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[The Almighty Ali]

If they're going to reduce themselves to mocking and name calling rather then serious debate then just ignore them.

[wtbusername]

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

wtbusername wrote...

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

wtbusername wrote...

Kind of like how people are exaggerating how the last 5 minutes of a franchise ruins an entire series.

A shame it's not an exaggeration.

Sure it isn't.

Whatever makes you people sleep at night.

I'm glad you at least see why you were wrong.

Wrong would imply a fact, so your statement is wrong because the fact is that this is a matter of opinion, nothing else.

If you're still following me, taken at face value, the ending doesn't invalidate anything.

Because if you were to take Shepard's journey as one cohesive story, replay value doesn't come into play.

[MassFrank]

Did someone at IGN give the Star Wars kid a talk show?

[BULLETWASTER]

Keep it coming IGN! This shows we are winning. Why? Because EA is feeling the pressure. They went to websites like IGN and said "Listen, you need to find a way to downplay this. Sales are starting to be affected, you need to convince people RetakeMassEffect is a just a bunch of whiney gamers. You don't put up some kind of response you're blacklisted from our products. Ok go." Now these websites resort to mocking us because they have no other choice. They can't make a reasonable arguement. The ending is so bad you can't say it's amazing. The movement raised over 60k for charity and is picking up steam, our grievances and arguements are bullet-proof. So keep it coming IGN!

[turian_rage]

Almostfaceman wrote...

It doesn't really matter, folks. What matters to EA is whether or not this whole thing is going to hurt their bottom line. Right now, tons of unhappy fans are most definitely going to hurt their bottom line.

True. Mainstream opinion has never mattered to gamers since it is often geared toward a crowd who has no idea what the f**k we do. It's all about the fans, the players, and BioWare knows that. That's why I have hope.

[Icesong]

wtbusername wrote...

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

wtbusername wrote...

Kind of like how people are exaggerating how the last 5 minutes of a franchise ruins an entire series.

A shame it's not an exaggeration.

Sure it isn't.

Whatever makes you people sleep at night.

If the last 5 minutes make me never want to play or think about the series again what would you describe that as other than ruined?

[Harbinger of Hope]

CRISIS1717 wrote...

They had a walking IGN advert in the game, what do you expect?

Yup. Probably just added her to secure good reviews.

[Ravennus]

Completely done with IGN

[Versus Omnibus]

turian_rage wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

It doesn't really matter, folks. What matters to EA is whether or not this whole thing is going to hurt their bottom line. Right now, tons of unhappy fans are most definitely going to hurt their bottom line.

True. Mainstream opinion has never mattered to gamers since it is often geared toward a crowd who has no idea what the f**k we do. It's all about the fans, the players, and BioWare knows that. That's why I have hope.

And that's why we must not give up! Keep proving the media wrong, by being civil and respectful towards Bioware while asking for a change in the endings.

[BaladasDemnevanni]

wtbusername wrote...

Wrong would imply a fact, so your statement is wrong because the fact is that this is a matter of opinion, nothing else.

It is a fact that individuals consider ME3 to have ruined the series. There is no exaggeration.

If you're still following me, taken at face value, the ending doesn't invalidate anything.

See, now this would be an opinion.

Because if you were to take Shepard's journey as one cohesive story, replay value doesn't come into play.

People don't replay things they don't enjoy. How you decide to evaluate your games is irrelevant to how others choose to. As one cohesive story, the ending managed to shoot the entire series right in the face.

Modifié par BaladasDemnevanni, 19 mars 2012 - 08:14 .

[tekkaman fear]

Deleted my ign links and stopped visiting them a few days ago. They were always a bit shakey but their behavior the last week or so forced me to decide.

[tjmax]

wtbusername wrote...

Wrong would imply a fact, so your statement is wrong because the fact is that this is a matter of opinion, nothing else.

If you're still following me, taken at face value, the ending doesn't invalidate anything.

Because if you were to take Shepard's journey as one cohesive story, replay value doesn't come into play.

Works for IGN.. played one game and knows the whole story.

[Bojan1es]

StrawberryRainPop wrote...

wow........way to stick to your guns IGN....honestly you dont even have 1 article or video that has someone who actually dislikes the ending and discusses why.....

and way to make fun of us.....

But they do have a poll on Facebook asking if people liked the ending..  10k say no, 1k say yes.... try checking the fanbase before you put the other foot in your mouth IGN?

Modifié par Bojan1es, 19 mars 2012 - 08:21 .

