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So BioWare is 0 for 3 now I guess?


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i can see DA2 but thee other games nah.... Bioware still got some of its qualities

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i liked DA:2 for the most part the main thing that annoyed me was the voice acting hawke sounds like a complete tool....and im english...go figure.never played SWTOR as im not a pc gamer.as far as ME3 is concerned i think they glossed over alot of problems with smooth graphics and stunning cinematics that seem to have got people distracted.i feel they took alot more out of the game than they added to it.

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I haven't played The Old Republic so I can't comment.

Didn't really like DA2 that much, it doesn't even compare to what Origins was. By itself it's ok....I guess

Mass Effect 3 is not a bad game by any means. However the ending is the only thing that sticks out in your mind when you finish it, because it's so out of place and terrible. Any emotional investment I had with the series is gone because of the ending. I have no desire to go replay ME3 like I did with ME2 and ME1...Why? Because it's all leads to nothing, choice doesn't matter, and it goes against everything Bioware promised the series would be.

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I personally have not played the MMO ToR, nor will I as I do not like playing games on the internet. So I will not comment on the positive or negative aspects of that game. I have heard people love and hate this game so I assume it is pretty decent.
Dragon Age 2: Loved this freaking game, did it have flaws absolutely, was it incredibly fun again yup. Should it have been it's own game and not a sequel... YUP!. I found enjoyment in most all of the story and development and can not wait for DA3 if there will be one.
Mass Effect 3: Currently playing my 4th time through, can't get enough of it. I can see why people don't like the endings, but why can't people see why some of us do like the endings. ME3 has issues, mine being the MP aspect of it, other than that I wait for DLC and will gladly pay for it.

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Dragon Age 2 was a rushed product. Even those who like the game (like me) freely admit it. It's not up to Bioware's standard, but it does hold its own against other games. Good NPCs, great soundtrack, engaging side quests (even if they all take place in the same locations) and characters whose merits are STILL being debated a year after its release, and the hype is all gone.

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Delduwath Mordion wrote...

I'd say they are 11 for 11 so far (not counting expansions) As much as I disliked the different direction of DA2 and wish the last 15 min of ME3 were a bit different I'd still rank their games way above most other companies' efforts.


I totally agree with you about the games,but the people is disappointing and bioware image right now isn't at the best.I believe other rpg developer(s) companies like bethesda and cd projekt win many fans this year with their games.Maybe it is the better if bioware work and without care about time give us another epic game like dao i trust them until their next release title.

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Zanath wrote...

Obi-Wan Old Ben Kenobi wrote...

Bullsh*t

I know, truth hurts. It's why denial is so common.

This dude has it right, opinions are not equal, his however is worth the exact same as everyone else's until he backs it up with some arguments, which he hasn't. Right now his opinion is worth the exact same as everyone else in this thread. However in his hubris he assumes his opinion is worth more than other people's simply due to the fact that it is worth the most to him, a common mistake for people who stain the name of realists everywhere.

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aekforever wrote...

Delduwath Mordion wrote...

I'd say they are 11 for 11 so far (not counting expansions) As much as I disliked the different direction of DA2 and wish the last 15 min of ME3 were a bit different I'd still rank their games way above most other companies' efforts.


I totally agree with you about the games,but the people is disappointing and bioware image right now isn't at the best.I believe other rpg developer(s) companies like bethesda and cd projekt win many fans this year with their games.Maybe it is the better if bioware work and without care about time give us another epic game like dao i trust them until their next release title.

time would make the game better but thts not the problem its EA.

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To be fair to bioware Dragon Age 2 was a totally different kettle of fish to ME3...

DA2 cut corners at every turn and came across as rushed, unpolished, frustrating and incoherent.

ME3 was an absolutely amazing game for 99% of the experience. The ending was NEVER going to be that great because there was no way to defeat the reapers without resorting to a deus ex machina or breaking canon.

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at first didnt like DA2 because it wasnt a continuation from DA1 but ended up enjoying it none-the-less. Not much for replayability for me tho.

ME3 everything was OK, ending meh

SW:ToR - i come from 7 years play WoW. At first it was great, then noticed less and less that i needed to be in groups to advance through the game. Eventually started just doing single player activities. Crafting in it is a joke, the Auction house barely useable, and combat wise was meh. Got grindy a bit and eventually bored because it was more of a single player RPG than an actual MMO. Sure... u can group with people and all... but it's much faster to advance thru the worlds without waiting 30 mins for a group to form.

