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[Atarun]

illsteward wrote...
Dear sir,

I would very much like to address your tone in this message as I find it quite offensive.
As to address this matter, following denotations have been used by me:
Sentences and structures in BOLD contain atttacks, mostly ad hominem, that are useless and doesn't serve your purpose. They, in fact, diminish it as you are more likely to be ridiculed, than to be accepted.
The structure in BOLD & ITALIC is denoted as special due to it's content. You claim to be artist. From the rest of your post, I may suggest that you are a rap/hardcore/punk mussician. You see, I am an artist myself. I actually find delight in the endings. But the amount of rage concentrated in such a small space of relatively few characters is astondishing. It makes me wonder what miracles of intelligence does your mind ponder that leave me utterly speechless and confused.
By no means I consider myself living "in a cave" but maybe such habitat may prove hospitable for someone of your manners. Regardless, I think the best course of action is to report this assault to proper autorithies and consider it done.

Sincerely,
Illsteward, the Husk

Illsteward the Husk FTW!

Too bad banning the OP won't do any justice: he has fled already, or so he said. 

[Karimloo]

DonYourAviators wrote...

I'm a fellow artist. I know what pain is like.

I'm an artist too. So what? What the hell are you artists trying to say here?

That we just accept your **** because you're an artist?

No. If we don't like something, you don't get commissions, you don't get interviews, if your employer does not like the artwork, you have to change.

It's not a bunch of whiners, it's like, what is the number now? 60'000? 40'000? I don't know. Obviously if THAT many people are opposed, there's something wrong.

When someone critiques your work what do you do? Tell them off? Tell them they're a whiner? No, listen their feedback, take it, and fix your work (IF they're constructive and have a point) <- IN this case of Mass Effect, the fans who want a change DO.

Modifié par Karimloo, 19 mars 2012 - 10:06 .

[jakal66]

I'm sorry but I don't see them creating a new ending,the only thing I see is a dlc which deals with what happened after the "best ending"...i'm not going to go into detals due to spoilers but I hope you see what I mean.

[cuzsal]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...

I'm only  4 hours into the game and loving it.

stoped reading there

finsh the game then tell us how you feel about the ending, personally i was in awe at how amazing mass effect 3 was till the final 10 mins or so, the ending just makes you go WTF?? then look on fourms to see if u did somthing wrong lol

again...

finsh game first then tell us

Modifié par cuzsal, 19 mars 2012 - 10:06 .

[Atarun]

aLucidMind wrote...
Shut up, then because you're opinion of us is now invalid. Finish the game first if you want your opinion of the ending and of those wanting a half-decent ending to be valid.

Finishing the game doesn't make your opinion of anyone valid. Everyone is entitled to their taste and opinion. It's okay to like the ending. It's okay to say so anywhere. It's okay to argue against us.

But it's not okay to degrade and insult people. In any circumstances.

No number of hours spent on the game would make the OP's comments acceptable, really. 

[NewUszi]

Kanner wrote...

You fumble in ignorance.

Incapable of understanding.

[az350z]

Karimloo wrote...

DonYourAviators wrote...

I'm a fellow artist. I know what pain is like.

I'm an artist too. So what? What the hell are you artists trying to say here?

That we just accept your **** because you're an artist?

No. If we don't like something, you don't get commissions, you don't get interviews, if your employer does not like the artwork, you have to change.

It's not a bunch of whiners, it's like, what is the number now? 60'000? 40'000? I don't know. Obviously if THAT many people are opposed, there's something wrong.

When someone critiques your work what do you do? Tell them off? Tell them they're a whiner? No, listen their feedback, take it, and fix your work (IF they're constructive and have a point) <- IN this case of Mass Effect, the fans who want a change DO.

This whole post is hilarious. And the answer to several of your questions is yes.

Its especially hilarious because YOU think you're the employer. Artist approved, supervisor approved, department approved, lead approved, Bioware approved, EA approved. Who's THEIR boss that's saying they don't like the work? LOL.....you?! Thousands of "You" ????

