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[dipdunk]

 Does the "piercing damage" affect the armor, or the health underneath the armor?

Specifically, does an armor-piercing mod make a gun better against Brutes and Ravagers or less?

[Doriath]

This I've been wondering myself. I'm not getting the feeling like it helps vs anything that has an armor bar last, like the banshee and brute.

[TheProfessor234]

I've also been wondering about shooting through cover. I've never tried that before. It was my thought that cover was equal to god mode.

I only bring it up because armor piercing is related to shooting through cover, last I heard.

[dipdunk]

TheProfessor234 wrote...

I've also been wondering about shooting through cover. I've never tried that before. It was my thought that cover was equal to god mode.

I only bring it up because armor piercing is related to shooting through cover, last I heard.

I haven't tested shooting through cover or Guradian shields, but the AP mod DOES seem to blow right through the armor Marauders give Husks and Cannibals (and Cannibal armor, too).

[haitianzero]

dipdunk wrote...

TheProfessor234 wrote...

I've also been wondering about shooting through cover. I've never tried that before. It was my thought that cover was equal to god mode.

I only bring it up because armor piercing is related to shooting through cover, last I heard.

I haven't tested shooting through cover or Guradian shields, but the AP mod DOES seem to blow right through the armor Marauders give Husks and Cannibals (and Cannibal armor, too).

It works very well against Guardians and through cover. I also think it does more damage to Atlases when their only defense is Armor. I'm not sure about the other heavies though.

[jrus018]

this is how the piercing mod works...

example:

Assault Rifle Peircing Mod Rank 1
Defense Ignored 25%
Mattock single shot is 100 damage
enemy = health 100 points + armor 100 points
when hit will deal 25 dmg on health and 75 dmg on armor
works the same way with sheilds but not with barrier

while the piercing distance + piercing damage say it all
Assault Rifle Peircing Mod Rank 1
Piercing Distance: 0.50m
Piercing Damage: 40%
when u hit an enemy in cover of 0.50m
u will only deal 40% damage base of your weapon shot

Modifié par jrus018, 20 mars 2012 - 06:55 .

[Mabari Owns High Dragon The 2nd]

I was thinking it bypasses the reduced damage from the enemies armor and deals full weapon damage. The damage reduction from the Mod only takes precedence when you firing through cover.

[kotli]

Well I think it means it ignores a % of armour built in damage resistance but this is so puny that you don't notice it unless it been Marauder buffed.
Oh there is one thing that can make it do more damage vs the big nasties is to shoot them from an angle where the damage sees it as 2 hits, works on Geth Pyros for sure head shot ignites there tanks if you line them up right.

[Frostmourne86]

Does anyone know what the stats are with Penetration Mod X?

[jrus018]

Frostmourne86 wrote...

Does anyone know what the stats are with Penetration Mod X?

http://masseffect.wi...(Mass_Effect_3)

[Frostmourne86]

The stats on that page only go up to the fifth upgrade (V). I'm talking about the tenth upgrade (X).

[jrus018]

i think the max level of mod is V
there is none after that, playing on my 3rd playthrough already!

[Frostmourne86]

Why then do weapons go up to X if mods don't?

[Xariann]

Frostmourne86 wrote...

Why then do weapons go up to X if mods don't?

I guess it's because it's how BioWare decided to do it.

Modifié par Xariann, 20 mars 2012 - 09:39 .

[x-president]

Are these mods really worth using? I've pretty much only used them and dmg increases, but I started switching out and it seems like it's doing the same dmg. I think it's just better to increase ammo and dmg.

Modifié par x-president, 21 mars 2012 - 02:03 .

[Athenau]

jrus018 wrote...

this is how the piercing mod works...

example:

Assault Rifle Peircing Mod Rank 1
Defense Ignored 25%
Mattock single shot is 100 damage
enemy = health 100 points + armor 100 points
when hit will deal 25 dmg on health and 75 dmg on armor
works the same way with sheilds but not with barrier

This is wrong. See social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/347/index/9822648#10321708

Modifié par Athenau, 21 mars 2012 - 02:40 .

[Dark83]

Wait wait wait. People keep mentioning dealing damage to health past armor. What exactly are you talking about? It's certainly not a Yellow (armor) bar over their Red (health) bar, I don't recall seeing any enemies with that. Usually it's Red, Blue (shield/barrier) over Red, Yellow, or Blue over Yellow. Have I forgotten some enemy somewhere?

This is why there's two different aspects to penetration mod/powers.

First there's cover (and things that work like cover, like a buffed Cannibal's plating or a Guardian's tower shield). The mod/powers will penetrate a certain thickness of cover (dealing reduced damage after penetration).

Second is the Yellow bar, which functions similarly to a health bar but negates all incoming damage by a flat amount. (That's why slow high damage weapons are better than fast low damage weapons for that.) Armor effectiveness decrease reduces the amount it negates.

What this means is that against a Brute, a sniper rifle won't see much difference in damage off the Yellow bar because the armor wasn't reducing a signifigant portion of the incoming damage, but there will be a noticable difference with an assault rifle.

Example: (Armor takes off 10 points, mod weakens armor by 50%.)
Sniper rifle fires 1 round every 2 seconds at 1000 damage. 500 DPS.
Without mod, target takes 990 damage on a hit, for 495 DPS.
With the mod, target takes 995 damage on a hit, for 497.5 DPS.

Assault rifle fires 20 rounds every second for 25 damage. 500 DPS.
Without mod, target takes 15 damage on a hit, for 300 DPS.
With the mod, target takes 20 damage on a hit, for 400 DPS.

See the difference?

Modifié par Dark83, 21 mars 2012 - 04:56 .

[SPNPelico]

I had assault rifle AP mod equiped at the same time a lvl2 assault rifle dmge bonus on silver versing collectors and I did some serious damage to Scions and Preats, I mean serious stuff I was takin them on without powers and no team assisstance