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[Swisspease]

arthurhallam wrote...

apotheosic wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

Why bother when the ending you get is exactly the same, full of plotholes and lacks any closure.

Einstein once said Insanity is doing things over and over again and expecting different results.

Ursula leGuin said "There must be an end to every journey, but it is the journey that matters in the end."

Excellent quote from one of the genre's masters that certainly applies here. 

Unless the ending negates everything you've done since first turning on ME1

[ek5000]

arthurhallam wrote...

Who gives a flying F*CK if the ending undermines the logic of the choices you've made. Can't you enjoy the experience of making those choices!

Because I mind the story more than the gameplay, and to be told at the end of the series that storywise, nothing you did prior to meeting the creepy Ai starchild matters, was a major bummer.

[Sparse]

arthurhallam wrote...
Who gives a flying F*CK if the ending undermines the logic of the choices you've made. Can't you enjoy the experience of making those choices!

Who enjoys making meaningless decisions?? We can all do that in our everyday lives, we don't need to buy a game and sit in front of a computer for it.

[RLesueur]

captainbob8383 wrote...

Because we have a heart and a soul?
If you care about the story and the chars you simply cant replay throught the game when you know everything will go to waste eventually.
Gameplay is nothing compared to emotional bond with this universe.

This!

[Sinilin_]

I see no replay value in ME3. I have many different Shepards and I had planned to play ME3 several times to see how my different choices impact the game. But the current ending has ruined the whole series for me and this really makes me very sad. I want to play but I just can't bring myself to do it as I remember the bad ending everyone gets.

[arthurhallam]

RLesueur wrote...

arthurhallam wrote...

apotheosic wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

Why bother when the ending you get is exactly the same, full of plotholes and lacks any closure.

Einstein once said Insanity is doing things over and over again and expecting different results.

Ursula leGuin said "There must be an end to every journey, but it is the journey that matters in the end."

Excellent quote from one of the genre's masters that certainly applies here. 

Don't sweat it guys, it's the journey that mattered!

You'll die at the end of your life. May as well kill yourself now, because there is no way you can enjoy life knowing what awaits you. See the problem with this logic?

[spacefiddle]

That's just it!  i DO want to replay it!  I bet a lot of us do and that's why we're here!

I also had plans for multiple playthroughs, mutiple Shepards, a replay+ on Insanity, going to trying to "perfect" a ME2 replay, even, to import...

But all of it seems pointless now.  One of the fun things about a replay is seeing what might turn out different.

Now I know nothing will.  And the only real difference is "do most sidequests and get bad endings," or "ignore a lot of sidequests and get slightly worse endings."  There is zero visibility of all other choices.  I hit some bar on a scorecard, and get a binary shift in my choice at the end / addition of the color Green.  Nothing else changes, nothing else matters.

I want to enjoy playing the game again.  ALL of them.

[InfiniteDemise]

arthurhallam wrote...

apotheosic wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

Why bother when the ending you get is exactly the same, full of plotholes and lacks any closure.

Einstein once said Insanity is doing things over and over again and expecting different results.

Ursula leGuin said "There must be an end to every journey, but it is the journey that matters in the end."

Excellent quote from one of the genre's masters that certainly applies here. 

Or not. In this case, the journey doesn't matter even a tiny bit for the end.

[ericjdev]

The awful ending invalidates every decision my character ever made and is jarringly out of tone with the spirit and message of the series up to that point. Is insultingly vague and filled with plot holes and stale literary mechanisms. Also, all endings are same ending so whatever 'decision' I make with another character I'm left with the same nonsense explanation from some Deus Ex Machina character who my Shep never would have listened to anyway giving me 3 arbitrary decisions that all involve utterly betraying everything (s)he represents. And after that, I get to not see the impact my decisions made on the galaxy. I'm just not masochistic enough to do it again.

[Flamesz]

*looks at OP's join date*

*remembers that Bioware are apparantly getting employee's to say they like it online*

Erm... Kinda gonna be suspicious here...

[Fame-KIllz]

arthurhallam wrote...

Who gives a flying F*CK if the ending undermines the logic of the choices you've made. Can't you enjoy the experience of making those choices!

Lol okay then, I'll enjoy making those decision which don't matter. They don't effect the outcome, but I'll enjoy making those decisions anyway.

Nice logic.

[Reptilian Rob]

mCmuFFeL wrote...

Whole Particle wrote...

Honestly, probably because of the ending, all actions leading to the same event kinda kills replay value for me.

Although if they released a good / variable ending DLC, patch, etc. I'd probably replay the heck out of it.