Incredible.

Modifié par az350z, 19 mars 2012 - 10:10 .

[Artemis_Entrari]

For anyone who insists changing the ending is ridiculous, or asking too much, I suggest you google "Broken Steel".  It can be done, and if enough fans (and it's looking like there are) want it, it should be done.

[toolfan9284]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...

I'm only  4 hours into the game and loving it..

Stopped reading when I got to this part...

[upredictable]

Dear OP, go finish the game, and them give us your opinion.Don´t talk about things u dont know.So go play this great game, son.

[Chuvvy]

"Hey guys, I have no context on this subject whatsoever, but just so you know. You're wrong."

See you in the support group in a few days bro.

[RebelTitan428]

i dont know how they expect people to buy DLC after that ending.
having the most advanced ship (normandy) = pointless
becoming a spectre = pointless
saving the rachni = pointless
saving ashley/kaidan = pointless
saving the council = pointless
being ressurected by cerberus = pointless
assembling an amazing squad to stop the collectors = pointless
stopping the collectors = pointless
kasumi/zaeed/overlord = pointless
the arrival = delaying pointlessness
krogan & turian allies = pointless
peace with quarians and geth = pointless
quarians and geth allies = pointless
everything you've sacraficed, every decision, every side quest and replay of the same game more than one....you guessed it = POINTLESS

one ending for everyone, or we were sold a rushed and unfinished game.

thanks BW, for making what used to be my favorite video game and then ruining the entrire franchise in less than 10 minutes of dialogue-less confusion that betrays the story you established.

Modifié par RebelTitan428, 19 mars 2012 - 10:15 .

[Xena_Shepard]

az350z wrote...

I will be very disappointed if Bioware changes the ending. Giving into whiners is bad practice. Its Bioware's game, NOT yours. If you don't like it, try getting a life.

Good job Bioware. And don't second-guess your product that so much work was put into.

PS before anyone says something stupid, I never specified if I liked the ending or didn't like the ending. IT DOESN'T MATTER. The sooner you realize that, the better. Welcome to life?

Giving into whiners is a bad practice? But they already gave into EA wholesale.

Modifié par Xena_Shepard, 19 mars 2012 - 10:13 .

[SidNitzerglobin]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...

I'm only  4 hours into the game and loving it. I'm also, aware, because I do not live in a cave, that the only natural ending it can have, is Shepard dying (This is not a spoiler, as I have no clue as to what the actual ending is like, but death feels like the only right end.)

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Finish the game then come talk to me, trollboy....

My complaints are not about artistic content, they're about quality of execution.

[Morty Smith]

OP is not playing the game, he is playing you. Laugh it off.

[FatalX7.0]

Karimloo wrote...

DonYourAviators wrote...

I'm a fellow artist. I know what pain is like.

I'm an artist too. So what? What the hell are you artists trying to say here?

That we just accept your **** because you're an artist?

No. If we don't like something, you don't get commissions, you don't get interviews, if your employer does not like the artwork, you have to change.

It's not a bunch of whiners, it's like, what is the number now? 60'000? 40'000? I don't know. Obviously if THAT many people are opposed, there's something wrong.

When someone critiques your work what do you do? Tell them off? Tell them they're a whiner? No, listen their feedback, take it, and fix your work (IF they're constructive and have a point) <- IN this case of Mass Effect, the fans who want a change DO.

He was making a joke.

[jakal66]

Artemis_Entrari wrote...

For anyone who insists changing the ending is ridiculous, or asking too much, I suggest you google "Broken Steel".  It can be done, and if enough fans (and it's looking like there are) want it, it should be done.

Well, I'm sorry I just don't see Bioware doing this, closest thing is thed indoc theory,somthing happening beyond that or as a result from that....but they whole starchild is not going to be erased...

If it does,well then great, I'd be happy but the realistic in me feels this is not going to happen,at least not in the way some people feel it's gotta happen

[MsKlaussen]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...

