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[chapa3]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...

Such passion...people, it's matter of principle. Regardless of how I feel about the ending,I'd lose all respect who changes a CORE aspect of their art just to please roughly 4 pages of nude modders and tali-huggers.

Don't you get it? No one cares about your "expectations". "Expectations" is the loser dweeb's word for "I'm entitled because I get beat up at school so I have to be entitled to SOMETHING!"

Not liking it? Sure. Hell, maybe I won't like it! But petitioning for the company to change it? That's what I have an issue with. It's a work of intellect. It's creative art. If you don't like some or all of it, by all means, say so. But to go on to have petitions and DEMAND changes? Jesus...

PS How about an all out anti nude modder/ Tali Hugger/ Comicbook Weeper/Trailer Screamer bashing league?

They can demand all they want. If Bioware caves, and you encounter the same issue, doesn't mean you have to cave.

Personally, I am in the 'not really care' camp. I am actually waiting for the price to drop a bit more so I can save some money, but I fully watched the storyline in advance.

[Hanabii]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...

I'm only  4 hours into the game and loving it. I'm also, aware, because I do not live in a cave, that the only natural ending it can have, is Shepard dying (This is not a spoiler, as I have no clue as to what the actual ending is like, but death feels like the only right end.)

For people to complain that it wasn't "as heroic as they expected" is utterly, astonishingly idiotic. While at it, boycott your favorite musicians. Tell them to only write X types of songs because you only like THEM. Hell, mail your favorite authors about writing ONLY ABOUT THINGS YOU LOVE! Let's kill ALL creative freedom and just petulantly stomp our feet and beg for our nerdy white blubberbellies to be pandered to.

Are you serious?

I am not a forum poster. I will most likely not return to chek replies on this thread, but as a fellow artist, I wanted to give the team my heartfelt support and congratulations and tell them to not change one iota about their masterpiece.

Whiners and geeklords, fat goth chicks and nude modders, burn in hell, you subnormal bunch of self-serving dweebs.

You quite obviously haven't reached the ending. Read the advertizements for the game. Counted of the developer's promises.

If you look at the ending, what the devs promise, what happened and what the end does with everything you will be left sitting there in the dark with a plot with more holes then swiss cheese and 3 endings. Only 1 if you are colorblind.

So before you go out and get yourself postlocked, deleted and flamed for being a jerk to other members, perhaps you should play to the ending first.

There a more then 20 easily spottible discrepencies in the ending. It would be like replacing the last 5 Chapters of Return of the King with "And Mount Doom Blew up and everybody died and the lava overflowed from mordor and burned all of middle earth." EVEN THAT has less plot holes then the current ending.

[Asharad Hett]

Finish the game.... and then:

HOLD THE LINE!

[Zhuinden]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...

I'm only  4 hours into the game and loving it. I'm also, aware, because I do not live in a cave, that the only natural ending it can have, is Shepard dying (This is not a spoiler, as I have no clue as to what the actual ending is like, but death feels like the only right end.)

You do realize that most people who say the ending should be changed had enjoyed the first 38 hours of the game, and the last 10 minutes after being shot by Harbinger's laser pretty much negated the entire experience by being rushed, pointless, unchangeable and illogical, and made all your choices meaningless as all you pick in the end is the color of the explosion, and none of what happens is explained; right? Not to mention that either everyone just starves to death, or are killed by the explosion of the mass relays.
(This is the spoiler section, figured I can talk spoilers then.)

Please, know what you're talking about before you diss on people. -.-

Modifié par Zhuinden, 19 mars 2012 - 10:57 .

[wasawsolos]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...

Such passion...people, it's matter of principle. Regardless of how I feel about the ending,I'd lose all respect who changes a CORE aspect of their art just to please roughly 4 pages of nude modders and tali-huggers.

Don't you get it? No one cares about your "expectations". "Expectations" is the loser dweeb's word for "I'm entitled because I get beat up at school so I have to be entitled to SOMETHING!"

Not liking it? Sure. Hell, maybe I won't like it! But petitioning for the company to change it? That's what I have an issue with. It's a work of intellect. It's creative art. If you don't like some or all of it, by all means, say so. But to go on to have petitions and DEMAND changes? Jesus...

PS How about an all out anti nude modder/ Tali Hugger/ Comicbook Weeper/Trailer Screamer bashing league?

