...
I'd say they are 11 for 11 so far (not counting expansions) As much as I disliked the different direction of DA2 and wish the last 15 min of ME3 were a bit different I'd still rank their games way above most other companies' efforts.
I totally agree with you about the games,but the people is disappointing and bioware image right now isn't at the best.I believe other rpg developer(s) companies like bethesda and cd projekt win many fans this year with their games.Maybe it is the better if bioware work and without care about time give us another epic game like dao i trust them until their next release title.
#84
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:27
DA2 cut corners at every turn and came across as rushed, unpolished, frustrating and incoherent.
ME3 was an absolutely amazing game for 99% of the experience. The ending was NEVER going to be that great because there was no way to defeat the reapers without resorting to a deus ex machina or breaking canon.
#85
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:30
ME3 everything was OK, ending meh
SW:ToR - i come from 7 years play WoW. At first it was great, then noticed less and less that i needed to be in groups to advance through the game. Eventually started just doing single player activities. Crafting in it is a joke, the Auction house barely useable, and combat wise was meh. Got grindy a bit and eventually bored because it was more of a single player RPG than an actual MMO. Sure... u can group with people and all... but it's much faster to advance thru the worlds without waiting 30 mins for a group to form.
As for "Time" yeah
#86
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:31
SWTOR is a great MMO. I do not find the complaints especially valid there.Grellow wrote...
SWTOR.Whole Particle wrote...
I understand the criticism for DA2 and ME3, which game was the third?
Apparently.
Personally I don't hate it, but I can understand why people do.
#87
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:32
'corporal doody wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
It's just a bad ending. It doesn't make the rest of the game bad.
this.
i dont have a pc that can handle SWTOR...but if it was made AVAILABLE for the xbox360..i would play it.
awakening wasnt bad...DAII however......terrible...but i still consider it a isolated incident.
ME3's only MAJOR issue was the "ending" or lack thereof. Everything else was forgivable....cuz the game was EPIC!! one of the best games i have ever played.
the bad ending doesnt mean it is a bad game...just means for one reason or another we were given a bad ending.
three things
1. MS wont let people charge on top of XBL FFXI was an exception
2. MS would have to approve EVERY PATCH do you know how often MMOs get patched?
3. HDD size do you know how BIG and MMO gets in the long run?
and thats not even getting in to game play issues with out a mouse and keyboard
and it would end up needing its own server set becouse you would have do dumb it down to make it work with a game pad
MMOs will never really take off on Consoles just tomany things in the way
#88
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:40
#89
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:45
In a way, it does. It taints every replay with the knowledge of what is to come. Right down to replaying ME1 and ME2.dreman9999 wrote...
It's just a bad ending. It doesn't make the rest of the game bad.
#90
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:47
culletron1 wrote...
The ending was NEVER going to be that great because there was no way to defeat the reapers without resorting to a deus ex machina or breaking canon.
I disagree
#91
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:47
Or maybe you set your standards too low ?kieran.me wrote...
i likes both DA2 and ME3
you guys just set your standards to high
you guys are the equivilent of 99% of the 4chan world but in the gaming world
You read quite a bit too much - maybe I'm not the one with the misplaced hubris ?Eadstompa wrote...
This dude has it right, opinions are not equal, his however is worth the exact same as everyone else's until he backs it up with some arguments, which he hasn't. Right now his opinion is worth the exact same as everyone else in this thread. However in his hubris he assumes his opinion is worth more than other people's simply due to the fact that it is worth the most to him, a common mistake for people who stain the name of realists everywhere.Zanath wrote...
I know, truth hurts. It's why denial is so common.Obi-Wan Old Ben Kenobi wrote...
Bullsh*t
I simply stated that not all opinions are equal. Obviously I place a higher weight in mine - or else I wouldn't hold it and I would switch to one that I consider better - but I wasn't stressing "my opinion is better", I was just pointing at the fact that not everyone has an equally valid opinion.
Because it's somehow pointless to argue about who has a better opinion until the actual fact that not all opinions are equal is recognized, obviously.
Modifié par Zanath, 19 mars 2012 - 10:53 .
#92
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:49
Sure there are some features here and there where they hit and miss - streamlining character customisation in ME2 - went too far, streamlining dialogue interactions in ME3 - went too far...
