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[NukeZen]

RebelTitan428 wrote...

i dont know how they expect people to buy DLC after that ending.
having the most advanced ship (normandy) = pointless
becoming a spectre = pointless
saving the rachni = pointless
saving ashley/kaidan = pointless
saving the council = pointless
being ressurected by cerberus = pointless
assembling an amazing squad to stop the collectors = pointless
stopping the collectors = pointless
kasumi/zaeed/overlord = pointless
the arrival = delaying pointlessness
krogan & turian allies = pointless
peace with quarians and geth = pointless
quarians and geth allies = pointless
everything you've sacraficed, every decision, every side quest and replay of the same game more than one....you guessed it = POINTLESS

Well... you fight against the reapers not as equal, but in a DESPERATE BATTLE TO SURVIVE. So everything matters. This is the point about this crusade i really dont understend. Why for you all was pointless?

[Wolf]

illsteward wrote...
Dear sir,

I would very much like to address your tone in this message as I find it quite offensive.
As to address this matter, following denotations have been used by me:
Sentences and structures in BOLD contain atttacks, mostly ad hominem, that are useless and doesn't serve your purpose. They, in fact, diminish it as you are more likely to be ridiculed, than to be accepted.
The structure in BOLD & ITALIC is denoted as special due to it's content. You claim to be artist. From the rest of your post, I may suggest that you are a rap/hardcore/punk mussician. You see, I am an artist myself. I actually find delight in the endings. But the amount of rage concentrated in such a small space of relatively few characters is astondishing. It makes me wonder what miracles of intelligence does your mind ponder that leave me utterly speechless and confused.
By no means I consider myself living "in a cave" but maybe such habitat may prove hospitable for someone of your manners. Regardless, I think the best course of action is to report this assault to proper autorithies and consider it done.

Sincerely,
Illsteward, the Husk

Like a sir!

[Nevaeh15]

news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57400148-1/bioware-considering-changing-mass-effect-3-ending/ 


Cough cough cough.... 

Doesn't seem too ridiculous.    

[aksoileau]

Lol @ only 4 hours in. At 34.5 hours I was ready to crown ME3 as the greatest game I've ever played. Then that .5 hour happened at the end.

[Artemis_Entrari]

jakal66 wrote...

Artemis_Entrari wrote...

For anyone who insists changing the ending is ridiculous, or asking too much, I suggest you google "Broken Steel".  It can be done, and if enough fans (and it's looking like there are) want it, it should be done.

Well, I'm sorry I just don't see Bioware doing this, closest thing is thed indoc theory,somthing happening beyond that or as a result from that....but they whole starchild is not going to be erased...

If it does,well then great, I'd be happy but the realistic in me feels this is not going to happen,at least not in the way some people feel it's gotta happen

That's what I mean though.  I didn't say "erase" the current ending, just add on (like Broken Steel did) stuff somehow that shows it's not the real ending.  The indoctrination theory would be an example of this, where Shep "wakes up" after the events of the current ending and the game continues on for another 30 minutes to the real conclusion.

It can be done, and really, if BioWare is the least bit creative (and they've shown they CAN be), it's not as arduous a task as some folks seem to believe.

[SamJH90]

"Whiners and geeklords, fat goth chicks and nude modders, burn in hell, you subnormal bunch of self-serving dweebs."

Must have been up all night thinking of that one, OP. I imagine your own 'art' will suck too.

See you in 30 hours or so anyway on the other board.

[_symphony]

defending this ending for the sake of art is something laughable. What they did with the ending isn't art.

[Karimloo]

az350z wrote...

Karimloo wrote...

DonYourAviators wrote...

I'm a fellow artist. I know what pain is like.

I'm an artist too. So what? What the hell are you artists trying to say here?

That we just accept your **** because you're an artist?

No. If we don't like something, you don't get commissions, you don't get interviews, if your employer does not like the artwork, you have to change.

It's not a bunch of whiners, it's like, what is the number now? 60'000? 40'000? I don't know. Obviously if THAT many people are opposed, there's something wrong.

When someone critiques your work what do you do? Tell them off? Tell them they're a whiner? No, listen their feedback, take it, and fix your work (IF they're constructive and have a point) <- IN this case of Mass Effect, the fans who want a change DO.

This whole post is hilarious. And the answer to several of your questions is yes.

Its especially hilarious because YOU think you're the employer. Artist approved, supervisor approved, department approved, lead approved, Bioware approved, EA approved. Who's THEIR boss that's saying they don't like the work? LOL.....you?! Thousands of "You" ????

Incredible.

What the hell are you talking about. I don't even know what point of the argument you're referring to. What part did I make myself to be the employer?

A whole lot of assumption and interpretation that you want make for yourself. Also, if you think that critics are whiners and that they can't CRITIC art, makes you an ignorant troll.

[MsKlaussen]

kamikazen wrote...

