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[sunnie7699]

Dreaming Dead wrote...

What AREN'T you guys happy about in ME3? I think Thane's death was just fine and was written nicely.

What AREN'T we happy about in ME3?

*facepalm*

As I've said too many times before:

READ the thread. THEN post.

[Visii]

Dreaming Dead wrote...

What AREN'T you guys happy about in ME3? I think Thane's death was just fine and was written nicely.

Here's what we're not happy about:

1)  There was a shameful lack of romantic dialogue.
2) Barely any difference between a friendShep's dialogue and a romanceShep's.
3) Only one, Keprals/VS oriented dialogue with Thane before he died.
4) No shared mission with Thane. The side mission that really should have been his went to... Kasumi??
5) The fight with Kai-Leng was stupid (why was Shep+others just standing there? Why close the distance, Thane, when he had a sword?) Also, a bit nonsensical and pointless, he dies trying to save the Salarian councilor, an act that can be replaced by several other characters, and that has no strong connection to Thane.
6) The death scene was impersonal, the same for both friendShep and a romanceShep's.
7) After he died, no one save Kai-Leng mentioned Thane's name again. No chance for Shepard to mourn or talk about him with others, romanced or not.

Modifié par Visii, 25 mars 2012 - 03:39 .

[mnomaha]

...I think that's one of the best "in a nutshell" we've had yet.

[wilhelm Screamer]

I feel he got a fitting farewell, he humiliated the best and brightest of one of the most fearsome terrorist groups out there.

[sunnie7699]

Bloodhound66 wrote...

Wow. This is just totally negated all the good things I've said about the community being justified in the displeasure with the ending.

To the OP, the reason protesting the ending has valid arguments is because of all the horrible contradictions it imposes against the lore. The point the community is taking a stand on is that we are NOT protesting because we didn't get "our way."

Thanes moment was BY FAR one of the most gripping and emotional scenes throughout the series. I TEARED UP FFS! It was extremely well written and the final "goodbye" was absolutely moving. It had all the Drell lore, from their prayer rituals to keplar syndroms effects established through all his parts.

THERE IS NO JUSTIFIABLE REASON TO PROTEST THIS SCENE.

Threads like this will continue to spark animosity towards our plight for a different ending. Lock up this thread and STFU. You are, in fact, being a whiny **** who wants his way. And your making the rest if us look bad.

First of all, how does this 'negated all the good things you've said about the community being justified in the displeasure with the ending'? This has NOTHING to do with the ending of ME3. This has to do with the treatment of Thane in general, the lack of attention given to him as a character (and the CONTRADICTIONS to how his character developed over ME2 if your Shep ROMANCED him).

Did your shepard romance him? I'm assuming no.

Did you read the thread properly? I'm assuming no.

Why don't you go troll the people who are dissatisfied with the way the Liara romance was handled, because they didn't get their 'liitle blu babiez' in the end? THEY are the ones drawing attention away from properly thought out protests like this one, and the protests against the ME3 endings. I'm not trollin' them on their thread because they are *gasp* entitled to their own opinion! And Bioware already admitted that they 'dropped the ball' with Thane's romance, so you should STFU.

[sunnie7699]

mnomaha wrote...

...I think that's one of the best "in a nutshell" we've had yet.

Haha I agree, maybe I should take a lesson from Visii, rather than screaming at people who don't understand

[Visii]

Made it clearer:


1) There was a shameful lack of romantic dialogue.
2) Barely any difference between a friendShep's dialogue and a romanceShep's.
3) Only one, Keprals/VS oriented dialogue with Thane before he died.
4) No shared mission with Thane. The side mission that really should have been his went to... Kasumi??
5) The fight with Kai-Leng was stupid (why was Shep+others just standing there? Why close the distance, Thane, when Leng had a sword?) Also, a bit nonsensical and pointless; Thane dies trying to save the Salarian councilor, an act that can be replaced by several other characters, and that has no real connection or significance to Thane.
6) The death scene was impersonal, the same for both friendShep and a romanceShep's.
7) After he died, no one save Kai-Leng mentioned Thane's name again. No chance for Shepard to mourn or talk about him with others, romanced or not.

Maybe just post that whenever trolls haul themselves out from beneath those bridges.

