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[InfiniteDemise]

arthurhallam wrote...

What? Pointing out that the idea an ending can undermine 50-60s of near flawless experience is immature, is automatically in itself immature? Good one.

ME3 is no where near flawless. There are some amazing moments, and the game is great, but it has plenty of flaws beyond the ending. The stupid fetch-via-probe missions are just lame, for example.

"Oh, I'm so excited I just discovered 'TEXT'! Happy day!"

[Liber320]

arthurhallam wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

arthurhallam wrote...

RLesueur wrote...

arthurhallam wrote...

RLesueur wrote...

arthurhallam wrote...

You'll die at the end of your life. May as well kill yourself now, because there is no way you can enjoy life knowing what awaits you. See the problem with this logic?

Well, let me put it this way, I won't be going back and replaying my life either.

So, it's safe to assume you'll never repeat any activity that gives you pleasure then?

Again. Mass Effect no longer gives me pleasure. The ending ruined that for me.

Immaturity. 

This post is legendarily ironic.

What? Pointing out that the idea an ending can undermine 50-60s of near flawless experience is immature, is automatically in itself immature? Good one.

Not immature, just narrow-minded. I wouldn't be able to enjoy a great movie with a horrible ending a second time, knowing that it would end in such a poor way.
If you can then more power to you, but there are many people who are so invested in the story that knowing it ends in such an abysmal fashion kills their motivation to go through it all again.

And it has nothing to do with Sheperd's death, and everything to do with how little sense it all made, and how poorly executed it was

Modifié par Liber320, 19 mars 2012 - 07:31 .

[Paragon Auducan]

Modifié par Paragon Auducan, 19 mars 2012 - 07:31 .

[Mtora]

I'd like to replay the game, but with the knowledge that whatever I do in-game, there's no payoff in the end, I just don't see the point.

It's a real pity though, as ME3 is a great game, but like RAGE, the ending simply kills the entire experience.

[spacefiddle]

arthurhallam wrote...

InfiniteDemise wrote...

arthurhallam wrote...

Immaturity. 

You're the one that compared playing a game to actually living and dying, and she's the immature one because she doesn't get any pleasure from replaying a game?

Kid, stop being a tool.

I didn't compare playing the game to living & dying you complete & utter cretin, I was pointing out the flaw in her logic. There was no value judgment built into the comparison. 

You people are dumb as f*ck. 

Reported.  Go away, troll.

[JunMadine]

detroitmechworks wrote...

The illusion of choice has been shattered. No reason to replay, nothing I do matters.

[TheMerchantMan]

The story has been ruined for me. I can't start just because I know whatever I do in the end it's all futile and worthless. But I can still play the Multiplayer without feeling bad. So that makes me a happy camper. 

[InfiniteDemise]

arthurhallam wrote...

InfiniteDemise wrote...

arthurhallam wrote...

Immaturity. 

You're the one that compared playing a game to actually living and dying, and she's the immature one because she doesn't get any pleasure from replaying a game?

Kid, stop being a tool.

I didn't compare playing the game to living & dying you complete & utter cretin, I was pointing out the flaw in her logic. There was no value judgment built into the comparison. 

You people are dumb as f*ck. 

You litterally did, and you're seemingly too dense to even undestand it. Good job, child.

Modifié par InfiniteDemise, 19 mars 2012 - 07:32 .

[KadivyaSky]

arthurhallam wrote...

Is it really that big a deal where it ends? Aside from structural similarities in the FMV sequence, there is absolutely no way you can interpret each three options as being the same.

Also, does it even matter if you finish it again? Okay, it's not a sandbox RPG, but there is definite value in playing through & exploring all the types of content there is in there. The only other game I've played in the last two years is Skyrim & I haven't even completed the main quest on it. I doubt I'll play it again, but I'll still tell people it's a wonderful game, regardless of the how the narrative plays out.

It strikes me as immensely immature to discount the experience of 60 hours of gameplay because of 5 minutes.

So if you were eating a huge delicious bowl of soup (or chili, or icecream, etc)  and got to the very bottom and there was a human fingertip in it, you'd be asking for more of that if you were mature? It's a similar situation. We got to the end and it was so bad that all of the game was ruined. I'm not going back for a second helping when I know it had a human finger in it. The whole batch is tainted. Sorry, I don't think you'd be dwelling on the yumminess of that food you had once you saw the fingertip.

We got to the end and it was so bad that all of the game was ruined. No second helpings of ruined game for me.

Modifié par KadivyaSky, 19 mars 2012 - 07:37 .

[mi_dad]

Whole Particle wrote...

Honestly, probably because of the ending, all actions leading to the same event kinda kills replay value for me.

Although if they released a good / variable ending DLC, patch, etc. I'd probably replay the heck out of it.

This

[arthurhallam]

InfiniteDemise wrote...

arthurhallam wrote...

InfiniteDemise wrote...

arthurhallam wrote...

Immaturity. 

You're the one that compared playing a game to actually living and dying, and she's the immature one because she doesn't get any pleasure from replaying a game?

Kid, stop being a tool.