As for "Time" yeah :( i'd have to agree. EA is very strict with schedule. it doesnt necesarrily mean they want it done fast, it mostly means they hold companies very accountable for the deadlines the companies project. MOST OF THE TIME those deadlines are wrong and gets delayed.

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Grellow wrote...

Whole Particle wrote...

I understand the criticism for DA2 and ME3, which game was the third?

SWTOR.

Apparently.

Personally I don't hate it, but I can understand why people do.

SWTOR is a great MMO. I do not find the complaints especially valid there.

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corporal doody wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

It's just a bad ending. It doesn't make the rest of the game bad.


this. 


i dont have a pc that can handle SWTOR...but if it was made AVAILABLE for the xbox360..i would play it.

awakening wasnt bad...DAII however......terrible...but i still consider it a isolated incident.

ME3's only MAJOR issue  was  the "ending" or lack thereof. Everything else was forgivable....cuz the game was EPIC!! one of the best games i have ever played. 

the bad ending doesnt mean it is a bad game...just means for one reason or another we were given a bad ending.



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three things
1. MS wont let people charge on top of XBL FFXI was an exception
2. MS would have to approve EVERY PATCH do you know how often MMOs get patched?
3. HDD size do you know how BIG and MMO gets in the long run?


and thats not even getting in to game play issues with out a mouse and keyboard
and it would end up needing its own server set becouse you would have do dumb it down to make it work with a game pad

MMOs will never really take off on Consoles just tomany things in the way

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Only in your head OP :whistle:

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dreman9999 wrote...
It's just a bad ending. It doesn't make the rest of the game bad.

In a way, it does. It taints every replay with the knowledge of what is to come. Right down to replaying ME1 and ME2.

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culletron1 wrote...

 The ending was NEVER going to be that great because there was no way to defeat the reapers without resorting to a deus ex machina or breaking canon.


I disagree

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kieran.me wrote...

i likes both DA2 and ME3

you guys just set your standards to high

you guys are the equivilent of 99% of the 4chan world but in the gaming world

Or maybe you set your standards too low ?

Eadstompa wrote...

Zanath wrote...

Obi-Wan Old Ben Kenobi wrote...

Bullsh*t

I know, truth hurts. It's why denial is so common.

This dude has it right, opinions are not equal, his however is worth the exact same as everyone else's until he backs it up with some arguments, which he hasn't. Right now his opinion is worth the exact same as everyone else in this thread. However in his hubris he assumes his opinion is worth more than other people's simply due to the fact that it is worth the most to him, a common mistake for people who stain the name of realists everywhere.

You read quite a bit too much - maybe I'm not the one with the misplaced hubris ?
I simply stated that not all opinions are equal. Obviously I place a higher weight in mine - or else I wouldn't hold it and I would switch to one that I consider better - but I wasn't stressing "my opinion is better", I was just pointing at the fact that not everyone has an equally valid opinion.
Because it's somehow pointless to argue about who has a better opinion until the actual fact that not all opinions are equal is recognized, obviously.

Modifié par Zanath, 19 mars 2012 - 10:53 .


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I think on the whole a lot of features and ideas and execution of ideas into an overall interactive experience that you have a certain amount of control over and can shape, has got better and continues to get better.

Sure there are some features here and there where they hit and miss - streamlining character customisation in ME2 - went too far, streamlining dialogue interactions in ME3 - went too far...

But the feedback for these does seem to have an impact on a future product.

There are two big problems which I feel are having a harmful effect on products in recent years.

One is the time and money factor, and shorter deadlines.

The second is the story quality being weak compared to the characters; repetitive across different titles, and not overly engaging.
It is the characters, the dialogue and the interactions, that seems to be the driving force behind BWs games and I always feel the story falls short of expectations. After ME2 I have not been overly enamoured with the story, and with ME3 I'm finding myself in the position of not caring much for the mass effect universe. But I do feel connected to the characters and that is what keeps me playing.