Modifié par Visii, 25 mars 2012 - 04:13 .

[mnomaha]

I actually saved it to a word file on my desktop.

[Taavo]

That about sums up the way I feel, Visii. I hate the way they make shepard act like she doesn't even care after Thane dies and nobody even mentions him afterwards.

[Bloodhound66]

I'm not trying to discredit anyones opinion. But there's a phenomonaly huge difference between petitioning for a farewell kiss and some more tears, (because he just so happened to be your LI), and petitioning against an ending that makes absolutely no sense according to previous lore in the titles.

Also, my shep didn't cry any tears for Miranda when she died, she was my LI in ME2. i broke it off with her for ashley (my original LI) early in the game and couldnt even romance ashley, so I ended up not getting any closure on my LI's. Does this mean I should start ANOTHER petition? I'm sure if I tried hard enough I could find reasons some would see as "justified."

[Visii]

Oh wow, how could I have forgot?

1) There was no cure, despite CDN mention of Medigel for the lungs, the hanar cure, and Thane's transplant candidacy, mentioned in ME2 and Lair of the Shadow Broker.
2)There was a shameful lack of romantic dialogue.
3) Barely any difference between a friendShep's dialogue and a romanceShep's.
4) Only one, Keprals/VS oriented dialogue with Thane before he died.
5) No shared mission with Thane. The side mission that really should have been his went to... Kasumi??
6) The fight with Kai-Leng was stupid (why was Shep+others just standing there? Why close the distance, Thane, when Leng had a sword?) Also, a bit nonsensical and pointless; Thane dies trying to save the Salarian councilor, an act that can be replaced by several other characters, and that has no real connection or significance to Thane.
7) The death scene was impersonal, the same for both friendShep and a romanceShep's.
8) After he died, no one save Kai-Leng mentioned Thane's name again. No chance for Shepard to mourn or talk about him with others, romanced or not.

@Bloodhound,

We paid for the game and we're unsatisfied with what we got. The romances, which I would like to point out is an aspect of the Mass Effect series which cannot be had in almost any other game outside of Bioware's is a legitimate criticism. Bioware has been lauded for their storytelling and characterization. The ending of ME3
was so bad it retroactively whitewashed the game's other flaws, but that doesn't mean that failings such as those in the romance department aren't valid.

The Ending crowd has thousands of supporters; there is little most of us can say that hasn't been said over a thousand times by now. The ME2 LI situation on the other hand needs more people talking.

Modifié par Visii, 25 mars 2012 - 04:32 .

[sunnie7699]

mnomaha wrote...

I actually saved it to a word file on my desktop.

Haha I'm actually going to do that too, good idea!

[mnomaha]

Good idea sunnie!

[Visii]

Vi ‏ @Asenza
@masseffect I think there's a glitch with my game; there was no way to cure Thane. And after he died, no one remembered he had ever lived.

Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏
@asenza What platform are you playing on?



...

How should I respond? ;

[sunnie7699]

Visii wrote...

Vi ‏ @Asenza
@masseffect I think there's a glitch with my game; there was no way to cure Thane. And after he died, no one remembered he had ever lived.

Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏
@asenza What platform are you playing on?



...

How should I respond? ;

Maybe you should respond with: *facepalm*

Are they for real? They can't possibly know that there wasn't a cure for Thane within the game right? 

[Bloodhound66]

The reason the ending has so much more interest in it than the LI's is because the LI's are minor, sub-plot romances, which are different for everybody. the ending was supposed to be the climax of the series and we got... Well we all know what we got.

Sorry if i sound like a troll, i dont want to invalidate anyones opinion. I just think if we're going to ACTUALLY make MULTIPLE protests about the game to get everything just perfect than we are selfish and greedy and are simply demanding too much out of a game company.

My opinion anyways.

[Taavo]

Visii wrote...

Vi ‏ @Asenza
@masseffect I think there's a glitch with my game; there was no way to cure Thane. And after he died, no one remembered he had ever lived.

Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏
@asenza What platform are you playing on?



...

How should I respond? ;

 
That has to be a joke...

[Emeraldfern]

To be honest, the "phenomonaly huge difference" between petioning for a character and endings is your opinion. 
For me Thane being mistreated in ME3 and the crappy endings were equal as to the reason I'm discontent with ME3.
And that's my opinion. As for me supporting this petition would make those supporting a different ending "look bad" is downright silly.