I'm only  4 hours into the game and loving it. I'm also, aware, because I do not live in a cave, that the only natural ending it can have, is Shepard dying (This is not a spoiler, as I have no clue as to what the actual ending is like, but death feels like the only right end.)

For people to complain that it wasn't "as heroic as they expected" is utterly, astonishingly idiotic. While at it, boycott your favorite musicians. Tell them to only write X types of songs because you only like THEM. Hell, mail your favorite authors about writing ONLY ABOUT THINGS YOU LOVE! Let's kill ALL creative freedom and just petulantly stomp our feet and beg for our nerdy white blubberbellies to be pandered to.

Are you serious?

I am not a forum poster. I will most likely not return to chek replies on this thread, but as a fellow artist, I wanted to give the team my heartfelt support and congratulations and tell them to not change one iota about their masterpiece.

Whiners and geeklords, fat goth chicks and nude modders, burn in hell, you subnormal bunch of self-serving dweebs.

This concludes the portion of our Debate Failing for Dummies course covering false dilemmas, appeals to ridicule and red herrings ladies and gentlemen.

If you'll step this way, we've got a wonderful assortment of flavored sparkling water for your refreshment drawn directly from our own poisoned well. <_<

[Xena_Shepard]

SidNitzerglobin wrote...

Borrachofunk69 wrote...

I'm only  4 hours into the game and loving it. I'm also, aware, because I do not live in a cave, that the only natural ending it can have, is Shepard dying (This is not a spoiler, as I have no clue as to what the actual ending is like, but death feels like the only right end.)

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Finish the game then come talk to me, trollboy....

My complaints are not about artistic content, they're about quality of execution.

Very well put. This has little to do about artistic freedom. To use the OP's own examples against him, this is the same as your favorite author releasing a book that's half-finished because his publisher was pressuring him with an arbitrary deadline, not that the author wrote something people didn't like. Personally, I'm fine with the content of the ending, it's just that the quality of the ending is half-baked, at best.

[AgitatedLemon]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...

I'm only  4 hours into the game and loving it. I'm also, aware, because I do not live in a cave, that the only natural ending it can have, is Shepard dying (This is not a spoiler, as I have no clue as to what the actual ending is like, but death feels like the only right end.)

Aaaaaaand, this is where I stopped taking your seriously.

Actually experience the abominations before you comment on them. You'd have to be blind to not see the plot holes, contrived reasoning, and circular logic presented by the last 5 minutes of the game.

[Naughty Bear]

Op. Honestly i was in the same boat as you, everyone was saying the end was real ****.

I didn't believe it at first and i presumed everyone thought the ending was bad because well since it's a Galactic war i guessed the ending would be sad or grim atleast or something along those lines.

Oh boy was i wrong. When i saw the ending my first first responce was 'what the ****', after the final scene and then credits appear by second responce was 'thats it?!'.

It's even ****tier than Halo 2 ending. And i was pissed after that, with the Arbiter being a main character and not even a step on Earth, i thought i brought a knock-off Halo 2 or got the wrong game.

[Siansonea]

"I haven't beaten the game, I haven't seen the ending."

"I don't think people should complain about the ending."

This is like men taking a stand on women's reproductive rights. Come back to the party when you know what you're talking about, pal.

[Wolf]

It is a completely different matter than a musician putting out a song. People have different tastes in music.

I myself, for example love Florence + The Machine but I know a few people that hate their music.

The developers have, over the years, told us that we were crafting this story WITH them, not the opposite. Wait until you finish the game before you assume things. See if you like the conclusion first. If you do, great... if not, well... join the fray.

Insulting the rest of us because we disagree with an opinion you have not even had enough experience to form is highly unfair and inappropriate. Keep at it if you must, but know that it makes you the lesser person for it.

Modifié par Gaiden96, 19 mars 2012 - 10:21 .

[sTrYkZ1LLa]

Casey Hudson “It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.”