But the feedback for these does seem to have an impact on a future product.
There are two big problems which I feel are having a harmful effect on products in recent years.
One is the time and money factor, and shorter deadlines.
The second is the story quality being weak compared to the characters; repetitive across different titles, and not overly engaging.
It is the characters, the dialogue and the interactions, that seems to be the driving force behind BWs games and I always feel the story falls short of expectations. After ME2 I have not been overly enamoured with the story, and with ME3 I'm finding myself in the position of not caring much for the mass effect universe. But I do feel connected to the characters and that is what keeps me playing.
#93
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:49
TOR is a nice game but I'm thinking of canceling my sub. I haven't really played it in almost 3 weeks now and another week would be a month I paid 15 dollars and haven't had time to play it. It's a game I need to come back to in a few months after leveling one character then halfway to another I just felt like too much was seen before.
ME3's downfall is the ending. 95% of the game was very addictive.
#94
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:53
#95
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 10:56
Not that I consider one year to be a reasonable time frame to develop a game, but I'd like to point that Obsidian managed to pull off New Vegas and KoTOR 2 with such constraints, and though the latter was quite a bit rushed, both were still very good and the former has been the single best RPG since BG2.Taradil wrote...
In the defense of Bioware. "****-mode, activated!"
Dragon Age 2 was developed during a period of 1 Year and 5 Months, whereof the team wasn't even full for the first months. You can't expect that a game in such a grand scope to be a masterpice in such a small time-frame. It's impossible, The first Dragon Age was in production for FIVE years. Dragon Age 2 was rushed by EA and I promise you it would have been as amazing with another year or two under development.
#96
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 11:01
I'm sorry if I came across as overthinking, but the wording of your posts makes it seem that you believe you're superior to the people you're arguing with. Which until you present arguments simply isn't the case.Zanath wrote...
Or maybe you set your standards too low ?kieran.me wrote...
i likes both DA2 and ME3
you guys just set your standards to high
you guys are the equivilent of 99% of the 4chan world but in the gaming worldYou read quite a bit too much - maybe I'm not the one with the misplaced hubris ?Eadstompa wrote...
This dude has it right, opinions are not equal, his however is worth the exact same as everyone else's until he backs it up with some arguments, which he hasn't. Right now his opinion is worth the exact same as everyone else in this thread. However in his hubris he assumes his opinion is worth more than other people's simply due to the fact that it is worth the most to him, a common mistake for people who stain the name of realists everywhere.Zanath wrote...
I know, truth hurts. It's why denial is so common.Obi-Wan Old Ben Kenobi wrote...
Bullsh*t
I simply stated that not all opinions are equal. Obviously I place a higher weight in mine - or else I wouldn't hold it and I would switch to one that I consider better - but I wasn't stressing "my opinion is better", I was just pointing at the fact that not everyone has an equally valid opinion.
Because it's somehow pointless to argue about who has a better opinion until the actual fact that not all opinions are equal is recognized, obviously.
#97
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 11:08
#98
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 11:11
What? No. Mass Effect 2 was the greatest Bioware game yet, with ME3 not far behind. SWTOR is also great.FaWa wrote...
0 for 4 if you count Awakening (Even though that seems like heaven compared to this)
Bioware, you're starting to lose your unshakable credibility here.....
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Modifié par Spaghetti_Ninja, 19 mars 2012 - 11:12 .
#99
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 11:16
#100
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 11:19
taikasieni90 wrote...
How the combat was clumsy ? it was better then ME1 and ME2 put together.redplague wrote...
tyranolol wrote...
the only problem of mass effect 3 is the ending, dragon age 2 for me it was a good game and i didn't play SWTOR so i can't have an opinion about it
How can you say that!
The combat was clumsy the sub-plots were the same no matter what you decided in ME1 or ME2 or who died in 1 and 2.
The fetch questions of scanning were mind-numbing than the scanning of minerals.
The squad mates had very little story and character interaction. The inventory system was pointless and mostly redundant as the game can easily be finished using the armour sets you can buy.
And those the only things I can think of right now but I'm sure there are more.
Oh yes Tali's face!
Three different actions mapped to the same key.





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