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Being a lady I like to play as one when give the opportunity. Also I always enjoy a strong female hero and Commander Shepard is one of my favourites.

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I am a girl. So I play as one.

And I do agree that the big tough-guy space marine thing is really old. Space marines in general are really old, but Mass Effect is good about not making it as gung-ho as, say, Halo or Gears of War. If nothing else, it's a nice little twist to have a female lead. Ellen Ripley is my favorite sci-fi hero of all time.

Voice acting: Meer's on par nowadays, so no real need to pit them against each other. Both Shepards sound pretty restrained unless you pick some renegade options. Not to do with the actors. Hale can sound pretty engaging in other roles. I think Bioware told the actors to play Shepard as "cool and aloof."

My only complaint about Femshep is that they just re-use the male animations and the exact same lines, so she's not exactly "feminine" in the slightest. Which can be a little jarring sometimes. Especially if you've got her in a dress and she decides to sit down with legs wide apart and prop a foot up on one of her knees.

No Spectre training videos on ladylike etiquette in formal situations, eh, Shepard?

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I don't think a majority of players do pick FemShep. The stats from ME2 suggest otherwise.

I'm not saying there is anything inherently good or bad about that. I played Commander Shepard because that was the "movie" I wanted to see... I thought a male character fit the role better than FemShep did. I liked his design and thought he was perfectly voice acted for the graphic design they gave him.

I wasn't as big of a fan of FemShep's acting or design (and was tremendously disappointed by her look in ME3, especially compared to her cover art, which is quite good).

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Llames wrote...

xxLDZxx wrote...

asdoorip wrote...

RLesueur wrote...

Llames wrote...

TheDarkRats wrote...

1: I'm actually a girl.
2: I prefer her voice acting.
3: There's just something awesome about a woman being some epic military hero that a guy just can't have.


Lol at nr.3 ?

I know it is your opinion, but guys can't be cool military heros?

If anything it is femshep that is unrealistic in that scenario....


Why exactly is femshep unrealistic?


I agree. Watch Xena.


Canada, Germany, South Korea, France, Spain, New Zealand, Denmark, Israel Miltary frontline troops Women.


Multi tasking for the win makin sadwiches and kicking the bad guys asses, only lady's can Image IPB


Correct me if I am wrong, but don't they lower requirements for women in most of those places? Less miles in X minutes etc? If so, that is just plain wrong.

I have nothing against females in military if they adhere to the same standards!

I know they have lower requirements in the police force strangely enough.


It depends on the kind of physical test.  When I was in the Navy, we had to do the same amount of sit-ups as men because our physique did not put us at a disadvantage there.  We had more time in the run and did less push-ups because, in those cases, our physique really did affect our performance.  On the same note, we weren't given any consideration when it came to body fat percentage eventhough our physique affected that also.  I had some very curvy friends who were not heavy in any way but, when measured, didn't fall within standards.

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Shanook wrote...

I've never understood why people praise Hale so much. She's a great voice actress, and I love her in other roles, but her FemShep has a tendency to sound incredibly forced, sometimes to the point of being downright annoying.

That said, I play FemShep because I'm a girl and I like playing girl characters. I'd say with all the special attention BioWare gives to its female fans (especially as opposed to a lot of other developers), they've got a higher percentage of female players in their fanbase. Simple as that.



She was awesome as Bastila Shan. That accent made me a fan and I had to find other games she was in.

Still I am one of the few like you who didn't really feel her in this role. Don't get me wrong she was great but it did feel forced and sometimes way to subtle or not force enough.  Oh well I still like Bastila.

Also she has done this way longer that Meer has but dude IMO was awesome and i didnt find anythig  wrong with himt other than some of the romance dialogue but I got over that quickly. 

Anyway, it is what it is.

#231
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Given the choice, I will always take a female option.

I'm a girl and Jennifer Hale is a better VA imho.

Oh, and Garrus.