I didn't compare playing the game to living & dying you complete & utter cretin, I was pointing out the flaw in her logic. There was no value judgment built into the comparison. 

You people are dumb as f*ck. 

You litterally did, and you're seemingly to dense to even undestand it. Good job, child.

You're a cretinous little twerp who evidently can't read. 

[Bantz]

it pains me because i really loved the game and want to play through it again but I can't bring myself to load it up. I tried the other day and soon as i saw the title screen my head just starting screaming "LOTS OF SPECULATION FOR EVERYONE!"

[verysleepyninja]

In the end you leave the galaxy almost destroyed, you do more damage than the reapers ever could have. Whats the point?

[Big Push]

arthurhallam wrote...

majormajormmajor wrote...

OP is a typical ending defender. Notice how he insults all of you for not liking it. Typical tactics for his fecking type.

Yes, I am attacking the mentality of hysterical fantards. Sorry. 

It's not hysterical. RPGs are fun because you get to make choices and see how the gamereacts to them. However, if the consequence of every choice is "You are worse than Hitler" regardless of how it's presented to you initially, it's no longer fun.

As just a pure shooter, the Mass Effect series is OK but nothing special; that part of the gameplay isn't enough to keep me coming back.

[Sparse]

I didn't compare playing the game to living & dying you complete & utter cretin, I was pointing out the flaw in her logic. There was no value judgment built into the comparison. 

You people are dumb as f*ck. 

You need to stop insulting people and actually read what people are saying. If you do that you will find that your initial question has been answered repeatedly.

[SoulDire]

arthurhallam wrote...

You people are dumb as f*ck. 

Wow.  Just... wow.

[VigilancePress]

arthurhallam wrote...

InfiniteDemise wrote...

arthurhallam wrote...

Immaturity. 

You're the one that compared playing a game to actually living and dying, and she's the immature one because she doesn't get any pleasure from replaying a game?

Kid, stop being a tool.

I didn't compare playing the game to living & dying you complete & utter cretin, I was pointing out the flaw in her logic. There was no value judgment built into the comparison. 

You people are dumb as f*ck. 

Reported.

There's no need to be insulting or rude to make your point, unless your point is simply to be rude and insulting.

[ek5000]

arthurhallam wrote...

You know you'll die, that's all that matters. & my point has to do with how you occupy the time until that occurs. 

Tell you what, if I get to "replay" my life, I'll replay the ME series.

Your analogy is still ridicilous.

[Echo_V]

FbangIncentinveX wrote...

Personally, Thane dying automatically, and knowing that all of my choices don't even do anything, really discourage.

ME1 and ME2 while I wait for Thane and Ending DLC? Hell yes.

<3


I just don't want to waste another 30 hours knowing i will feel unsatisfied afterwards...AGAIN
and since thane dies anyway, there is not much motivation left.

[Paragon Auducan]

lol cretins......lol

[Swisspease]

arthurhallam wrote...

InfiniteDemise wrote...

arthurhallam wrote...

Immaturity. 

You're the one that compared playing a game to actually living and dying, and she's the immature one because she doesn't get any pleasure from replaying a game?

Kid, stop being a tool.

I didn't compare playing the game to living & dying you complete & utter cretin, I was pointing out the flaw in her logic. There was no value judgment built into the comparison. 

You people are dumb as f*ck. 

And who is the immature one here? Does someone need a nap?

[K_Tabris]

Because, in the end, it doesn't even matter. All of your decisions, and efforts against the Reapers ends up in a clusterf*ckfest.

No thanks, looking at other games to play now.

[JeffreyCor]

staindgrey wrote...

I do want to experience it again, with multiple Shepards.

But then when I start up the game, I remember the ending, then rage, then tell myself it's not worth my time until I get a definitive answer from Bioware as to whether or not they will eventually change the ending. Because if they do, I'm replaying all of my Shepards again to cleanse my memory of the original abomination.

I will replay ME3. One day. That day isn't any time soon, though.

This pretty much sums up my feels as well. I LOVE ME, but the ending of ME3 has tainted everything. Even playing ME1, knowing ultamently nothing I do makes any difference sours it. When I get those feelings, I come on here and see how many others there are that feel exactly the same way and the pressure, and (faint) hope that BioWare will fix this FUBAR helps to aleviate these feelings in hopes that, some day, ME3 will be the great game in full that it could have been and restore the series to the high level I always felt it was.

[Kristofer1]

gameplay was fun but if i know i wont like the end result why play to begin with? i more or less feel as though i wasted my time getting ME1 and ME2 and completing multiple games in each of them. then i play the new one, with all my choices that will affect the outcome and i was presented with three choices that effectively kill of the mass effect series. yeah, i want to waste my valuable time doing that again. no thanks, i have more important things to do.

[SuperTeal]

SoulDire wrote...

If I watch a movie with an ending I don't like, I don't watch that movie again, same here.

This is exactly how I feel.

I really really want to replay the series - but the ending is so bad I don't think I care really.  I mean the gameplay is fun, but there are plenty of other good games out there with fun gameplay that don't have crap endings and actually deliver what was promised.