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[Quietness]

so now that things have descended into name calling i think its time for


Thank you for your opinion. We are carefully listening to every point of view, putting it into a document, and will review it at a later point. What is your favorite moment?

[Straw_foot]

arthurhallam wrote...

Place your views on the conclusion aside for just one moment—are you really saying you don't want to experience this wonderful piece of entertainment again?

Put the violence aside, don't you love war?

[Jadebaby]

arthurhallam wrote...

Place your views on the conclusion aside for just one moment—are you really saying you don't want to experience this wonderful piece of entertainment again? Don't you think it's a bit hysterical to say you're entire enjoyment of the series has been broken beyond repair because of an ending, which I feel isn't as bad as many of you believe

Did anyone else notice this statement is hypocritical?

Regardless, The game was a masterpiece and I do really want to be able to play it again. But that clusterf*** of an ending makes me feel like I do my eyes an injustice whenever I look at the case.

Modifié par Jade8aby88, 19 mars 2012 - 07:51 .

[Elite Midget]

You ever get that rotten taste in your mouth? Yeah, that's what I get from just looking at the game after getting the ending.

[pjotroos]

arthurhallam wrote...

Place your views on the conclusion aside for just one moment—are you really saying you don't want to experience this wonderful piece of entertainment again? Don't you think it's a bit hysterical to say you're entire enjoyment of the series has been broken beyond repair because of an ending, which I feel isn't as bad as many of you believe?

Well, as for the last bit, to each their own. I think the ending is horrible. A lot of replay value is lost on me, because I already know how it will all end. I want to replay it, eventually, but for now the entertainment value of this game is really so low I just can't get myself to start it up again. It was good up until the last 15 minutes, but I honestly believe a journey is as much about a journey as it is about a destination, and right now destination is a huge pile of faeces.

Modifié par pjotroos, 19 mars 2012 - 07:51 .

[cotheer]

Sooooo, CoD/MW kids took over BSN too.
My my.

[Gravbh]

Every time I see "choices didn't matter herp derp" I just skip the rest of the post. As such I've basically only read the OP. The choices I made throughout the series certainly manifested in the game itself.

What's the point of even living? It's all pointless because we know how it ends anyway(death). Are the majority here really that fatalistic or just blinded by nerd rage?

[Vhalkyrie]

I actually just finished replaying ME1.  When I got to the Sovereign/Saren conversations, I was thinking, "Wow, if Indoc is true, this is freaking brilliant."  But if I consider ME3 as it currently stands, it makes me more angry because then Sovereign/Saren were right all along, and it everything I did between then was invalidated.  Might as well have joined Saren there.

[NekOoNinja]

Obvious troll is obvious. Check the join date, and his demeanor.
Now move along, nothing to see here. There's funnier stuff here on the forums.

[Sparse]

It's a bit like playing FIFA 12 if you know you will lose 1-0, 2-0 or 3-0. I would play until I discovered that but I sure as hell wouldn't be playing 20 hours later no matter how good I thought the mechanics of it were.

Modifié par Sparse, 19 mars 2012 - 07:52 .

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

I do want to replay it, but with no goal why bother

[Liber320]

InfiniteDemise wrote...

Liber320 wrote...

arthurhallam wrote...

I didn't compare playing the game to living & dying you complete & utter cretin, I was pointing out the flaw in her logic. There was no value judgment built into the comparison. 

You people are dumb as f*ck. 

Really?

arthurhallam wrote...

You'll die at the end of your life. May as
well kill yourself now, because there is no way you can enjoy life
knowing what awaits you. See the problem with this logic?

You don't understand man! You, like, can't read or something!

I know right! I must be dumb as f*ck!

[Paragon Auducan]

Gravbh wrote...

Every time I see "choices didn't matter herp derp" I just skip the rest of the post. As such I've basically only read the OP. The choices I made throughout the series certainly manifested in the game itself.

What's the point of even living? It's all pointless because we know how it ends anyway(death). Are the majority here really that fatalistic or just blinded by nerd rage?

We have NO Idea how life ends only that it ends. How do you die? What's after death?

This game NULLIFIES EVERYTHING you did in the trilogy.

When your life ends other people you have affected live on, the ending of a game is the end of the game nothing continues for anyone.

[GongStar]

I did play it a second time almost all the way through but I stopped at the last battle.
Felt pointless to see the end again.

[calis_riakel]

arthurhallam wrote...

It strikes me as immensely immature to discount the experience of 60 hours of gameplay because of 5 minutes.

To me, it's immensly immature to tell people they're wrong for feeling as they do just because you don't understand why they feel as they do.

Have you actually read the multitude of constructive posts on the topic that are here? Or are you just trying to troll us?

Here's some decent links on the subject:

http://social.biowar.../index/10084349

http://social.biowar.../index/10022779

http://social.biowar...5/index/9999272

*edit to add : http://social.biowar...5/index/9810433

Modifié par calis_riakel, 19 mars 2012 - 08:57 .

[InsaneAzrael]

apotheosic wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

apotheosic wrote...

arthurhallam wrote...

You'll die at the end of your life. May as well kill yourself now, because there is no way you can enjoy life knowing what awaits you. See the problem with this logic?

This.
The ending is bad. We get it. Don't let it ruin an otherwise amazing game by dwelling on it and nothing else. This is why I regret coming to the spoiler forum, because it's ALL you guys talk about!

If you don't like it, you don't have to read it, you know.

