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[AnthonyF27]

CRISIS1717 wrote...

They had a walking IGN advert in the game, what do you expect?

yeah and besides the ending, she was the worst part of the game.

[TheRealMithril]

Meltemph wrote...

I was SO hoping wtbusername was goign to try and point out what I said to him was wrong... Instead he just goes away. These drive by comments people are making with no substance whatsoever when it comes to defending the actual written ending is annoying.

What is the point of coming onto a forum, saying "the ending is good", if you have no ability to actually defend it?

Then I'll defend it for him. He can like what he wants. I'll stand in opposition of that though, and respectfully disagree. To say I dislike the ending is a major understatement.

[Turran]

At the end of the day IGN can poke fun all they want.
Biwoare and EA will be losing money if nothing changes due to people not buying DLC, not replaying the game and telling others to stay clear as it has such a bad ending.
So IGN can say all they want, it is Bioware and EA whose opinion we care about.

[SweetJeeba]

wtbusername wrote...

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

wtbusername wrote...

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

wtbusername wrote...

Kind of like how people are exaggerating how the last 5 minutes of a franchise ruins an entire series.

A shame it's not an exaggeration.

Sure it isn't.

Whatever makes you people sleep at night.

I'm glad you at least see why you were wrong.

Wrong would imply a fact, so your statement is wrong because the fact is that this is a matter of opinion, nothing else.

If you're still following me, taken at face value, the ending doesn't invalidate anything.

Because if you were to take Shepard's journey as one cohesive story, replay value doesn't come into play.

You don't find it funny your giving an opinion

[Giantdeathrobot]

Don't click on any link to IGN and give them views/money people. It's that simple.

[Quietness]

honestly cant we just ignore the silly little troll and let this thing die? Who cares what IGN said.

[Meltemph]

Then I'll defend it for him. He can like what he wants. I'll stand in opposition of that though, and respectfully disagree. To say I dislike the ending is a major understatement.

Umm, I never said someone liking it is a problem. But when someone comes into a topic or post to contest taht the ending was good ther is NOTHING wrong with disagreeing with it and willing to disagree with statements.

Unless you are arguing that debate and discourse should go like this. "You are wrong" "No YOU are wrong". Unless you are willing to actually talk about the details of the ending, why would you try and ARGUE that the ending is good?

Modifié par Meltemph, 19 mars 2012 - 08:51 .

[VelvetStraitjacket]

IGN isn't relevant. Just ignore them and keep pushing and holding the line.

[Boceephus]

Giantdeathrobot wrote...

Don't click on any link to IGN and give them views/money people. It's that simple.

I'm with this guy.

Here's a nifty little quote to help keep the childish, unfunny and IGNorant video in perspective:

"I've been called worse things by better people" by Pierre Trudeau.

These
people are EMBARRASSING themselves in their articles and that video.
When people can't argue with someone about issues, they just try to
insult their character and that's exactly what's going on here.

If
a website with dignity and integrity was insulting us, sure, get
offended, get upset, try to debate with them. But when IGN does it? It's
like a 5 year old calling you a stupidhead. It's not worth giving them
the attention they crave when they don't even understand the lesson.

[Knive]

the point is that ultimately the developers are the creators of a work of art, and they can make whatever they invision it to be. say someone drew a picture, who are you to say that he HAS to change it, even if you paid for it.

[Valk72]

Wow i didn't think IGN could be more pathetic after their last attack, but they proved me wrong again...

[wtbusername]

Meltemph wrote...

I was SO hoping wtbusername was goign to try and point out what I said to him was wrong... Instead he just goes away. These drive by comments people are making with no substance whatsoever when it comes to defending the actual written ending is annoying.

What is the point of coming onto a forum, saying "the ending is good", if you have no ability to actually defend it?

Why would I put myself in a position to say if a critic review is right or wrong. It's (informed) opinion, nothing else.

I'm not going to defend the ending because I'm not looking for a discussion where I say that nothing about the last 20 min of the game should be taken at face value and people accuse me of grasping at straws.

It's impossible to have a clear argument about the ending of this game without someone forcing their opinion on you, stating why exactly, it is a colossal failure.

[mrderp27]

IGN is to gaming media as ESPN is to sports media. overrated and incompetent

[Valk72]

Knive wrote...

the point is that ultimately the developers are the creators of a work of art, and they can make whatever they invision it to be. say someone drew a picture, who are you to say that he HAS to change it, even if you paid for it.

Video Games are not works of art.

[Meltemph]

wtbusername wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

I was SO hoping wtbusername was goign to try and point out what I said to him was wrong... Instead he just goes away. These drive by comments people are making with no substance whatsoever when it comes to defending the actual written ending is annoying.

