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[Julia_xo]

Bloodhound66 wrote...

@visii

I didnt tell anyone what to feel. I said starting a second petition over the lack of the words "i love you" when a scene was already ripe with emotion is petty and discrediting to an already amazing scene REGARDLESS OF IF YOU TAPPED HIM. That is also not me defending BW, thats me defending a satisfactory closure with a character i cared about (as a bro)

Ripe with emotion? Where?!

I saw my Shepard stand there like an emotional cripple while the man she loves died. My Shepard showed more emotion over the VS getting injured on Mars. The death of her LOVER hardly fazes her, however! She can't even be bothered to tell him she loves him. But it's okay cause she'll read a prayer everyone reads, whether they romanced him or not.

Who needs unique dialouge!? Let's just make the scene as generic as possible for everyone! How heartwarming.

When Shepard gets back to the ship she promptly forgets about Thane along with everyone else. It's truly a love for the ages, amirite?

How can we not be happy with this perfection!?!? The closure is overwhelming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

/sarcasm

[OhManTFE]

Thane's days were numbered anyway. Just like Dumbledore, Thane decided to die fighting for a cause he believed in, rather than just passively rotting away in the Hospital.

The romance plot was definitely not up to par though, and the same can be said for Jack + Miranda as well. Sure, add in some additional scenes for the romance, but his sacrifice was perfect, as was the prayer sequence (though romance Shep should have additional dialogue for prayer sequence).
Also: there is a glitch with the prayer sequence where one of the lines of dialogue is 'him' instead of 'her'.

My two cents.



Though I think issues like these should be put on the backburner until we get the terrible ending sorted out.

Modifié par OhManTFE, 25 mars 2012 - 06:48 .

[Emeraldfern]

@Bloodhound66,

I may be nitpicking what you said earlier but:

"Threads like this will continue to spark animosity towards our plight for a different ending. Lock up this thread and STFU. You are, in fact, being a whiny **** who wants his way. And your making the rest if us look bad. "

That is not respecting someones opinion. In fact, you actually said we shouldn't even have an opinion in the first place because we defame the petition for the ending. To me that's a message of:

"Be quiet in favor of my opinion."

And if that isn't telling someone what to feel then I don't know what it is...

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 25 mars 2012 - 06:48 .

[Taavo]

sunnie7699 wrote...

I know, I was hurt that it felt like neither of them cared about eachother that much anymore, that it was extremely superficial and that bioware thought we would be satisfied with dry humping in public area full of sick people and their worried families. It made me uncomfortable watching the way Shep manhandled him.

Yeah, it seemed like they were both like "Well, I guess I'll be seein' ya maybe. Have a nice life!" Then when Shep jumped him I was just kind of like "Woah, what the... "

[Visii]

OhManTFE wrote...

Thane's days were numbered anyway. Just like Dumbledore, Thane decided to die fighting for a cause he believed in, rather than just passively rotting away in the Hospital.

The romance plot was definitely not up to par though, and the same can be said for Jack + Miranda as well. Sure, add in some additional scenes for the romance, but his sacrifice was perfect, as was the prayer sequence (though romance Shep should have additional dialogue for prayer sequence).

My two cents.



Though I think issues like these should be put on the backburner until we get the terrible ending sorted out.

What cause did he believe in, pray tell?

What connection did Thane have with the Salarian councilor? If Thane's role could be so easily replaced by Kirahee or some other random STG member, then Thane was clearly not instrumental to the scene.

Modifié par Visii, 25 mars 2012 - 07:00 .

[Bloodhound66]

@visii

Wow, everything im trying to say is just going right over your head. And now your just putting different tones on the way I wrote my objection to make me look like I'm just an arrogant ass.

Your petitioning to change the entire scene. That's unnecessary. If it was just "we'd like some more LI dialogue with thane." i wouldnt have said a thing.

Please stop, to say figuratively, "putting words in my mouth" and please see that i just think to take an amazing scene out for more LI closure is entirely unnecassary and is a very one sided argument to those of us who dont have thane as a LI and are "happy with how it was handled."

[LucyMaire]

Please vote on this poll guys http://social.biowar.../index/10592013
I want our voices to be heard.