If we go by the "it's art, deal with it" arguement, then I can safely compare it to "The Lord of the Rings."  What if Tolkien wrote the first two books, then hyped up the third book, and then you find out that 1/4 of the book has it's pages ripped out and you have no idea what happened?  What would you do? 

I for one would have done what I am doing here, protest for a better ending, protest to get my monies worth.

[2484Stryker]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...
I'm only  4 hours into the game

And here we go...again...

[Eain]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...

I'm only  4 hours into the game

Stopped reading here.

[Reiella]

I don't think many folks earnestly are suggest a total change [some are, sure, some very vocal ones too], but more an expansion of details with the ending so that it makes sense.

I agree that dismiss restarting isn't that great of an option, but, there is certainly room within any framework to add more detail [even if it does slightly retcon what was already presented].

[2484Stryker]

Eain wrote...

Borrachofunk69 wrote...

I'm only  4 hours into the game

Stopped reading here.

Exactly.

[Vaktathi]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...

Such passion...people, it's matter of principle. Regardless of how I feel about the ending,I'd lose all respect who changes a CORE aspect of their art just to please roughly 4 pages of nude modders and tali-huggers.

Don't you get it? No one cares about your "expectations". "Expectations" is the loser dweeb's word for "I'm entitled because I get beat up at school so I have to be entitled to SOMETHING!"

Not liking it? Sure. Hell, maybe I won't like it! But petitioning for the company to change it? That's what I have an issue with. It's a work of intellect. It's creative art. If you don't like some or all of it, by all means, say so. But to go on to have petitions and DEMAND changes? Jesus...

PS How about an all out anti nude modder/ Tali Hugger/ Comicbook Weeper/Trailer Screamer bashing league?

You still really don't get it, and aren't trying to get it, and certainly aren't knowledgable enough about the product to get it yet. You're just spouting junk for the sake of it, or are actively trolling. 


This is a consumer product that was advertised a certain way. Go look at *every* description of the ending given, then play through it, you'll find not only does it not live up to those standards, it's diametrically opposed. When we were told we wouldn't be given a "pick door A/B/C" ending, we expected that, but we got a "pick door A/B/C" ending. Worse, we got a copy-paste reskin of a 12 year old game's ending, same exact choices with same exact color coding. Go read through Mac Walters description of the ending thread (no spoilers in his description) and take exactly the opposite of what he says (no joke at all) and that's what they put into the game. 

The product was not as advertised. And not in some vague manner but in actual concrete specifics that were promised. Most of us cannot return the product due to the way software is purchased. GIven that, why shouldn't we as consumer ask that the product is fixed so that it conforms, at least somewhat broadly, to what was advertised.  

[Iyerbeth]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...

Such passion...people, it's matter of principle. Regardless of how I feel about the ending,I'd lose all respect who changes a CORE aspect of their art just to please roughly 4 pages of nude modders and tali-huggers.

Don't you get it? No one cares about your "expectations". "Expectations" is the loser dweeb's word for "I'm entitled because I get beat up at school so I have to be entitled to SOMETHING!"

Not liking it? Sure. Hell, maybe I won't like it! But petitioning for the company to change it? That's what I have an issue with. It's a work of intellect. It's creative art. If you don't like some or all of it, by all means, say so. But to go on to have petitions and DEMAND changes? Jesus...

PS How about an all out anti nude modder/ Tali Hugger/ Comicbook Weeper/Trailer Screamer bashing league?

As this is posted in the no spoilers forum it's obviously difficult for users to explain the issues, but if I buy a 100 hour epic space film, and the last hour is just the first Spider Man movie tacked on instead of actually finishing the story, I am actually entitled to an ending.  It's called being a paying consumer who was promised a product that was not delivered.

But seriously, no one is complaining about anyone dying or it not ending quite right, the problem is far more basic and problematic than that kinda thing.

Edit: Ok I was mistaken about the forum it was in.

Here's just a few issues:

3 endings with basically identical cutscenes and no epilogue of any kind
explaining what happened or showing any of your decisions is frankly
terrible.  Absolutely no choices from the previous 3[sic] games making any difference at all to the endings.

Starchild appearing 10 minutes before the end and just
dictating an ending that literally doesn't make sense or fit with the
universe or the observable reality of the universe.

None of the war asset collections being involved at all!

Joker and your squad teleporting off the surface of the planet and running away from the final fight?  What the hell?  Joker forgetting his illness was interesting too.

All Mass Relays destroyed should have destroyed everything in every star system.  If not every species war fleet is stranded on a destroyed Earth and nothing mattered anyway.