RebelTitan428 wrote...

i dont know how they expect people to buy DLC after that ending.
having the most advanced ship (normandy) = pointless
becoming a spectre = pointless
saving the rachni = pointless
saving ashley/kaidan = pointless
saving the council = pointless
being ressurected by cerberus = pointless
assembling an amazing squad to stop the collectors = pointless
stopping the collectors = pointless
kasumi/zaeed/overlord = pointless
the arrival = delaying pointlessness
krogan & turian allies = pointless
peace with quarians and geth = pointless
quarians and geth allies = pointless
everything you've sacraficed, every decision, every side quest and replay of the same game more than one....you guessed it = POINTLESS

Well... you fight against the reapers not as equal, but in a DESPERATE BATTLE TO SURVIVE. So everything matters. This is the point about this crusade i really dont understend. Why for you all was pointless?

You would need to be aware of the differences between endings to understand that, and since this is a no spoiler thread, I can't describe them to you. But they are available online and after watching them if you can still find the variance in all those decisions to believe in it then nobody can deny you that right.

[Iyerbeth]

At 4 hours in I thought it was the greatest game I'd played for some time, if not ever. It's amazing. The problem is the end, not everything up to that point. If I were to list everything awesome about the game it'd be quite a long list, Bioware really created something awesome. It's just that the ending is bigger than all of that awesomeness. When fixed I can go back to loving ME3 as my favourite game of at least this year.

[Headrusher]

People are not complaining about whether the ending is "Heroic" enough or not you gigantic ______.

People are complaining that the ending did not live up to the promises that Bioware made to the fans prior to the game's release.

Jesus Christ how many times must we explain this sh*t?!

Also, basing your opinion on 4 hours into the game? That's like buying a salvage title car, driving it 10 miles down the road and declaring it to be the best car ever made.

Goddamnit stupidity is rampant these days.

[RebelTitan428]

regardless of if the ending is changed or not, it can be stated without a doubt that mass effect 3 was released with the most dissapointing finish ever in a video game, and will be remembered not for all the great things they did in terms of storytelling or graphics, but by letting down the majority of the fans and betraying the story they established.

7 years summed up in 10 minutes of rushed confusion.

Modifié par RebelTitan428, 19 mars 2012 - 10:37 .

[CPTHughJardon]

apparently the interpretation of art as far as the art argument for ME3 is concerned is something like this:
i'll promise to sell you the best picture you've ever seen...deal.you pay me i send you a blank sheet of paper.you complain about and i tell you it really is art and you should debate over it look at and interpret it however you want.in the real world iv sold you a blank sheet of paper,lied to you and have no defense but to say its open to interpretation and because art is taste and interpretation most of the time it sounds acceptable.but iv done no work im making you see what you want to and pay me for using you're own mind.....genius

[-Zorph-]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...

I'm only  4 hours into the game and loving it. I'm also, aware, because I do not live in a cave, that the only natural ending it can have, is Shepard dying (This is not a spoiler, as I have no clue as to what the actual ending is like, but death feels like the only right end.)

For people to complain that it wasn't "as heroic as they expected" is utterly, astonishingly idiotic. While at it, boycott your favorite musicians. Tell them to only write X types of songs because you only like THEM. Hell, mail your favorite authors about writing ONLY ABOUT THINGS YOU LOVE! Let's kill ALL creative freedom and just petulantly stomp our feet and beg for our nerdy white blubberbellies to be pandered to.

Are you serious?

I am not a forum poster. I will most likely not return to chek replies on this thread, but as a fellow artist, I wanted to give the team my heartfelt support and congratulations and tell them to not change one iota about their masterpiece.

Whiners and geeklords, fat goth chicks and nude modders, burn in hell, you subnormal bunch of self-serving dweebs.

If a company once the consumer's money, they should morally know that they have to deliver a satisfying product to said consumer.

Your post is not only personally offensive, but rediculous in itself.  You speak to that of which you do not understand. The emotional investment, not to mention time investment made in the Mass Effect series demands a satisfactory ending that brings closure to what we put our hearts into.  We didn't get that, even remotely.

[Weskerr]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...

I'm only  4 hours into the game and loving it. I'm also, aware, because I do not live in a cave, that the only natural ending it can have, is Shepard dying (This is not a spoiler, as I have no clue as to what the actual ending is like, but death feels like the only right end.)

For people to complain that it wasn't "as heroic as they expected" is utterly, astonishingly idiotic. While at it, boycott your favorite musicians. Tell them to only write X types of songs because you only like THEM. Hell, mail your favorite authors about writing ONLY ABOUT THINGS YOU LOVE! Let's kill ALL creative freedom and just petulantly stomp our feet and beg for our nerdy white blubberbellies to be pandered to.

Are you serious?

I am not a forum poster. I will most likely not return to chek replies on this thread, but as a fellow artist, I wanted to give the team my heartfelt support and congratulations and tell them to not change one iota about their masterpiece.

Whiners and geeklords, fat goth chicks and nude modders, burn in hell, you subnormal bunch of self-serving dweebs.

Are you serious?

[bkp360]

Pathetic. Just stop buying ME stuff and they will get the message. Or go be a sheeple and fall into line and keep getting ripped off. Whatever.

[IST]

Kanner wrote...

You fumble in ignorance.

