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My favorite Male character in the series needs to be saved in ME3! They should bring out a 'Save Thane' DLC and a 'better romance' DLC (for the Thanemancers).

*signed*

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Raikoh110 wrote...

My favorite Male character in the series needs to be saved in ME3! They should bring out a 'Save Thane' DLC and a 'better romance' DLC (for the Thanemancers).

*signed*


here it is Raikoh, I made the changes to the banner liked you asked.

just copy and paste this link and place a [ before "img" so it activates: 
IMG]http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u421/Squeegee83DA/savethane.gif[/IMG]

it should look like this after you're done.
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Modifié par Squeegee83, 24 mars 2012 - 03:16 .


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Squeegee83 wrote...

Raikoh110 wrote...

My favorite Male character in the series needs to be saved in ME3! They should bring out a 'Save Thane' DLC and a 'better romance' DLC (for the Thanemancers).

*signed*


here it is Raikoh, I made the changes to the banner liked you asked.

just copy and paste this link and place a [ before "img" so it activates: 
IMG]http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u421/Squeegee83DA/savethane.gif[/IMG]

it should look like this after you're done.
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Oh awesome! I didn't think you would make one. Thanks!

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Raikoh110 wrote...

Squeegee83 wrote...

Raikoh110 wrote...

My favorite Male character in the series needs to be saved in ME3! They should bring out a 'Save Thane' DLC and a 'better romance' DLC (for the Thanemancers).

*signed*


here it is Raikoh, I made the changes to the banner liked you asked.

just copy and paste this link and place a [ before "img" so it activates: 
IMG]http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u421/Squeegee83DA/savethane.gif[/IMG]

it should look like this after you're done.
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Oh awesome! I didn't think you would make one. Thanks!


no problemo :) thanks for the support!

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Thane's appearance in ME3 - cannot categorise it as a romance - is a real let-down for all Thanemancers. Also, just a small nitpick - what is an exceptional, experienced assassin like Thane doing running while firing a gun while practically being unable to run because of his illness, as well as having dizzy moments? If Thane had been using his brain, his instincts, and/or his training, he would have kept out of range of Kai Leng's toothpick and picked him off easily. Come on, his brain damage couldn't have been THAT bad.

Bioware has been completely negligent about Thane. Forgetting him and his fans? Bad move. Cheap move, too. Enough that you had to build an incredibly fascinating world and then demolish it, but to have fans invest and care for characters and then treat them so ho-hum ... gotta say, I'm gonna be looking twice, three and four times before I buy another Bioware game again.

I'm playing the multiplayer part now, mostly because there are drell there that look exactly like Thane and I can pretend in my head he's still around and fighting and looking awesome (yes, I am pathetic, but everyone enjoys themselves in their own way) and it would certainly change my current negative viewpoint on BW if they did release some DLC that gave us the choice to save Thane.

They didn't even cut off the life-support area! His cup was still there.... like a memorial... sheesh, I'm still mildly traumatised by the whole thing. Bioware are acting like fatherless sons to Thanemancers.

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Nonsense4 wrote...

Thane's appearance in ME3 - cannot categorise it as a romance - is a real let-down for all Thanemancers. Also, just a small nitpick - what is an exceptional, experienced assassin like Thane doing running while firing a gun while practically being unable to run because of his illness, as well as having dizzy moments? If Thane had been using his brain, his instincts, and/or his training, he would have kept out of range of Kai Leng's toothpick and picked him off easily. Come on, his brain damage couldn't have been THAT bad.

Bioware has been completely negligent about Thane. Forgetting him and his fans? Bad move. Cheap move, too. Enough that you had to build an incredibly fascinating world and then demolish it, but to have fans invest and care for characters and then treat them so ho-hum ... gotta say, I'm gonna be looking twice, three and four times before I buy another Bioware game again.

I'm playing the multiplayer part now, mostly because there are drell there that look exactly like Thane and I can pretend in my head he's still around and fighting and looking awesome (yes, I am pathetic, but everyone enjoys themselves in their own way) and it would certainly change my current negative viewpoint on BW if they did release some DLC that gave us the choice to save Thane.

They didn't even cut off the life-support area! His cup was still there.... like a memorial... sheesh, I'm still mildly traumatised by the whole thing. Bioware are acting like fatherless sons to Thanemancers.


Agree with every word on here!

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Yep, gonna go with that too!

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RShara wrote...

Nonsense4 wrote...

Thane's appearance in ME3 - cannot categorise it as a romance - is a real let-down for all Thanemancers. Also, just a small nitpick - what is an exceptional, experienced assassin like Thane doing running while firing a gun while practically being unable to run because of his illness, as well as having dizzy moments? If Thane had been using his brain, his instincts, and/or his training, he would have kept out of range of Kai Leng's toothpick and picked him off easily. Come on, his brain damage couldn't have been THAT bad.

Bioware has been completely negligent about Thane. Forgetting him and his fans? Bad move. Cheap move, too. Enough that you had to build an incredibly fascinating world and then demolish it, but to have fans invest and care for characters and then treat them so ho-hum ... gotta say, I'm gonna be looking twice, three and four times before I buy another Bioware game again.