#232
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An easy way to get attractive fem or male shep. I just take a base look I like, and make a few personal tweaks.

http://www.masseffect2faces.com/

#233
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I play both in ME, and I play both genders in WoW and Skyrim. It's just about character concept for me. In the case of Shepard, I don't think Mark Meer does a bad job (in fact, he does great in this installment), but Jennifer Hale really gets the bad-ass female soldier vibe down pat. Try it, you'll like it. While avatars are extensions of the player in a way, I've never thought of them embodying my age, gender, or size. You might also be surprised how many straight men play gay Shepard, too. It's what role-playing is all about - seeing life through different eyes, even if it's only a game.

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LenabotSE wrote...

I am a girl. So I play as one.

And I do agree that the big tough-guy space marine thing is really old. Space marines in general are really old, but Mass Effect is good about not making it as gung-ho as, say, Halo or Gears of War. If nothing else, it's a nice little twist to have a female lead. Ellen Ripley is my favorite sci-fi hero of all time.

Voice acting: Meer's on par nowadays, so no real need to pit them against each other. Both Shepards sound pretty restrained unless you pick some renegade options. Not to do with the actors. Hale can sound pretty engaging in other roles. I think Bioware told the actors to play Shepard as "cool and aloof."

My only complaint about Femshep is that they just re-use the male animations and the exact same lines, so she's not exactly "feminine" in the slightest. Which can be a little jarring sometimes. Especially if you've got her in a dress and she decides to sit down with legs wide apart and prop a foot up on one of her knees.

No Spectre training videos on ladylike etiquette in formal situations, eh, Shepard?


the fact that she's incredibly unlady like is actually one of the reasons I've started playing as femshep in my newer playthroughs. 

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LenabotSE wrote...

My only complaint about Femshep is that they just re-use the male animations and the exact same lines, so she's not exactly "feminine" in the slightest. Which can be a little jarring sometimes. Especially if you've got her in a dress and she decides to sit down with legs wide apart and prop a foot up on one of her knees.

No Spectre training videos on ladylike etiquette in formal situations, eh, Shepard?


I don't know I get some amusement out of the way Shep sits, she's like "oh who the hell cares".
The walking animations are a bit lazy though, especially as there was a seperate female animation in ME1.

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LyletheBloody wrote...

I don't think a majority of players do pick FemShep. The stats from ME2 suggest otherwise.

I'm not saying there is anything inherently good or bad about that. I played Commander Shepard because that was the "movie" I wanted to see... I thought a male character fit the role better than FemShep did. I liked his design and thought he was perfectly voice acted for the graphic design they gave him.

I wasn't as big of a fan of FemShep's acting or design (and was tremendously disappointed by her look in ME3, especially compared to her cover art, which is quite good).


They don't.

http://kotaku.com/58...lays-as-a-woman 

Apparantly only less than 3% play engineers.

[ edit / add ]
And much like the article author, one of my Sheps [the first one through ME3 actually] was a FemShep Engineer :).

Modifié par Reiella, 19 mars 2012 - 11:05 .


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Uhm, cause females play this game too and I relate better to a female character. And Jennifer Hale, of course.

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Jennifer Hale, and for the discussion earlier a woman is not allowed to be apart of Special Forces, they can be a normal troop but no Rangers/Seals/Delta/Green Berets etc etc

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Personally I don't mind games where I'm forced to play as a male. If the guy is hot, why not? I loved playing as Ezio, I loved playing Adam in Deus Ex:HR. Geralt, eh, kind of. He was okay if anything because he was a mutant, that was cool.

Of course, I finished those games and still felt as good as when I played my own gender, such as in Skyrim, or Fable, or Mass Effect/Dragon Age. It's always a plus when I have the option, but I won't not play games just because my gender isn't represented.

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Two words: Jennifer. Hale.

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DocStone wrote...

When I play a third person shooter sometimes I prefer to stare at a shapely females' butt for 100+ hours.