[sunnie7699]

Julia_xo wrote...

Bloodhound66 wrote...

@visii

I didnt tell anyone what to feel. I said starting a second petition over the lack of the words "i love you" when a scene was already ripe with emotion is petty and discrediting to an already amazing scene REGARDLESS OF IF YOU TAPPED HIM. That is also not me defending BW, thats me defending a satisfactory closure with a character i cared about (as a bro)

Ripe with emotion? Where?!

I saw my Shepard stand there like an emotional cripple while the man she loves died. My Shepard showed more emotion over the VS getting injured on Mars. The death of her LOVER hardly fazes her, however! She can't even be bothered to tell him she loves him. But it's okay cause she'll read a prayer everyone reads, whether they romanced him or not.

Who needs unique dialouge!? Let's just make the scene as generic as possible for everyone! How heartwarming.

When Shepard gets back to the ship she promptly forgets about Thane along with everyone else. It's truly a love for the ages, amirite?

How can we not be happy with this perfection!?!? The closure is overwhelming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

/sarcasm

*Told Kaidan it was over on Mars*

*after Kaiden get's injured and is in the hospital*

Doctor: He's going to be fine, he just needs some time to recover.
*shep goes into his room*
Shep: Kaiden, please don't die on me, I need you (Me: uhh.. he's not going to die.. the doc just said so.. also, no, i don't need him...)

Doctor: Thane is going to die
*shep goes into his room*
Thane: Siha, I picked a bad time to leave
Shep: you could never disappoint me thane (Me: oh thane)
Thane: I'm going to say a prayer now
Shep: k (Me:.... TELL HIM YOU LOVE HIM and that you need him! at least tell him you're going to miss him!! ANYTHINGGGGGGGGGGGGGG)

[coldwetn0se]

It's funny, if the game had come out with the choice variables I laid out over a week ago in one of these Thane threads, I believe, confidently, that these people who keep popping in to say how great the death scene was, would have been more than fine with a romanced Thane having a (possible) different fate. Why you may ask? Because either a) they would have just got the same scene as they already had in this game and they wouldn't know any better. They would only have gotten the option to extend his life if they had followed certain paths and put in the work. This is how it should have been, but alas it is not what we got.

[Bloodhound66]

For the record, i will admit my first post was written very rudely and without any respect.

However i still feel i raise some valid arguments as to why the scene should remain.

[Emeraldfern]

@Bloodhound66

I think that your post was directed at me, not Visii.

As I said " I may be nitpicking". It's just how I interpreted it.
If I interpreted it wrong then I aplogize, it was not my intent to be offensive.
And yes, I understand that your opinion is that Thane should not be saved. That's your opinion.
And that is ok with me, we're all entitled to have opinions.

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 25 mars 2012 - 06:59 .

[Visii]

Bloodhound66 wrote...

@visii

Wow, everything im trying to say is just going right over your head. And now your just putting different tones on the way I wrote my objection to make me look like I'm just an arrogant ass.

Your petitioning to change the entire scene. That's unnecessary. If it was just "we'd like some more LI dialogue with thane." i wouldnt have said a thing.

Please stop, to say figuratively, "putting words in my mouth" and please see that i just think to take an amazing scene out for more LI closure is entirely unnecassary and is a very one sided argument to those of us who dont have thane as a LI and are "happy with how it was handled."

Quoting you verbatim is not, putting words in your mouth. You're making yourself look like an arrogant ass.

Your post is unnecessary. I question your reading comprehension skills. No one here has demanded a cure for Thane to be forced on everyone, like Shepard forcing a merge between organic dna and synthetic (HA!) dna.

All most of us wanted was an option to save him, because every other ME2 LI got that.

And regardless of whether we got that or not, we wanted a good romance.

We got neither.

Good night.

Modifié par Visii, 25 mars 2012 - 07:03 .

[coldwetn0se]

ok, done feeding the trollz. No use trying to reason. Waste of breath....errr typing. Going to continue to voice my opinions, and when I can get out of this migraine induced mood I'm in, hoping to make us laugh.

[Taavo]

Bloodhound66 wrote...

For the record, i will admit my first post was written very rudely and without any respect.