BUT SOMEONE ON THE ITNERNET HAS AN OPINION THAT DIFFERS FROM MY OWN!!!!
SURELY IT IS MY DUTY TO CHANGE THEIR MINDS TO MY SUPERIOR OPINION!??!?!

0/10

[littleork]

I finished my 2nd playthrough yesterday, working on me1 with a new class right now. There is days that I dont want to replay the game because I think of how angry the ending made me, but it always goes away because the rest of the ride was amazing. I still want my new ending but Im still able to play the game.

[Ashilana]

arthurhallam wrote...

Place your views on the conclusion aside for just one moment—are you really saying you don't want to experience this wonderful piece of entertainment again? Don't you think it's a bit hysterical to say you're entire enjoyment of the series has been broken beyond repair because of an ending, which I feel isn't as bad as many of you believe?

So... the point of this thread is?  

A) Make fun of the majority of players who found the ending lackluster.

Make yourself feel better because you don't understand why the ending is nearly universally reviled.

C) Compare those who disagree with you to Justin Bieber fans.

[forgottenlord]

I play games because I see them as a 40hr story, not because I love the gameplay.  When I read books, I hate it - absolutely despise it - when the story ends with you feeling like a huge chunk of the story was pointless and futile.  Think of Vega at the start kind of moping about how he sacrificed people to get information about the Collectors back to the Alliance - feeling to some degree as if there was a pointlessness in that sacrifice.  That's how I feel when I look at Rannoch and Tuchanka and most other elements of the game - really, just about everything prior to Thessia and especially the side missions.

[Randalf84]

I could replay if I decided to ignore the story completely and just do it for the gameplay, but it might as well just be Gears of War if that's the case. GoW would take less time, too.

[Velesfray]

I started my second play through...but I just can't seem to play it anymore. All the choices are too tied into ME2 (couldn't get an import) so I can never get the best results to the conflicts, and I know that any changes I do make in the nw+ mean **** all. It's like re-reading a book with a so-so ending right after you finished it, hoping to get a new ending. T_T At least the multilayer isn't bad but its co-op only so that's getting old fast.

[martiancake]

I do want to replay it, again and again with all my Shepards. It was a ton of fun and perfect in most ways right up until the ending. It's because it was so fantastic right up to the end that the end is so utterly disappointing.

But when I loaded up an NG+ for the first time, I just felt a great sense of futility and hopelessness. What does it matter if I make peace between the quarians and geth? They'll all end up either dead (geth) or stranded far from home with little food and no hope of getting home in their lifetimes. Better to just let Tali throw herself off that cliff so at least she died on her homeworld.

Or I could just force everyone in the galaxy to become homogenized, completely going against the message  of 'strength in free will and diversity' that had been such a strong part of, yanno, all the rest of the games put together.

[ahandsomeshark]

InfiniteDemise wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

The journey has to mean something, Mass Effect ultimately doesn't. You are shoe horned into 3 Identical endings that undo every single past decision you made.

Anyone who can replay them and I'm being serious here, has psychological problems.

Oh, I don't know about that. The combat and most of the missions are great enough to replay with different classes and different companions.

I wouldn't bother with the Cerebus base or beyond, though.

I don't know I played through a second time and really didn't feel like the squad was varied enough in skill sets to really have the same kind of replayability ME2 had. Like on my main play through my Shepard is an infiltrator and I saved Ashley not Kaidan. So I end up with 4 tech heavy players 2 pure soldiers (one of whom I didn't get till nearly halfway through the game), and one biotic who's kind of weak on pure combat (and no one to help set up detonations with her). And by the end I almost HAD to bring Vega along all the time because my infiltrator was fairly frail and I needed someone who had crowd control abilities and who could tank. Where as in ME2 there were multiple players with crowd control abilities through their biotics, and with barrier on Jacob there were two tanks (though to be honest does anyone ever use Jacob?), one of whom had biotics I could bring someone like Thane for both long-range/high damage and to set up biotic combos and etc etc.

Yeah I could change my shepard to one of the classes with biotics (and there's the dlc character but I'm not taking him into account because not everyone has him or even has access to dlc) but then I'd still be more limits on the type of builds/strategies that would be effective, plus the fact that changing bonus powers and reallocating points takes up a ton of credits just making it more difficult. 

Though on the flip side if they had given me a game with ME3's combat and ME2's number of squad choices I would probably never do anything productive again in my life so maybe it's for the best.

[SpideyKnight]

The simple answer is because we have moral integrity.  We can't place our views aside, it does our cause no good.  It would be like saying we are going to boycott only to then buy and play the game.  If you do that, you have done nothing, you have achieved nothing, you are a mouthpiece and nothing more.  Some of us are made out of sturdier stuff than that.  Yes it is painful to have to stick to your guns, it isn't called the high path because it's easy.  If females will forgive the expression this is what separates the men from the boys, or perhaps more aptly the surfs from the true believers.  

If you are still playing you are sending mixed messages.  You are mad at the ending, yet still playing the game.  You must not be too mad.  This is the message that Bio is getting.  You aren't doing yourself any favors.  Telemetry matters, they mention it constantly and they are watching it.  This is an honor system, no one is going to force you not to play.  Whether you do or not is your call, your honor.


Can you sacrifice for what you believe in?  That is the question here, if you can't that's your deal, but for those of us who are truly passionate and strong in our conviction we will not waiver.

[Razhael]

Its being difficult to replay it again. Personally dont have the motivation to play it multiple times like ME2. ¿Whats the point on taking different paths to reach exactly the same end?