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[Legbiter]

Dude had the best cameo in ME 3. Beat up Kai Leng and saved the councillor, what a way to go.

[Brawne]

Why upset. I was proud of him, it was a good death. Same with Mordin, altough with him it was little more sad.

[the_red_one1223]

CGramn wrote...

This would probably be better addressed in the Protest Romanced Thane's treatment in ME3 thread.
Anyway, my wife romanced Thane in ME2, and I've been closely following her dismay at what happened and what is going on with the Thanemancers, and I guess I'll chip in with what seems to be the main problems here:

1) A romanced Thane is 95% the same as a friend or bromance Thane. There is one or two extra dialogue options for him, the rest is exactly the same as if he was not romanced.

2) His death may look cool and have weight in the circumstances, but his death makes no impact on anyone after the fact. When Mordin, Legion, or anyone else dies, everyone has something to say about it. When Thane dies, everyone is talking about how nice it is to have Kaiden/Ashley back on board. Thane is never mentioned or shown again for the rest of the game except when you kill Kai-Leng, which prompts the same response whether romanced or not.

3) Thane is the only character not to get a Codex entry at all.

4) Thane's character when romanced in ME2 is a very different character from a non-romanced Thane. He goes from being prepared for death without regrets, to genuine fear of dying because of the life he has found with Femshep and the life he wants to have with her. In ME3, no matter what you did, Thane is once again reserved to dying and your decisions have made no impact on his character.

EDIT: 5) Your continued romance with Thane does also not trigger the Paramour achievement, which is in itself a huge disservice to the Thanemancers.

There are other reasons as well, but like the Retake Mass Effect movement, I think Thane's "Better Romance" movement along with Jacob's same effort is often being thrown aside as "They just want a happy ending" when that's really not what the core issue is at all. It's again the same neglect and poor writing the ending suffers from, and one of the writers have admitted to the fact that romanced Thane got lost somewhere in the process.

THIS.

[Sashimi_taco]

Sparatus wrote...

They are upset because Bioware actually mislead them about a cure (support the Cure Thane movement on their facebook page for instance) and because there is really no difference in a romanced and unromanced Thane. And to top it off he doesn't count as a romance in 3.

Really, unless you romanced Garrus in Mass Effect 2 you are out of luck. Since he is the only femshep romance that carries over.

Wait i have a thane playthrough and he just like, breaks up with my renegade femshep? What happens?

[thebobafettest]

omgBAMF wrote...

There isn't a cure for Kepral's Syndrome, correct? I don't see how you could save Thane, even if you wanted to.

Better he went out like he did, imo.

I think someone (Either Dr. Chakwas, or maybe the Shadow Broker Dossier) says that it's not curable, though lung transplants can be effective.  It also was said that he refused a transplant.

[Luigitornado]

I liked his role in ME3. Didn't know there were complainers. Not surprised.

[Legbiter]

FbangIncentinveX wrote...

However, the fact that he has an UNAVOIDABLE death is unfair.

Uh, that's what makes him so great. Man's got pathos coming out of his ears.

[jhubbard9516]

Im commander Shepard, and thane is the best character in the series.

[Remus A]

Thane's death made killing Kai Leng all the sweeter. >

[katamuro]

I agree with OP, his death was quite heroic and touching. I think it was noble.

[sonicphoto]

 I think they did great with Thane, I actually thought he would die in the second game, the fact he managed to live till the 3rd game amazed me with all the things on his condition and he died with style. The fact that it was Kai Leng is what may cause some hate because Kai Leng well... I don't know it isn't an appealing character.

[Megachaz]

I wanted Thane to die. He was the best character in ME2. In fact, I think my favorite cutscene of the entire series is him assassinating Nassana. But he was dying, and just letting him waste away would have been lost potential.

[KBomb]

As a Shepard that was Thane's comrade and trusted friend, it was a perfect character death. I was one of the ones not wanting to see him die and was hoping for a miracle cure. However, I thought his death was well done.

As Thane's LI, it was the most ****** poor relationship ending ever. It's the exact same death scene. I was hardly expecting Shepard to lay prostrate at his death bed, but ffs, give some inspiring words of remembrance. Something, anything. There was nothing but the semi-conscience moniker “Siha” that felt tacked on as an after thought. Shepard treated him coldly before going after Leng and she told Thane's son she was there only because Thane “helped” her kill a lot of bad guys, or some such unforgettable line that held no affection at all. Poor and lazy handling of him, imo.