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DA2 should have been like the DLC Legacy. Sad that a DLC was better than the actual game but they did follow it up with a piece of garbage called Mark of the Assassin (failed excuse to put Felicia Day in their game just like Jessica Chobot in ME3). But Jessica wasn't the worse part of ME3.

TOR is a nice game but I'm thinking of canceling my sub. I haven't really played it in almost 3 weeks now and another week would be a month I paid 15 dollars and haven't had time to play it. It's a game I need to come back to in a few months after leveling one character then halfway to another I just felt like too much was seen before.

ME3's downfall is the ending. 95% of the game was very addictive.

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I cannot understand why you like the DA 2. Playing something 40 hours of gameplay and do the same thing continuously, while you fighting at the same locations only different enemies.But OK we all have different tastes, and I appreciate that.

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Taradil wrote...

In the defense of Bioware. "****-mode, activated!"

Dragon Age 2 was developed during a period of 1 Year and 5 Months, whereof the team wasn't even full for the first months. You can't expect that a game in such a grand scope to be a masterpice in such a small time-frame. It's impossible, The first Dragon Age was in production for FIVE years. Dragon Age 2 was rushed by EA and I promise you it would have been as amazing with another year or two under development.

Not that I consider one year to be a reasonable time frame to develop a game, but I'd like to point that Obsidian managed to pull off New Vegas and KoTOR 2 with such constraints, and though the latter was quite a bit rushed, both were still very good and the former has been the single best RPG since BG2.

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Zanath wrote...

kieran.me wrote...

i likes both DA2 and ME3

you guys just set your standards to high

you guys are the equivilent of 99% of the 4chan world but in the gaming world

Or maybe you set your standards too low ?

Eadstompa wrote...

Zanath wrote...

Obi-Wan Old Ben Kenobi wrote...

Bullsh*t

I know, truth hurts. It's why denial is so common.

This dude has it right, opinions are not equal, his however is worth the exact same as everyone else's until he backs it up with some arguments, which he hasn't. Right now his opinion is worth the exact same as everyone else in this thread. However in his hubris he assumes his opinion is worth more than other people's simply due to the fact that it is worth the most to him, a common mistake for people who stain the name of realists everywhere.

You read quite a bit too much - maybe I'm not the one with the misplaced hubris ?
I simply stated that not all opinions are equal. Obviously I place a higher weight in mine - or else I wouldn't hold it and I would switch to one that I consider better - but I wasn't stressing "my opinion is better", I was just pointing at the fact that not everyone has an equally valid opinion.
Because it's somehow pointless to argue about who has a better opinion until the actual fact that not all opinions are equal is recognized, obviously.

I'm sorry if I came across as overthinking, but the wording of your posts makes it seem that you believe you're superior to the people you're arguing with. Which until you present arguments simply isn't the case.

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I liked all three of those games. The only problem I've had with any of them was ME3 and DA2's endings.

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FaWa wrote...

 0 for 4 if you count Awakening (Even though that seems like heaven compared to this)
Bioware, you're starting to lose your unshakable credibility here.....

What? No. Mass Effect 2 was the greatest Bioware game yet, with ME3 not far behind. SWTOR is also great.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Modifié par Spaghetti_Ninja, 19 mars 2012 - 11:12 .


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To be fair, SWTOR is a solid MMO. Polished, decent writing, fun. But it's not a juggernaut of originality that could topple WoW as many people were hoping. I don't feel they messed anything up in it exactly, but it doesn't live up to the unfairly high expectations people had of it. Because it's strong in single-player elements, some people have been calling it KoTOR 3, but that's not much of an insult.

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taikasieni90 wrote...

redplague wrote...

tyranolol wrote...

the only problem of mass effect 3 is the ending, dragon age 2 for me it was a good game and i didn't play SWTOR so i can't have an opinion about it


How can you say that! 

The combat was clumsy the sub-plots were the same no matter what you decided in ME1 or ME2 or who died in 1 and 2. 

The fetch questions of scanning were mind-numbing than the scanning of minerals. 

The squad mates had very little story and character interaction.  The inventory system was pointless and mostly redundant as the game can easily be finished using the armour sets you can buy.

And those the only things I can think of right now but I'm sure there are more.

Oh yes Tali's face!

How the combat was clumsy ? it was better then ME1 and ME2 put together. Posted Image


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