This

[ahandsomeshark]

arthurhallam wrote...

Who gives a flying F*CK if the ending undermines the logic of the choices you've made. Can't you enjoy the experience of making those choices!

No I can't.

[SoulDire]

arthurhallam wrote...

Who gives a flying F*CK if the ending undermines the logic of the choices you've made. Can't you enjoy the experience of making those choices!

If everyone could do that then we wouldn't be having this conversation.  The ending is the culmination of the journey to get there.  If an ending invalidates the choices you made during the journey then the journey is pointless and no longer fun to take.  Like I said, this is good for you, you are still getting enjoyment out of it, I just wish I could feel that way, but I can't.

[TryckSh0t]

The issue has nothing to do with how amazing the series was, it was fantastic. The problem is, we were led to believe that our choices throughout all three games would have a profound effect on the outcome of the series. This is not the case. I was planning to multiple playthroughs, try to see as much as I could, but why bother? The ending is the same, regardless of what I do. Sometimes, it's all about the journey, and other it's about the destination. Unfortunately, Mass Effect was about both, but only hit half of it right.

[apotheosic]

RLesueur wrote...

arthurhallam wrote...

apotheosic wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

Why bother when the ending you get is exactly the same, full of plotholes and lacks any closure.

Einstein once said Insanity is doing things over and over again and expecting different results.

Ursula leGuin said "There must be an end to every journey, but it is the journey that matters in the end."

Excellent quote from one of the genre's masters that certainly applies here. 

Don't sweat it guys, it's the journey that mattered!

I don't even care that you're undermining my argument, that's just hilarious!

[RLesueur]

arthurhallam wrote...

You'll die at the end of your life. May as well kill yourself now, because there is no way you can enjoy life knowing what awaits you. See the problem with this logic?

Well, let me put it this way, I won't be going back and replaying my life either.

[arthurhallam]

Sparse wrote...

arthurhallam wrote...
Who gives a flying F*CK if the ending undermines the logic of the choices you've made. Can't you enjoy the experience of making those choices!

Who enjoys making meaningless decisions?? We can all do that in our everyday lives, we don't need to buy a game and sit in front of a computer for it.

But I sincerely doubt your daily life involves shooting aliens in the face with a shotgun, or making wise cracks with an alien at the top of some weird space station designed by lovecraftian space robots.

[MzAdventure]

Prior to the finishing moments, I was ready to start my second playthrough immediately. I honestly envision playing non-stop for weeks to get at least a few of my shep variations through and see all the stuff I missed.

But the ending makes the whole series unplayable for me as the ending renders the whole journey pointless.

[Myrmedus]

The Mass Effect trilogy experience is intertwined with its story. Sure, the gameplay is fun, but the plot is such a big part of it that the ending ruins replayability value.

[Unit-Alpha]

I've started to replay segments, but that's just because I want my money's worth.

ME1 and ME2: I replayed those because they were nearly perfect.

[InfiniteDemise]

arthurhallam wrote...

RLesueur wrote...

arthurhallam wrote...

apotheosic wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

Why bother when the ending you get is exactly the same, full of plotholes and lacks any closure.

Einstein once said Insanity is doing things over and over again and expecting different results.

Ursula leGuin said "There must be an end to every journey, but it is the journey that matters in the end."

Excellent quote from one of the genre's masters that certainly applies here. 

Don't sweat it guys, it's the journey that mattered!

You'll die at the end of your life. May as well kill yourself now, because there is no way you can enjoy life knowing what awaits you. See the problem with this logic?

My death will be the culmination of my life. Not so much with the travesty that's the end of this game.

[Hellosanta]

Not anytime soon as I know that all my choices does not matter in the end and the story does not really finish, I have to use my imagination to finish it. It's just too depressing to play the game again.
I liked ME series because my choices mattered and were reflected at the end.

[Eain]

arthurhallam wrote...

majormajormmajor wrote...

OP is a typical ending defender. Notice how he insults all of you for not liking it. Typical tactics for his fecking type.

Yes, I am attacking the mentality of hysterical fantards. Sorry. 

Since when is hysteria required to see through an ending that has no logic? It's blatantly evident that it does not.

[arthurhallam]

RLesueur wrote...

arthurhallam wrote...

You'll die at the end of your life. May as well kill yourself now, because there is no way you can enjoy life knowing what awaits you. See the problem with this logic?

Well, let me put it this way, I won't be going back and replaying my life either.

So, it's safe to assume you'll never repeat any activity that gives you pleasure then?