 
Since I started playing as femShep I must sa that I enjoy the light armour in ME1 quite a lot.

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TheDarkRats wrote...
1: I'm actually a girl.
2: I prefer her voice acting.
3: There's just something awesome about a woman being some epic military hero....

This.
+ 4. Liara/femShep ftw ^_^

To be more verbal, an initial gender choice was defined by my gender. Later I was at awe how non-stereotypical she was written. She doesn't giggle, doesn't try to be cute (she is a commander, after all), doesn't do all these generic girly things. Instead, she is a powerful leader who raises her voice confidently and at same time manages to have a human, soft side without putting so much emphasis on it (quite an opposite). Seriously, how many of us are willing to cry or show a vulnerable part in a front of others at workplace, for example? Or do you want to have a bosswho will squeal all the time? It's so rare, so refreshing, I can't tell how much it got me. She kicks ass hard.
I think it was partly due to writting lines and scripting moves for both genders altogether in same way. Which worked great as a result. I wish I'd see more women like that in gaming. And as a bonus, ME managed to delivered it with side characters too.  
And Jennifer Hale... Really, do I have to explain more? :lol: 

Modifié par RinuCZ, 20 mars 2012 - 12:18 .


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I used to play always with a Bro-Shep, one day I played as FemShep and noticed the great voice-acting of Jennifer Hale, so I start to use FemShep instead of the kinda boring BroShep.

Maybe the so-called-lesbian thingy with Liara make easier that choice... But also in DA2 the voice of lady Hawke was lot better for a sarcastic/comic Hawke.

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Because gay and female gamers exist.

Get over it.

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Reiella wrote...

LyletheBloody wrote...

I don't think a majority of players do pick FemShep. The stats from ME2 suggest otherwise.

I'm not saying there is anything inherently good or bad about that. I played Commander Shepard because that was the "movie" I wanted to see... I thought a male character fit the role better than FemShep did. I liked his design and thought he was perfectly voice acted for the graphic design they gave him.

I wasn't as big of a fan of FemShep's acting or design (and was tremendously disappointed by her look in ME3, especially compared to her cover art, which is quite good).


They don't.

http://kotaku.com/58...lays-as-a-woman 

Apparantly only less than 3% play engineers.

[ edit / add ]
And much like the article author, one of my Sheps [the first one through ME3 actually] was a FemShep Engineer :).


okay the fact that 62% play as soldiers is just a crime. You're missing out on half the fun of the gameplay.

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wetnasty wrote...

Because gay and female gamers exist.

Get over it.


WHAT? Nobody informed me that I exist. I didn't get the memo.

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Also skyrim is so much more hack 'n slash than games like DA and ME, and there's more of a romance aspect that draws in a lot of us. You'll find a lot of female gamers in RPG games.

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The Angry One wrote...

wetnasty wrote...

Because gay and female gamers exist.

Get over it.


WHAT? Nobody informed me that I exist. I didn't get the memo.


It was lost in a plothole, sorry :)

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The Angry One wrote...

wetnasty wrote...

Because gay and female gamers exist.

Get over it.


WHAT? Nobody informed me that I exist. I didn't get the memo.


We're just coming to the realization now that we actually DO exist. Shocking I know, you have to look at the fine print of the last newsletter that was sent out. The developers have decided that this secret has to be explained before the story gets big.

Though some people are disputing it, and are trying to get the decision reversed. So once again GIRL on video games could just stand for Guy In Real Life.

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Why just stop at Femshep? why not ask why companies give us the option to play as females?

Baldur's Gate
Baldur's Gate 2
NWN
KOTOR
Jade Empire
Dragon Age

Should I continue?

Also Female Shepard is a very strong female lead, something that is very appreciated on a largely male dominated industry.

There are very VERY few games that only have female protagonists, and I gotta sawy, No One Lives forever is really fun to play.