Modifié par Iyerbeth, 19 mars 2012 - 11:06 .

[2484Stryker]

OP, I'd be really interested to see if you change your mind once you've actually finished.

[BadlyBrowned]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...

I'm only  4 hours into the game and loving it.

Sorry, I only got that far and stopped reading. 

[Coolfaec]

You fumble in ignorance. Incapable of understanding.

[Kingthlayer]

I e-mail my favourite musicians all the time and tell them they suck and need to go back to what made them good instead of appealing to all the bieber kiddies.

Sounds kind of familiar to BioWare now that I think of it, changing their games to appeal to a broader audience.

[Zhuinden]

In the ending, regardless of your past choices, you can select one of 3 options, which just give a different color to the explosion, and you have no idea what you're actually doing, why it works the way it does, and what happens to the galaxy. You see nothing of your choices, all you see is the world exploding. Great ending, right? Of course. I can see the consequences of my actions: everybody dies and I have no other option. Hell yeah!

[Sesshaku]

The Ponderer wrote...

Finish the game before you comment on the ending, the game I agree is masterful, but please give it some more time

this.

End the game before talking.
We all loved 95% of the game...but the ending was a knife in our backs.

[Cosmar]

Sorry OP, it's not ridiculous at all. There are well-established precedents for this in the gaming world, and every time it has happened it has only been a good thing.

I felt the same as you did at 4 hours into the game. I thought, "this is the greatest game ever. How can so many people end up hating the ending?" Well, play another 25 or so hours and go through the ending and I'm pretty sure you'll change your tune just like I and many other people did.

[Phattee Buttz]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...

I'm only  4 hours into the game and loving it. I'm also, aware, because I do not live in a cave, that the only natural ending it can have, is Shepard dying (This is not a spoiler, as I have no clue as to what the actual ending is like, but death feels like the only right end.)

I stopped reading right there. You have no concept of the vat of diarrhea you'll be dunked into about 20 hours from now.

[Sesshaku]

and for the last time, WE DO NOT COMPLAIN THAT SHEPARD DIES....we just want an ending that has sense, that has real options based on your choices during the games and that has a true closure with all the characters.

[Tyrzun]

Borrachofunk69 wrote...

I'm only  4 hours into the game and loving it. I'm also, aware, because I do not live in a cave, that the only natural ending it can have, is Shepard dying (This is not a spoiler, as I have no clue as to what the actual ending is like, but death feels like the only right end.)

For people to complain that it wasn't "as heroic as they expected" is utterly, astonishingly idiotic. While at it, boycott your favorite musicians. Tell them to only write X types of songs because you only like THEM. Hell, mail your favorite authors about writing ONLY ABOUT THINGS YOU LOVE! Let's kill ALL creative freedom and just petulantly stomp our feet and beg for our nerdy white blubberbellies to be pandered to.

Are you serious?

I am not a forum poster. I will most likely not return to chek replies on this thread, but as a fellow artist, I wanted to give the team my heartfelt support and congratulations and tell them to not change one iota about their masterpiece.

Whiners and geeklords, fat goth chicks and nude modders, burn in hell, you subnormal bunch of self-serving dweebs.

If you go to Burger King and order a burger and they serve you a Taco, you would be beyond furious.  BIOWARE promised the choices from ME 1 and ME 2 would provide specific personal endings based on your choices paragon etc...  They specifically said their wouldn't be GENERIC A, B, C endings and that's what they gave us.

I can be sure you'd be angry if they left the cheese of your burger and you'd go back in and complain about it or hold it against them next time you thought about going there.  You wouldn't say... ti's ok.

It's that simple of a concept.  It has nothing to do with HOW the generic 3 endings happened, it's the fact they ARE generic endings.  

[Aligalipe]

He doesn't have the brains to wait until he finishes the game before commenting.

[Dranume]

Who cares if you are a artist or not, That kind of language is not needed and unwanted.

Everyone take a step back, take a few breaths and lets recompose..

[ECK mk2]

My advice, finish the game before telling people how to react to the ending. Until you've played it yourself you won't understand, whatever your opinion is of the ending itself.

Oh and by the way its never ever a good idea to insult people you don't aggree with. You end up weakening your own point.

Modifié par ECK mk2, 19 mars 2012 - 11:05 .

[Plasma Prestige]

 Most people hre thought that the game was fantastic before they finished it too bud.

Before you spew insults at the people trying to save the franchise, you should finish the game, unless you want me to spoil it for you.