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[JohnnyG]

-Skorpious- wrote...

Thane had the most satisfying ME2 cameo in my opinion.

/agree

Though Mordin's was good as well in my opinion.

[MJF JD]

Hi, my name is Thane. I am going to die soon. It is incurable.

[FbangIncentinveX]

MJF JD wrote...

Hi, my name is Thane. I am going to die soon. It is incurable.

Yup, there you go.  That's not right.

[Skirata129]

I can imagine a dlc where you could go off on a string of side quests to develop a cure, but they would have to balance it somehow by making it cost war assets or something, diverting scientists from the Crucible but granting you the use of thane as a squad member. still wouldn't buy it until the ending is fixed though.

[omgBAMF]

There isn't a cure for Kepral's Syndrome, correct? I don't see how you could save Thane, even if you wanted to.

Better he went out like he did, imo.

[Arbiter156]

Yeah thane went out like a ****ing champion, but still it couldn't hurt to have the chance/option of curing him though.

Oh and I remember reading somewhere a while back that thane would be encountered on the planet invictus where hangar doctors who are being held hostage are trying to cure his illness. (possible DLC anyone?)

[MonkeyLungs]

FbangIncentinveX wrote...

As a HUGE Thane fan, I think I can tell what the problem is.

Thane was voted character of the year 2010, was he not?

Just remember, me and many others consider him the best character in ME.

Now, here's where the problem comes in.

ME is a game all about choices. It's about changing the outcomes of things, beating the odds. Doing what you wanna do. Now, I played through Thane's segment and thought it was all fantastically done.

However, the fact that he has an UNAVOIDABLE death is unfair. While him dying was really a great addition to the game, seeing him beating the odds would've been just as great.

But, that's not there.

And that pisses me off.

In an RPG I think both outcomes should be available depending upon player choice/actions. Adds to replay adds to RPG. I don't want to play a movie, I want to play an RPG. I want as little as humanly (budget/time etc) possible set in stone and more divergent pathways.

In short, I agree with you. I did really enjoy Thane's ME3 appearance though.

[ControlFreak12]

I grieved over Thane for a while, but it was worth it at the end when Shepard stabs Kai Leng and growls "That was for Thane and Miranda, you son of a ****..." and lets that bastard's lifeless body drop to the floor like a sack of meat! >

[Bekkachan]

I anticipated his death, though I didn't expect him to go out like that. Not one of those that hoped for some miracle cure, but at least something that prolonged his lifespan (though it seems he was already doing that judging by what he tells Shep at the hospital). I'm not ashamed to say I shed few tears, as he was easily one of my favorite characters. It felt so good killing Kai Leng, and with the Renegade interrupt it felt even better... then I saw his name on the memorial wall and cried some more. xD

[Lo Chiamavano Bulldozer]

-Skorpious- wrote...

Thane had the most satisfying ME2 cameo in my opinion.

Yes, he died like an hero. His death is extremely well written.

[aapblok]

Thane has a big fanbase. While I am not apart of that group, he was a cool character, nonetheless. His death triggered a lot emotion because he was one of the better ME2 characters. His finale was also really well written, like with Jack and Legion. Which is ironic, because Bioware killed off other big ME2 favourites, Mordin and Legion. I see the trope. What erks me is that Miranda had such a pathetic sidemission and really didnt bring anything to the table (was kind of brushed off), considering she was an important character in ME2. 

Modifié par aapblok, 19 mars 2012 - 11:37 .

[The Ponderer]

I'd have liked a cure option, but he was given a good send out.

[Verethele]

I agree with the OP--I just wish there was more crew acknowledgement of his death ESPECIALLY if you had romanced him. I consider this a fairly minor complaint.

[ArtificialIdiot]

Thane's death was pretty awesome. The scene on his death bed, in my opinion, was even better. The only downside was that Kai Leng was the one to do it.

[tonyng9]

aapblok wrote...

Thane has a big fanbase. While I am not apart of that group, he was a cool character, nonetheless. His death triggered a lot emotion because he was one of the better ME2 characters. His finale was also really well written, like with Jack and Legion. Which is ironic, because Bioware killed off other big ME2 favourites, Mordin and Legion. I see the trope. What erks me is that Miranda had such a pathetic sidemission and really didnt bring anything to the table (was kind of brushed off), considering she was an important character in ME2. 

All of Miranda's stuff seems rushed. Her romance scene was simply fade to black. For some reason she forgets where The Illusive Man's base is despite being in his office at the beginning of Mass Effect 2 (the same one with the giant sun outside). I was expecting her to have a major role in ME3 too because she was one of the more important characters in ME2 and they made her very hard to kill off, meaning she's very likely to be in ME3 for most players.