I'm playing the multiplayer part now, mostly because there are drell there that look exactly like Thane and I can pretend in my head he's still around and fighting and looking awesome (yes, I am pathetic, but everyone enjoys themselves in their own way) and it would certainly change my current negative viewpoint on BW if they did release some DLC that gave us the choice to save Thane.

They didn't even cut off the life-support area! His cup was still there.... like a memorial... sheesh, I'm still mildly traumatised by the whole thing. Bioware are acting like fatherless sons to Thanemancers.


Agree with every word on here!


YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH!

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Nonsense4 wrote...

Thane's appearance in ME3 - cannot categorise it as a romance - is a real let-down for all Thanemancers. Also, just a small nitpick - what is an exceptional, experienced assassin like Thane doing running while firing a gun while practically being unable to run because of his illness, as well as having dizzy moments? If Thane had been using his brain, his instincts, and/or his training, he would have kept out of range of Kai Leng's toothpick and picked him off easily. Come on, his brain damage couldn't have been THAT bad.

Bioware has been completely negligent about Thane. Forgetting him and his fans? Bad move. Cheap move, too. Enough that you had to build an incredibly fascinating world and then demolish it, but to have fans invest and care for characters and then treat them so ho-hum ... gotta say, I'm gonna be looking twice, three and four times before I buy another Bioware game again.

I'm playing the multiplayer part now, mostly because there are drell there that look exactly like Thane and I can pretend in my head he's still around and fighting and looking awesome (yes, I am pathetic, but everyone enjoys themselves in their own way) and it would certainly change my current negative viewpoint on BW if they did release some DLC that gave us the choice to save Thane.

They didn't even cut off the life-support area! His cup was still there.... like a memorial... sheesh, I'm still mildly traumatised by the whole thing. Bioware are acting like fatherless sons to Thanemancers.


So well said.  I can't believe just how poorly he was handled and he was character of the year in 2010!  I would think you would capitalize on that, not throw it away!

Also for anyone that wants a Thane banner that didn't romance him, I'll leave this here!
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Modifié par Cosmochyck, 24 mars 2012 - 12:57 .


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Formal Petition Rough Draft
Here is the Rough Draft for the petition, it addresses Thane and Jacob. Please feel free to add suggestions or make comments, I want it to reflect as much of the fanbase as it can.
Mass Effect: Save our characters, Save our Game petition.
In response to the recent comments by Bioware’s Casey Hudson and Ray Muzyka as well as other Bioware staff members, we the fans of the Mass Effect trilogy, would like to submit a formal petition to voice our concerns in regards to the continuing story of our beloved characters in hopes that the fans and artists can mutually cooperate in continuing to build a better ME experience.
First and foremost we would like to thank all of the artists and staff members that have worked for years in building this wonderful experience. Though many of us have voiced our dissatisfaction with various features and choices in the game, we ask that you please do not misunderstand, not one of us doubts the intense amount of labor and love it took to get the game to where it is today. All that hard work can be reflected not only in the end product itself, but also in its loyal and passionate fan base.
We’ve fallen in love with its universe, mythologies, cultures, and ultimately with its characters. Many of us have become so emotionally invested in this world that we have come to genuinely care for these characters, especially our squad mates. This is an amazing achievement on behalf of the writers, concept artists, and animators. However, it is because of this that it came to us as such a shock and disappointment the way some character’s stories were treated in ME3. Bioware and its artists have all the right to protect their artistic integrity, however some decisions such as the ones of not allowing Shepard to continue his or her relationship with a previous ME2 character go against what was promised to the players. It felt like a message telling the fans,” you should have picked this instead of this.”
We are of course speaking of Thane Krios and Jacob Taylor. Not only does Shepard have no choice in the matter of their relationship, their change in attitude go against what the characters have developed alongside her through the events of ME2. It may not seem important to a lot of people since they wouldn’t have had the same experience, but in an otherwise excellent game these small but important details become incredibly jarring and jeopardize the experience as a whole.
On the case of Thane Krios, please let us have a choice to save him.
Trust us it was incredibly emotional when he died, but not so much because he died protecting the council, but rather how his death was treated as a whole. From the moment you meet Thane whatever will to live he had developed because of Shepard, in six months it is all but gone. Despite clear precursors to possible cures, the writers opted to ignore these entirely and decided to completely take any choice away from the player. After two years of hoping, players had to resign to his inevitable fate. As if that wasn’t enough during the entire ordeal Shepard is surprisingly indifferent about their relationship or with his death. When Thane finally dies in the one place he wished not to die, a hospital bed, a prayer is said and our hope of showing him a desert dies with him. Only a few words are exchanged, differing slightly whether he was a love interest or not. And then the last straw happens when Shepard seeks the comfort of her friends, not one mentions Thane or his sacrifice. The only one to mention him would be his killer later on in the game. Thane doesn’t even get a codex entry. This can be considered pretty dismal treatment for 2010’s most popular character, ME2 poster boy, and a favorite of the female fan base. If he were brought back as a squad mate, even male players would welcome him, he is one of the most compelling and well-made characters in modern games.
As for Jacob Taylor, his decision to cheat on Shepard during their six month time apart is out of character to say the least. For someone that developed a trauma by his father leaving him, he essentially abandoned Shepard just as well. This seemed very out of the blue and a huge surprise to his female fans.
It is also vexing how the two characters that were given this treatment were for the female players, meanwhile there are six love interests available to male players. We’re all about variety, and we wouldn’t take one word, sentence, or choice away from these characters because we know these truly help make the game a much better experience. However we hope that Bioware doesn’t forget about its female fan base, which is large and just as passionate, and let us save these characters, because they mean a lot to us. We understand it would be difficult, but then again, “most things worth keeping are.”

