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[PrussianBlue]

The ending destroyed the meaning of everything i did in the former games including Mass Effect 3. When choosing the Paragon Option at the end of Mass Effect 2 Shepard says:"We´ll fight and win without it(the base). I wont let fear compromise who I am."

This was the definition of my Shepard. And it was destroyed by the ending of Mass Effect 3. In the end, even though it wasn´t my choice, Shepard was eventually compromised by his fear.

Modifié par PrussianBlue, 19 mars 2012 - 10:49 .

[InsaneAzrael]

arthurhallam wrote...

Also, more people need to call you out on your bull. There's nothing worse than a mob of irate fans.

There is one thing. A listless agitator.. a.k.a Troll

[Total Biscuit]

Theres no point in doing more than one play through, it all ends up the same anyway, and I hate the ending too much to feel any motivation to play through again.

It's even effected the other two games, which I adore, especially the epic endings, but all the enjoyment has been sucked out of the experience.

Why pretend any of it matters when I know it ultimately doesn't?

[DamianWayne]

What TB said. I found out I skipped a bunch of stuff in my ME3 Playthrough after I finished. But who cares? I already know that my second or third playthrough won't affect what happens to these characters at all.

Mass Effect is more story focused than any game I've ever played. Strip that away, and you're left with nothing. At least the MP is kinda fun.

[DrDark101]

Its not a matter of not wanting to. Most everyone agree that 99% of the game is excellant, but that ending... it just sucks the life right out of it and effectively sours the excellant. Its just hard to enjoy knowing what happens thus making it hard to replay.

[ExaltedBinman]

I would love to replay it again, but I have an overwhelming feeling of pointlessness towards the whole thing. The fact that no matter whether I go renegade, paragon or somewhere in between I still have the same options for an ending which produce largely the same ultimate result (a result I find deeply dissatisfying) have killed the replay value for me.

[hchadw]

arthurhallam wrote...

Is it really that big a deal where it ends? Aside from structural similarities in the FMV sequence, there is absolutely no way you can interpret each three options as being the same.

Also, does it even matter if you finish it again? Okay, it's not a sandbox RPG, but there is definite value in playing through & exploring all the types of content there is in there. The only other game I've played in the last two years is Skyrim & I haven't even completed the main quest on it. I doubt I'll play it again, but I'll still tell people it's a wonderful game, regardless of the how the narrative plays out.

It strikes me as immensely immature to discount the experience of 60 hours of gameplay because of 5 minutes.

Do you own the other 2 games... did you put in the time others did with making a bizzilion choices to see it not matter at the end......clearly not

[Spikyjos]

Right after I finished ME2, I'd think about the choices I made and how they would help me in the third game or what blowbacks they could cause.
Me and one of my friends discussed what the consequences COULD be.

I took a risk by letting the rachni live.
I saved Sidonis, a turian politician, from the revenge of his former squadleader.
I helped Zaeed to kill Vido, leader of the Blue Suns, and in this way potentially reinstating Zaeed as their leader. Because killing Vido could possibly save more lives than saving the refinery.

and in the end none of it matters. THAT is why ME3 has no replay value compared to the pre-ME3 time when we could all dream about what was yet to come and play ME2 again to see what other choices would cause.

[Piarath]

There can be no denying the game is absolutely awesome. However, while I can't speak for everyone, when I play a game- even a replay- I want to BEAT that game. An ending is very important, especially in this outlook. If I don't enjoy the ending, why would I want to beat it again? It's different from a poor piece of the story in the middle, where the story after can pick you up from the stumble.

Think of it like riding a roller coaster that constantly crashes at the end. Fun as the roller coaster is, much as I want to redo the ride, I don't particularly want to subject myself to the jarring stop of my enjoyment and then have to walk away with a limp.

[Thorem]

does nobody care about the journey?

[Merwanor]

The game is one of my favorite games ever made, but the ending just makes it feel like it is all for nothing, that what I am doing is just folly and pointless. There are posts on this forum that has made me look at the endings with more imagination and I think I can disregard the vaugeness of the ending for another playthrough. But as it stands, the ending for this game was not satisfying for how awesome the game itself is. And it is proof of how important a good ending to a story really is, because I belive most really loved the game, but feel betrayed or lost due to the empty and vauge endings.

[Archer]

I despise the ending but choose for the time being to ignore it. I refuse to let the utter shamble that is the last ten minutes of the series ruin whats been an entirley enjoyable series.

If i switch of to the actual ending itself there really is a lot of replayability with the games. I have actually said in other anti ending posts that my decisions are pointless because they have no impact on the end of the game. I do stick by that but i do now recognise there impact during the course of the game.

My first two playthroughs were as a female and then male paragon. Im currently on my third play with one of my more pure renegade femsheps. Just finished the Genophage cure and it was a totaly different experience for me. I went from helping my old buddy out and doing right for him and his people at the cost of one of my closest friends to saving my closest friend and suffering zero guilt for tricking a savage war hungry violent git into thinking i had saved his race.

I have also threatened to gun down Kaiden and even refused to allow him back on the Normandy. Horizon payback

Modifié par eveynameiwantisfekintaken, 19 mars 2012 - 11:59 .

[ThePanzer99]

Trolling OP is trolling.