What is the point of coming onto a forum, saying "the ending is good", if you have no ability to actually defend it?

Why would I put myself in a position to say if a critic review is right or wrong. It's (informed) opinion, nothing else.

I'm not going to defend the ending because I'm not looking for a discussion where I say that nothing about the last 20 min of the game should be taken at face value and people accuse me of grasping at straws.

It's impossible to have a clear argument about the ending of this game without someone forcing their opinion on you, stating why exactly, it is a colossal failure.

Huh?  You essentially already were argueing by saying the last 5 min of a story(the ending) cant ruin a franchise.  I didnt say that, YOU DID.  What you are saying now, and what you said before are in conflict with each other.  

[BaladasDemnevanni]

Knive wrote...

the point is that ultimately the developers are the creators of a work of art, and they can make whatever they invision it to be. say someone drew a picture, who are you to say that he HAS to change it, even if you paid for it.

I'm the guy keeping him in business is who I am. The difference between the two scenarios? Someone can afford to draw without patrons, everyone else be damned. Can Bioware afford to produce projects on the scale of Mass Effect without a reliable consumer base is the real question. I can't force Bioware to change the ending, however (collectively) we can make sure they're aware of what they stand to lose if they don't.

Modifié par BaladasDemnevanni, 19 mars 2012 - 08:53 .

[Mithrawn]

IGN has been demeaning and not understanding through the entire ordeal. They are picking the most radical among us and focusing on that. People have legit concerns and that shouldn't be mocked.

[Boceephus]

Mithrawn wrote...

IGN has been demeaning and not understanding through the entire ordeal. They are picking the most radical among us and focusing on that. People have legit concerns and that shouldn't be mocked.

See though, that would require neutrality, integrity and basic journalism skills. Not really IGN's forte...

[TheRealMithril]

wtbusername wrote...

Kind of like how people are exaggerating how the last 5 minutes of a franchise ruins an entire series.

It is not an exaggeration.

Knowing the outcome is that bad leaves a sour taste in the mouth. Like watching a movie that ends like something out of Plan 9 from outer space. You'd never watch it again (unless you are into that sort of thing). That's why. Personally I felt the last minutes ruined everything. However, I am not so narrow minded. I know why I loved all 99.99% of the series, and I can play them again. I will be reluctant however, as I now find other games more interesting. This is not the kind of reaction any game studio wants.

However, I do enjoy the multiplayer still. Because it is not so much story related, so I can still experience the universe there.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Valk72 wrote...

Knive wrote...

the point is that ultimately the developers are the creators of a work of art, and they can make whatever they invision it to be. say someone drew a picture, who are you to say that he HAS to change it, even if you paid for it.

Video Games are not works of art.

They are pop art. Sorry.

[ticklefist]

You know the world's upside down when the nerds are the ones pulling frat boy pranks.

[Taphia]

this video was offensive. it's offensive and so not productive. =/

[eddieoctane]

How is IGN not in someone's pocket?


Obvious troll is obvious.

[TheRealMithril]

Meltemph wrote...

Then I'll defend it for him. He can like what he wants. I'll stand in opposition of that though, and respectfully disagree. To say I dislike the ending is a major understatement.

Umm, I never said someone liking it is a problem. But when someone comes into a topic or post to contest taht the ending was good ther is NOTHING wrong with disagreeing with it and willing to disagree with statements.

Unless you are arguing that debate and discourse should go like this. "You are wrong" "No YOU are wrong". Unless you are willing to actually talk about the details of the ending, why would you try and ARGUE that the ending is good?

My point is rather that he can have any opinion he likes, and he can argue for it. Your choice is to ignore him, or respond to his arguments. I know I don't like the endings, so explaining why I don't like them to every new poster that comes, is just not worth my time and effort. I much rather spend it on trying to convince BioWare to continue with the game and end it properly.

[locsphere]

Theory on IGN, Jessica Chobot??? Whatever her name is... I think all those guys are defending the game because she was in it. Not only was she in it, but in their own little nerd minds they finally got to shack up with her. I mean she must be taking this hard, as it was the first game she was in and it is getting hit hard by people who simply don't like it.

I feel bad, But if you see this Jessica, The fact that your in it does not make it a bad game. We were hoping for Emily Wong because we got to know that character. Your Character seemed kind of thrown in at the last minute and I mean your Alliance. I don't think even when I was in the Military uniforms were ever that revealing. So it was hard to swallow. For your first appearance though, I did say, I think I know her from somewhere. Somewhere on Xbox live, ANYWAYS...

We don't like the game because the endings were not fitting with the franchise. I hope you understand.