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Thank you so much Nube for butting it together. It's very well written and I will definitely sign it.

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I will sign this petition too. You've put it beautifully, much better than I could.

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Just in case I actually needed to verbalise this...

Yes, I will sign this.

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The OP just made me realise that Thane dies without even getting to see a desert. *tear* Now I'm doubley depressed.

I'll sign this. Thane and some of the other LIs deserve better.

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I'm definitely signing this too!

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Signed....sealed, delivered, I'm yours!

that TOTALLY got away from me.....yeah.

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Wow. This is just totally negated all the good things I've said about the community being justified in the displeasure with the ending.

To the OP, the reason protesting the ending has valid arguments is because of all the horrible contradictions it imposes against the lore. The point the community is taking a stand on is that we are NOT protesting because we didn't get "our way."

Thanes moment was BY FAR one of the most gripping and emotional scenes throughout the series. I TEARED UP FFS! It was extremely well written and the final "goodbye" was absolutely moving. It had all the Drell lore, from their prayer rituals to keplar syndroms effects established through all his parts.

THERE IS NO JUSTIFIABLE REASON TO PROTEST THIS SCENE.

Threads like this will continue to spark animosity towards our plight for a different ending. Lock up this thread and STFU. You are, in fact, being a whiny **** who wants his way. And your making the rest if us look bad.

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Consider that signed

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Bloodhound66 wrote...

Wow. This is just totally negated all the good things I've said about the community being justified in the displeasure with the ending.

To the OP, the reason protesting the ending has valid arguments is because of all the horrible contradictions it imposes against the lore. The point the community is taking a stand on is that we are NOT protesting because we didn't get "our way."

Thanes moment was BY FAR one of the most gripping and emotional scenes throughout the series. I TEARED UP FFS! It was extremely well written and the final "goodbye" was absolutely moving. It had all the Drell lore, from their prayer rituals to keplar syndroms effects established through all his parts.

THERE IS NO JUSTIFIABLE REASON TO PROTEST THIS SCENE.

Threads like this will continue to spark animosity towards our plight for a different ending. Lock up this thread and STFU. You are, in fact, being a whiny **** who wants his way. And your making the rest if us look bad.


There is every justifiable reason to protest Thane's death scene. And if you had read any of the previous posts, you would know that.

You are being a whiny **** who has no respect for peoples' reasonable desire for options.

STFU and GTFO this thread.

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coldwetn0se wrote...

Signed....sealed, delivered, I'm yours!

that TOTALLY got away from me.....yeah.


Yes, thanks Coldi, now that song is in my head.

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LOL, wow, go Visii!

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mnomaha wrote...

:blink:

LOL, wow, go Visii!


Yeah that and I like how some are saying, "I have a right to protest, to free speech" but it seems to ONLY apply when it's their goals or their voices they want heard.  Sorry, I get the same rights and if you don't like what I have to say, keep it zipped, move along, if you can't keep it zipped then keep it civil, and I, in return, will do the same when I disagree with you.

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Yes, I know. Tell me, how exactly is this thread going to impact what bw does with the ending? I don't even know if the mods/devs/writers are even looking at the characters threads. Meh, whatever. God forbid that I, as a female gamer, have a right to desire something.

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Posters like Bloodhounds puts me in mind of an episode of South Park, where Kyle points out to his Dad that his (Dad's) belief in something (and expressed) is his right, but that everyone who thinks differently or has opinions on other indirectly related things, don't have these same rights. Basically the definition of Fascism. Kyles Dad says,
"It's not Fascism, because we don't call in Fascism." *giggle*

A bit overboard perhaps about the whole fascism stuff, soooo...... what Visii and utaker say.

*Edit* because I just can't let it go.

1) Payed full price for CE just like you probably did.

2) Played the hell out of the first two games, preparing for the end of the trilogy.

3) As it has already been pointed out, have the right to not like something about the game, just as you.

4) And finally, I do NOT belittle your belief in thinking the endings are bad, when I myself am not that upset about the endings.  Always big on choice in an RPG, so more choices for endings are a good thing, but.....

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 25 mars 2012 - 02:33 .


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What AREN'T you guys happy about in ME3? I think Thane's death was just fine and was written nicely.