However i still feel i raise some valid arguments as to why the scene should remain.

We don't want to take out the scene. We only want an extra option to save him and better dialog between shepard and Thane IF you romanced him. Any changes would have completely no impact on your unromanced character. I don't see why that's unfair.

[Xeyska]

Bloodhound66 wrote...

For the record, i will admit my first post was written very rudely and without any respect.

However i still feel i raise some valid arguments as to why the scene should remain.

Yes, your post is a valid opinion. Just as ours is a valid one too.

This entire thread is simply to make our voices heard on what we don't like about the romance and Thane in general in Mass Effect 3. We want choices. That's it.

Modifié par Xeyska, 25 mars 2012 - 07:04 .

[sunnie7699]

Visii wrote...

OhManTFE wrote...

Thane's days were numbered anyway. Just like Dumbledore, Thane decided to die fighting for a cause he believed in, rather than just passively rotting away in the Hospital.

The romance plot was definitely not up to par though, and the same can be said for Jack + Miranda as well. Sure, add in some additional scenes for the romance, but his sacrifice was perfect, as was the prayer sequence (though romance Shep should have additional dialogue for prayer sequence).

My two cents.



Though I think issues like these should be put on the backburner until we get the terrible ending sorted out.

What cause he believed in, pray tell?

What connection did Thane have with the Salarian councilor? If Thane's role could be so easily replaced by Kirahee or some other random STG member, then Thane was clearly not instrumental to the scene.

Thane should have been spending time with his son at the same time as spending time with Shepard (seeing as he did say in ME2 that any time he had left was for Shepard). Sure, he did a great thing by saving the Salarian councilor, but it definitely wasn't led on to be a cause he believed in. If anything, the lung medigel should have been a cause he believed in, if not for himself but for others with his condition that he might have been able to help with the time he had left.

[Bloodhound66]

@emeraldfern

No, your post was written in a polite way that prompted me to apologise. Visii was misinterpreting my words and making me out to be a troll.

[OhManTFE]

Visii wrote...

OhManTFE wrote...

Thane's days were numbered anyway. Just like Dumbledore, Thane decided to die fighting for a cause he believed in, rather than just passively rotting away in the Hospital.

The romance plot was definitely not up to par though, and the same can be said for Jack + Miranda as well. Sure, add in some additional scenes for the romance, but his sacrifice was perfect, as was the prayer sequence (though romance Shep should have additional dialogue for prayer sequence).

My two cents.



Though I think issues like these should be put on the backburner until we get the terrible ending sorted out.

What cause did he believe in, pray tell?

What connection did Thane have with the Salarian councilor? If Thane's role could be so easily replaced by Kirahee or some other random STG member, then Thane was clearly not instrumental to the scene.

Kirahee is the only replacement. If you don't have Kirahee, then Valern/Esheel is assassinated.

Thane didn't have to have a connection to the councilor specifically, the cause was fighting against Cereberus, fighting against the Reapers, saving lines to atone for those he has taken, and fighting for Shepard.

[Visii]

OhManTFE wrote...

Visii wrote...

OhManTFE wrote...

Thane's days were numbered anyway. Just like Dumbledore, Thane decided to die fighting for a cause he believed in, rather than just passively rotting away in the Hospital.

The romance plot was definitely not up to par though, and the same can be said for Jack + Miranda as well. Sure, add in some additional scenes for the romance, but his sacrifice was perfect, as was the prayer sequence (though romance Shep should have additional dialogue for prayer sequence).

My two cents.

Though I think issues like these should be put on the backburner until we get the terrible ending sorted out.

What cause did he believe in, pray tell?

What connection did Thane have with the Salarian councilor? If Thane's role could be so easily replaced by Kirahee or some other random STG member, then Thane was clearly not instrumental to the scene.

Kirahee is the only replacement. If you don't have Kirahee, then Valern/Esheel is assassinated.

Thane didn't have to have a connection to the councilor specifically, the cause was fighting against Cereberus, fighting against the Reapers, saving lines to atone for those he has taken, and fighting for Shepard.

Thane did all the atonement he needed in ME2, for the lives he had taken: he also saved a good number of lives against the Collectors.