[Renew81]

Shows the true face of IGN its just pathetic ,
if you like the ending fine , i wont judge you.. your lucky.
but the way the bring it in that vid is just pathetic , they find themself quite ammusing.

its basically a F you to the fans you bought the game hopeing to get what was
promised, they did not get what was promised and now that people complain about
it we should just shut up and let it fly , i dont think so...

Hold the line !

[Jackal7713]

IGN I wouldn't take anything they say in account. They are bought an paid for by the rEApers.

[Deschi]

i must confess I loled at that ign sketch... being self ironic sometimes help

[Meltemph]

wtbusername wrote...

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

At this point, Ign and Destructoid remain the two gaming sites incapable of trying to understand the argument at hand. And it shows.

Not really. They are just exaggerating their ridicule of this whole controversy.

Kind of like how people are exaggerating how the last 5 minutes of a franchise ruins an entire series.

This is one of the most ignorant statements I have read.  You either never read books or watch movies or you are never disapointed(which would mean you are ok with crap no matter how bad it is).

I dont think I have to start naming off book or movie series, that, because the ending was so bad, made the overall series/books bad.

I'll leave you with this.

For anyone with perspective, I know I’m belaboring a point – a bad ending can ruin all, from prose to play – but the sad fact is: no other professional review of Mass Effect 3[/i] factored this ending into their universally positive ratings for the game, even though many acknowledged it as a problem. Not being one to claim conspiracy is to blame, I’d rather point to the more obvious culprit: ineptitude. A critic that can’t realize that narrative is often as important as gameplay – especially in an RPG – and that poorly constructed endings tarnish narrative quality  – especially as it is the last thing the audience sees – is a poor critic indeed. 

The gestalt of Mass Effect 3 is an end unjustified by its means, unworthy of defense. During its final moments it commits storytelling suicide, and the taste of decay it leaves in the mouth cripples the otherwise impeccable quality of what came before, poisoning even nostalgia against it. At best and being fair to the game’s other traits, the quality comes out a wash – simply mediocre.
http://calitreview.com/24673 

Modifié par Meltemph, 19 mars 2012 - 08:22 .

[Kajan451]

Versus Omnibus wrote...

They just won't stop, will they?

Now, why should they? Diana Something, that Warreporter chick is modeled after and voiced by someone from IGN.

You expect them to be anything but PRO Bioware. no matter what?

[Bojan1es]

wtbusername - out of intrest, do you work for IGN or the likes?

Just find it amusing that you only joined on 2012-03-13, troll much?

[TheNexus]

However I did appreciate the 8-bit Shepard/Garrus high five

[Ender99]

Go right ahead IGN, keep alienating your own fan-base. You're just doing our mission for us.

Hold the line.

[luzburg]

the can say what they want i starting to forget that site exsist....

[wtbusername]

tjmax wrote...

wtbusername wrote...

Wrong would imply a fact, so your statement is wrong because the fact is that this is a matter of opinion, nothing else.

If you're still following me, taken at face value, the ending doesn't invalidate anything.

Because if you were to take Shepard's journey as one cohesive story, replay value doesn't come into play.

Works for IGN.. played one game and knows the whole story.

Don't presume to know me.

That I actually joined BSN no longer then a week ago should tell you more about what I know of this fanbase than my gaming experience.

[Sequin]

The way they frame their argument, they are correct. The developer created the product and has every right to end it as they see fit. But that really has nothing to do with the Retake movement. And although I am not a member to it, I at least know enough about it to make an enlightened comment. IGN and RetakeME3 are making two different arguments, which is why IGN doesn't understand what you guys are fighting for or why. They are using the pre-established notion of developer rights. That's fine and everything, but it has nothing to do with what Retake is fighting for.

If Return of the Jedi ended with Luke fighting Darth Vader, losing the battle, then ascending to stand on top of the Death Star and speaking to a ghostly Ewok who informed Luke that he is the physical version of the Force and that he can allow Luke to save the galaxy by destroying all technology and stranding everyone on Endor before rolling credits, then IGN's argument would be that George Lucas created Star Wars and therefore has the right to end it as he pleases.

They'd be right.

However, a viewer could argue that that would be a poor ending without closure, foresight, or sense, offering more questions than answers, resolving nothing, and creating plot holes.

That viewer would be right.

And although George Lucas, as the creator, has every right to write that ending (and I wouldn't put it past him at this point), it would not change non-sensical literary fallacy. The truth is, there would be no "good" endings or "bad" endings if they weren't both created by someone, somewhere, at some point. That takes nothing away from a creator's rights to write a bad conclusion to THEIR story. But it also doesn't change it from being a bad ending.

When IGN understands this, they will have won half the battle.

[TheLostGenius]

IT was silly, the fact that you guys could even take offense to this means you are LOSING the line.