Thane has to die though. That was known since Mass Effect 2. It was done very well in Mass Effect 3. The miracle cure would just cheapen the story.

Modifié par tonyng9, 19 mars 2012 - 11:43 .

[Wesley Wyndam Price]

Thane and Mordin's death was the type of great and bittersweet storytelling I was expecting for the ending. Everything was gold until the last ten minutes.

I guess it's true that nothing gold can stay Ponyboy.

Also the only thing that really irked me about the Thane/Anime Reject fight is the fact that Shepard and his squadmates pretty much stand there with the Ambassador doing nothing while they are fighting it out.   Shepard pretty much lets Thane get stabbed and Kai Leng run off before doing anything.

Modifié par Wesley Wyndam Price, 19 mars 2012 - 11:49 .

[Rencor2k]

one thing that bothers me is that there is no way saving him. Shepard is known all over the galaxy and im sure if he wanted to he could pull out a few favors to save him...

[DiabolicallyRandom]

I thought Thane was handled masterfully in Mass Effect 3 - Part of me wished that he had been a companion up until that point - but upon reflection, I think it was done just right - they exemplified how, sometimes in life, even the strongest of allies can eventually succumb to illness, etc - But that the best of them will give their all until the very end.

The man says a prayer for *shepard* while HE is dying... As much displeasure as I have with the endings, I can find nothing wrong with anything they did with Thane in ME3. Touching, artful, real.

Some people like the idea that there could be a miracle cure - I think this is a great example of how, as some beleive, even technology would seem to preclude a cure for all disease.

Modifié par DiabolicallyRandom, 19 mars 2012 - 11:47 .

[SpectreVerner]

I think it's that people didn't want him to die.

[CGramn]

This would probably be better addressed in the Protest Romanced Thane's treatment in ME3 thread.
Anyway, my wife romanced Thane in ME2, and I've been closely following her dismay at what happened and what is going on with the Thanemancers, and I guess I'll chip in with what seems to be the main problems here:

1) A romanced Thane is 95% the same as a friend or bromance Thane. There is one or two extra dialogue options for him, the rest is exactly the same as if he was not romanced.

2) His death may look cool and have weight in the circumstances, but his death makes no impact on anyone after the fact. When Mordin, Legion, or anyone else dies, everyone has something to say about it. When Thane dies, everyone is talking about how nice it is to have Kaiden/Ashley back on board. Thane is never mentioned or shown again for the rest of the game except when you kill Kai-Leng, which prompts the same response whether romanced or not.

3) Thane is the only character not to get a Codex entry at all.

4) Thane's character when romanced in ME2 is a very different character from a non-romanced Thane. He goes from being prepared for death without regrets, to genuine fear of dying because of the life he has found with Femshep and the life he wants to have with her. In ME3, no matter what you did, Thane is once again reserved to dying and your decisions have made no impact on his character.

EDIT: 5) Your continued romance with Thane does also not trigger the Paramour achievement, which is in itself a huge disservice to the Thanemancers.

There are other reasons as well, but like the Retake Mass Effect movement, I think Thane's "Better Romance" movement along with Jacob's same effort is often being thrown aside as "They just want a happy ending" when that's really not what the core issue is at all. It's again the same neglect and poor writing the ending suffers from, and one of the writers have admitted to the fact that romanced Thane got lost somewhere in the process.

Modifié par CGramn, 19 mars 2012 - 11:52 .

[Zuka999]

The major character deaths were all well done. Thane's story arc reached its obvious conclusion.

UNLIKE some other conclusions, which were not so logical.

[calis_riakel]

I loved how Thane's story played out in 3.

[pika9519]

I wasn't happy to see him go, but damn was it one of the most moving and badass parts of the game.

[Erszebeth]

I'm okay with Thane's death and my main romanced him. I'm a bit miffed that he got offed by that Kai Leng ******, though.

[the_red_one1223]

Tleining wrote...

wouldn't it make more sense to ask this in a thread were people were complaining about it?

The only complaints i've heard are from FemShep-Players who had Thane as LI. And apparently there isn't a lot of special dialogue referencing that. In Addition, with Thane dead, Jacob no longer interested in Shepard, that leaves only Garrus as Hetero-LI.
uh, i think those are all the complaints i've heard so far.

Not to mention Kaiden, but some of us went out of our way to make sure that Ash survives that. And unfortunately because some of us did that, we have to redo either the entire series or ME2 just to make sure that Kaiden's alive or at least have Garrus as a hetero LI. I don't mind that there were other choices, but unfortnately for BW, some of us didn't really swing that way for our characters. And frankly the ME2 romances for any FemShep just seems pointless if they're hoping for them to crossover in ME3, IMHO. The only one that doesn't turn out to be a douche like Jacob or dead like Thane is Garrus.