We're individuals with different opinions. 
Do you honestly think Bioware will see you in a bad light because we have a different opinion than yours?
Those of us who support the petition do so because it's our opinion. Ours, As in not yours.

And if it sounds like I'm invalidating your opinion I am for the record not. You are entitled to have your opinion as am I.

@Visii What the.. You could always answer them by saying: "[insert platform of choice here]. It should be fixed, my poor Shepards playthrough is crushed"

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 25 mars 2012 - 04:51 .

[mnomaha]

...I support both, but to be honest, after Thane died the game was pretty much ruined for me. The craptactular ending was just icing on the cake.

[sunnie7699]

Bloodhound66 wrote...

The reason the ending has so much more interest in it than the LI's is because the LI's are minor, sub-plot romances, which are different for everybody. the ending was supposed to be the climax of the series and we got... Well we all know what we got.

Sorry if i sound like a troll, i dont want to invalidate anyones opinion. I just think if we're going to ACTUALLY make MULTIPLE protests about the game to get everything just perfect than we are selfish and greedy and are simply demanding too much out of a game company.

My opinion anyways.

I support the Indoctrination Theory and the Mistreatment of Thane 's romance in ME3. That is all, I don't want blue babies, I don't want more of Miranda's ass, I don't want ANYTHING ELSE from the game but closure to the ending and a Thane fix. My reasons are perfectly justified, because Bioware promised us closure for the ending and for the ME2 romances, neither of which we got.

I loved ME1 and 2 because we had great character development/romances and the endings made sense, amongst other great things. I didn't protest a damn thing about either of them, because I was satisfied with what I got.

[Visii]

Vi ‏ @Asenza

@masseffect So you're seriously saying that it's a glitch that there was no cure for Thane and the way no one spoke his name after he died? Oh, the platform this bug/glitch occurs on is all of them.

____

Hey, they wasted my time with Thane in ME3, might as well waste some of theirs...

[Taavo]

Ha! I wonder if they'll even respond.

[Nube9]

Bloodhound66 wrote...

The reason the ending has so much more interest in it than the LI's is because the LI's are minor, sub-plot romances, which are different for everybody. the ending was supposed to be the climax of the series and we got... Well we all know what we got.

Sorry if i sound like a troll, i dont want to invalidate anyones opinion. I just think if we're going to ACTUALLY make MULTIPLE protests about the game to get everything just perfect than we are selfish and greedy and are simply demanding too much out of a game company.

My opinion anyways.

Bloodhound
Were NOT protesting the ending here. i understand you're not trying to be a troll, but please listen to yourself. Just because the mayority cares more about the ending than "a little subplot" does not make our petition less valid. This is an aspect of the game that greatly affected our own experience with it, just as the ending may or may not have affected you. 
Also what I worked hard on the petition was for it not to be demanding, we just want a shot at Bioware paying attention to its female fanbase who largely wants this resolved. 
Please read the petition at least.

[Xeyska]

Bloodhound66 wrote...

The reason the ending has so much more interest in it than the LI's is because the LI's are minor, sub-plot romances, which are different for everybody. the ending was supposed to be the climax of the series and we got... Well we all know what we got.

Sorry if i sound like a troll, i dont want to invalidate anyones opinion. I just think if we're going to ACTUALLY make MULTIPLE protests about the game to get everything just perfect than we are selfish and greedy and are simply demanding too much out of a game company.

My opinion anyways.

I wouldn't call Liara's or Garrus' romance "minor" sub-plots, it's quite a decent chunk of the game related to the character. More dialogue, extra cutscenes.

I don't think protesting would say that we're greedy, it's only when people demand that they fix it. We just want our opinion heard.

There was a reason why Garrus and Tali were made to be love interests in ME2, because people like the characters and voiced their opinion on it.

We thought Bioware would treat Thane's character decently in ME3, but it didn't happened. So that's why we have threads on this issue, we want our opinion to be heard.

Modifié par Xeyska, 25 mars 2012 - 05:05 .

[sunnie7699]

Taavo wrote...

Ha! I wonder if they'll even respond.

Probs not. <_<