[Fjordgnu]

I think what a lot of people don't like about it is they feel Kepral's syndrome should be treatable with the medical science of Mass Effect. I'm willing to suspend my disbelief, and assume there's more to his death than a replacement lung would fix.

I mean, the scene where Kolyat and Shepard pray ... for Shepard, is still one of my favorite scenes from ME3.

[ravene]

i think the main problem is not the way thayne died but out of all the me2 crew its 2 out of 3 of femsheps LI that 1 is scripted death and the other cheets on shep then dumps her while garrus does carry over if you romanced him in 2 thats 1 out of 3 for femshep while mshep gets all his carried over. and mshep can save all 3 of his.

[AnthonyF27]

-Skorpious- wrote...

Thane had the most satisfying ME2 cameo in my opinion.

[Action Bawstard]

I wasn't mad about Thane death. It was going to happen, I just hate the little mention of him afterwards. No mourning, mentions, or reflections on him throughout the game. I would think, especially for someone who romanced him, there would have been something. The empty Life support room was a good opportunity to make a few flashback scenes or what not for the romanced Femshep.

[Slymandro]

Everything about his parts were done really well, sad to see him go but that's what made it so awesome.

[RShara]

the_red_one1223 wrote...

CGramn wrote...

This would probably be better addressed in the Protest Romanced Thane's treatment in ME3 thread.
Anyway, my wife romanced Thane in ME2, and I've been closely following her dismay at what happened and what is going on with the Thanemancers, and I guess I'll chip in with what seems to be the main problems here:

1) A romanced Thane is 95% the same as a friend or bromance Thane. There is one or two extra dialogue options for him, the rest is exactly the same as if he was not romanced.

2) His death may look cool and have weight in the circumstances, but his death makes no impact on anyone after the fact. When Mordin, Legion, or anyone else dies, everyone has something to say about it. When Thane dies, everyone is talking about how nice it is to have Kaiden/Ashley back on board. Thane is never mentioned or shown again for the rest of the game except when you kill Kai-Leng, which prompts the same response whether romanced or not.

3) Thane is the only character not to get a Codex entry at all.

4) Thane's character when romanced in ME2 is a very different character from a non-romanced Thane. He goes from being prepared for death without regrets, to genuine fear of dying because of the life he has found with Femshep and the life he wants to have with her. In ME3, no matter what you did, Thane is once again reserved to dying and your decisions have made no impact on his character.

EDIT: 5) Your continued romance with Thane does also not trigger the Paramour achievement, which is in itself a huge disservice to the Thanemancers.

There are other reasons as well, but like the Retake Mass Effect movement, I think Thane's "Better Romance" movement along with Jacob's same effort is often being thrown aside as "They just want a happy ending" when that's really not what the core issue is at all. It's again the same neglect and poor writing the ending suffers from, and one of the writers have admitted to the fact that romanced Thane got lost somewhere in the process.

THIS.

[usmack5]

His cameo certainly had more closure than the ending lol. I kind of wish you could speak to his son more, though.

[Artking3]

I thought the death of Thane was very well done. I think most other people do too.

[Missy_MI]

Action Bawstard wrote...
I wasn't mad about Thane death. It was going to happen, I just hate the little mention of him afterwards. No mourning, mentions, or reflections on him throughout the game. I would think, especially for someone who romanced him, there would have been something.

This.  The Normandy crew commented about pretty much every other character from ME2 after they appeared in the story, but not one mention of Thane after his death.  It was a rather jarring omission (for me anyway).

[Calibrations Expert]

If you already had Thane dead, you'll realize he didn't really die for much of a purpose.

Thane died in my ME2 game. So Kai Leng is aiming at the councilor, and he fires point blank in the chest.  Then, there is a flash in front of the councilor, and the Salarian Khirahee ("HOLD THE LINE!") uncloaks in front of her and fall to the ground with a big hole in his chest.

Shepard and Khirahee then chase down Kai Leng, who hops on a shuttle and flies off. Khirahee then falls to the ground and bleeds to death.

So when Thane attacked, Khirahee was in that room invisble the whole time, ready to take a bullet for the councilor. I'm sure if we knew we would all have chosen Khirahee to die over Thane.

So it's seems to me Thane was the right one to let die, though I'm a bit upset I missed out on the emotional awesomeness that would have happened. I didn't have much reason to hate Leng except that he was an a-hole.

Modifié par Calibrations Expert, 20 mars 2012 - 12:36 .

[TrueHD]

I think it was very well done, considering the massive shout-out he received at the end of the Kai Leng fight.