[LordHelfort]

arthurhallam wrote...

Place your views on the conclusion aside for just one moment—are you really saying you don't want to experience this wonderful piece of entertainment again? Don't you think it's a bit hysterical to say you're entire enjoyment of the series has been broken beyond repair because of an ending, which I feel isn't as bad as many of you believe?

What difference is there between that mentality (oh my god I wanna die this game ruined my life wah wah wah) & the sort of sh*t we hear whenever a popstar like Beiber cancels a gig? Most of you would sneer at the notion of Beliebers, but judging from the responses on here, you're no better than them. Some of you are worse!

For instance, I can't think of a single video gaming moment that moved me as much as when I re-united the Geth & Quarians. Which was made all the more enjoyable because of my character's emotional attachment to Tali. You betcha I'm going to experience that again.

Granted, the dialogue is at times cheesy & over-the-top, but isn't that what we enjoy about this sort of adventure? This is a romance saga set in space. Simples.

I think we're damn lucky to have a game like this on the shelves. & I'm sure whatever Bioware chooses to do with extra content will add additional pleasure to the experience.

It's fun, but I play for the characters and story. Both die at the end a horribly, grisly and abusive death. Why subject ourselves to that again?

[usmack5]

I certainly can go on with only playing ME3 through once if they choose not to fix the numerous problems with the ending (this is coming from a guy who played through ME1 and ME2 8 times a piece). That's how devastating half-***ing the end to such a fantastic series can be for a (perhaps formerly) dedicated fan.

[Pepitobenito]

 I do, and I am, and yes Mass Effect 3 is one of my favourite games in recent memory...but the real crime here is that it could have very easily been one of my favourite games of ALL TIME.  But that ending...that ending tarnishes it.  It doesn't reduce the quality of the rest of the game, which is still outstanding, but it does linger at the back of your mind, a constant reminder as you're playing that "Well, this can only end badly".

I definitely play for the journey, not the destination, but in this case, the destination did all it could to unravel the very fabric of the journey.  It's not just a bad or inconclusive ending; it's actually destructive to the series.  This assumes, of course, that Bioware actually intended on this being the final, conclusive ending and was meant to be taken literally.  If the indoctrination theories pan out and Bioware has had the 'real' ending up their sleeve this whole time (a prospect becoming less likely by the day), well then I'd tip my hat to their gutsy maneuver to actually 'indoctrinate' their players.

[Nightdragon8]

nedimlive wrote...

does nobody care about the journey?

i think all of us here will say that 99% of the game we enjoyed in fact we love it, its just the ending made us go "What?" or "?Como?" or "?Que?"

So i think its just that people are misunderstanding its just that the ending sort of ruined the series.

[ergonomalous]

I will most likely be playing through these games again. But it will be with A Shepard and not MY Shepard.

[Yubz]

Nope, won't play it again. Let's be honest, the gameplay is not very good compared to other action games. The main reason to play Mass Effect has always been its great story and the decisions you make along the way. Now that the story is ruined and it turns out that none of your decisions matter in the slightest there is no reason to play the game a second time.

[ediskrad327]

yeah the endings scream "don't ever touch anything with Mark Vanderloo's face ever again!

[ClericofDeath286]

So lets say I go out to dinner with you, we're laughing it up having drinks, and just having a great time. Then right before we say our goodbyes for the evening I beating the mother****in **** out of you and steal all your cash; Your left there hanging on for dear life.

Would you still feel the same about the good time you had or would you be focusing on the savage beating?

Modifié par ClericofDeath286, 20 mars 2012 - 12:24 .

[zennyrpg]

I'm still waiting to play it. You know, cuz of the face import bug. I saw the endings though, so I'll probably stop right before the cerberus base.

[arthurhallam]

If trolling in this instance provides some sort of counterpoint that dampens the absurd notion that the ME Trilogy is unplayable because of the final moments of its conclusion--well, yes, I'm trolling.

FWIW, yes I have played through both ME 1 & ME 2 & know the lore of the universe as well as any of you.

I just choose to overlook whatever irritation the final scene causes me to appreciate everything else there is about the game.

Might be worth pointing out that I'm doing a PhD in literature, with a focus on the apocalypse & endings, with particular attention to Frank Kermode's work on the subject. There's something atavistic about people wanting to partition time into neat little segments that are perfectly complete. But faced with a work that dares to destabilise that they invariably end up upset.

Modifié par arthurhallam, 20 mars 2012 - 10:48 .

[kyg_20X6]

I tried an immediate second playthrough, was just filled with dread and stopped at Mars. Read Indoctrination Theory and that pulled me that second playthrough. Tried a third but the depressing conversations with LI's and squaddies... the game makes me depressed, literally. This playthrough is sitting at just before Tuchanka, and I really don't know if I can continue without the promise of an ending fix. It's hard to hear all those conversations and know how things really turn out. I'm too invested in the characters to just blow off what they say.

Modifié par kyg_20X6, 20 mars 2012 - 11:06 .

[Chainshada]

I managed to get through Tuchanka  on NG+ before I gave up, the last couple of days I've tried to start fresh from ME1, new shep, new face, I can't play for more than 15 minutes before I think "what's the point?", save and exit..

Modifié par Chainshada, 20 mars 2012 - 11:01 .