[Deepo78]

 I envy where Borrachofunk69 is right now. The world is better place for him, like Schrodingers Cat he exists in two alternate realities at once. The first plane is where Mass Effect 3 is a satisfying and rousing conclusion to one of the most storied trilogy's in gaming history....the second is where the rest of us live.

Modifié par Deepo78, 19 mars 2012 - 10:46 .

[NukeZen]

MsKlaussen wrote...

kamikazen wrote...

RebelTitan428 wrote...

i dont know how they expect people to buy DLC after that ending.
having the most advanced ship (normandy) = pointless
becoming a spectre = pointless
saving the rachni = pointless
saving ashley/kaidan = pointless
saving the council = pointless
being ressurected by cerberus = pointless
assembling an amazing squad to stop the collectors = pointless
stopping the collectors = pointless
kasumi/zaeed/overlord = pointless
the arrival = delaying pointlessness
krogan & turian allies = pointless
peace with quarians and geth = pointless
quarians and geth allies = pointless
everything you've sacraficed, every decision, every side quest and replay of the same game more than one....you guessed it = POINTLESS

Well... you fight against the reapers not as equal, but in a DESPERATE BATTLE TO SURVIVE. So everything matters. This is the point about this crusade i really dont understend. Why for you all was pointless?

You would need to be aware of the differences between endings to understand that, and since this is a no spoiler thread, I can't describe them to you. But they are available online and after watching them if you can still find the variance in all those decisions to believe in it then nobody can deny you that right.

Ok, since now i've played 2 possible endings, and for me, both were good. You say that in the end, there are only minor difference between the finals? True. But is this the problem? How can you imagine a TOTAL PERFECT GOOD HAPPY ending in a war of that scale? Against an enemy like that, after the annhilition of dozen of planets and bilions of life forms in ALL THE GALAXY? I mean, if we are talking about a final more colplete, with the fate of all the main characters we met in the 3 games, after the end of the war, ok, i agree. But if is not the case, what we are talking about? And belive me, im not looking down you nor every one who relly think this finals are ugly. All this rage against bioware is a litte exagerated, confronted to the problem, dont you think?

PS: i now, my english sucks, sorry. Hope you understeand too.

[Borrachofunk69]

Such passion...people, it's matter of principle. Regardless of how I feel about the ending,I'd lose all respect who changes a CORE aspect of their art just to please roughly 4 pages of nude modders and tali-huggers.

Don't you get it? No one cares about your "expectations". "Expectations" is the loser dweeb's word for "I'm entitled because I get beat up at school so I have to be entitled to SOMETHING!"

Not liking it? Sure. Hell, maybe I won't like it! But petitioning for the company to change it? That's what I have an issue with. It's a work of intellect. It's creative art. If you don't like some or all of it, by all means, say so. But to go on to have petitions and DEMAND changes? Jesus...

PS How about an all out anti nude modder/ Tali Hugger/ Comicbook Weeper/Trailer Screamer bashing league?

[HanPL]

People please stop feeding the troll.
Let the topic die in peace.

[sTrYkZ1LLa]

Haha 4 hrs into the game enjoy the honeymoon. I was fine to with Shepard dying I made my peace with that before playing then you hit the last 10 mins of pure garbage I guarantee you will say what was that bs and reload a save because reality hasn't set in yet. Then you will want to run a ng+ the realize why there's no replay value in this, then I suggest you play multiplayer to cleanse you palate. I'm already at the Acceptance stage of this I just hope me3 multiplayer last till Witcher 2 hits Xbox.

[kidbd15]

az350z wrote...

I will be very disappointed if Bioware changes the ending. Giving into whiners is bad practice. Its Bioware's game, NOT yours. If you don't like it, try getting a life.

Good job Bioware. And don't second-guess your product that so much work was put into.

PS before anyone says something stupid, I never specified if I liked the ending or didn't like the ending. IT DOESN'T MATTER. The sooner you realize that, the better. Welcome to life?

http://social.biowar...3032/1#10274163

[ncknck]

CPTHughJardon wrote...


i send you a blank sheet of paper. you complain about and i tell you it really is art and you should debate over it look at and interpret it however you want.in the real world iv sold you a blank sheet of paper,lied to you and have no defense but to say its open to interpretation and because art is taste and interpretation most of the time it sounds acceptable.but iv done no work im making you see what you want to and pay me for using you're own mind.....genius

Thats a.. great or rather funny post. Although i wouldnt expect an understanding

I took refuge in the square form and exhibited a picture which consisted of nothing more than a black square on a white field, the critics and, along with them, the public sighed, "Everything which we loved is lost. We are in a desert... Before us is nothing but a black square on a white background!"

"The square seemed incomprehensible and dangerous to the critics and the public... and this, of course, was to be expected."

Should pretty much bold all of this. Google, what the painting is and who the painter is. Not Hollywood.

Some more

"This was no "empty square" which I had exhibited but rather the feeling of nonobjectivity."

Black Square is a feeling
Black Square is a void
Black Square is God
Black Square is an icon
Black Square is zero of painting
Black Square is painting beyond painting

Are you people even trying? You are given a great opportunity, enjoy it.

[tfKR3W]

why dont you finish the game before coming to the spoiler section ******