Last I checked, Shepard should be able to fight their own battles. But that's besides the point. The point is that Thane did not die of his Kai-Leng injuries, he died, passively in a hospital bed, of Keprals. Not fighting Cerberus, not fighting Reapers.


If he was going to die for something he believed it, he SHOULD have had a connection to the councilor specifically. Maybe the councilor could have been considering letting Kahje burn to take the heat off his homeworld: in ME2 it was clear Thane has an affinity for the Hanar.

[Bloodhound66]

@visii

Your putting a different spin on the what i'm trying to say. But regardless, im done arguing over this thread, and with you. If you thought thanes death was meaningless, i'm pretty sure your lacking a heart or any form of emotion.

Peace!

[JECW]

Bloodhound66 wrote...

@visii

Your putting a different spin on the what i'm trying to say. But regardless, im done arguing over this thread, and with you. If you thought thanes death was meaningless, i'm pretty sure your lacking a heart or any form of emotion.

Peace!

Why would you say that to someone.

Honestly I have to wonder why you care. We are not bothering anyone.
We stated an opinion, and you don't agree. We won't change your mind, and you will not change ours.
All you have been doing is just going around in circles with this argument.

Modifié par JECW, 25 mars 2012 - 07:17 .

[Visii]

Bloodhound66 wrote...

@visii

Your putting a different spin on the what i'm trying to say. But regardless, im done arguing over this thread, and with you. If you thought thanes death was meaningless, i'm pretty sure your lacking a heart or any form of emotion.

Peace!

[LucyMaire]

@Bloodhound66 Don't deny your troll-ness. Otherwise you wouldn't say ridiculous and offensive things like "I'm pretty sure you're lacking a heart or any form of emotion." (I corrected your grammar for you, by the way. You're welcome.)
If you disagree with us, that's wonderful. Go talk to someone who cares about it. Nothing you say is going to have any impact on us.
And please, for future reference, pay attention to what we're saying before you automatically assume we're wrong and call us heartless.
Honestly.

[disc0nnect7]

coldwetn0se wrote...

sunnie7699 wrote...

miniy2j wrote...

Look I'm Sorry, Thane was dying. He always said that he was going to d--

*falcon punch*

I'm tired of all these disingenuous assertions! Seriously people.

Read. The Goddamn. Fraking. Thread.

Copying and pasting Visii:


There was no cure, despite CDN mention of Medigel for the lungs, the hanar
cure, and Thane's transplant candidacy, mentioned in ME2 and Lair of the Shadow
Broker.

Bolded for truth!  Damnit, I'm getting pissed now......and I hate getting this way!  What was bw thinking when they give us such a well developed, and SPECIFICALLY designed for WOMAN, character, then give him servitude as assassin since 6yrs of age, dead wife, estranged son AND space cancer.  Feed us false hopes about life extention/cure which DOES fit with his romance arc, then kill him and drop the ball on his romance in ME3!  They do all of this and send a message to some seriously unempathetic mouth breathers that:
1) you should NEVER love/romance a sick/dying person
2) that all those with a disease are DEFINED by it
3) that anyone who did think/feel differently about #1and #2, are apparently idiots
4) and finally..... breaking suspension of disbelief is fine if you make it LOOK cool (i.e. the ridiculous fight with Kai Leng)

Halleluha....holy ***t!...........Where's the Tylanol.

Okay I just had to quote this, coldwetn0se-did you just quote Chevy Chase?! Omg you are forever awesome...I am dying over the hilartity of this!! Ah, Thane fans are great. How come everyone doesn't love us?! Mystery to me...:innocent:

Getting back on topic, I agree with everything you guys have said. Anyone coming into this thread to post that they don't understand why we're upset or our reasoning behind our opinion just needs to read the OP or various other posts. We've explained ourselves multiple times to people coming here and posting their distaste.

To those who truly believe Thane is defined by his illness-obviously this thread is not for you. Hell, Shepard died and was brought back, if bw really cared enough we'd have our awesome Thane romance. It's a video game-the writers can do whatever they want with it. We know he's sick, but with all the hints bw was dropping we thought maybe they cared about us, maybe they had a plan for Thane from the beginning. Maybe his illness was just to open his eyes about all the wonders life can have in store for a hopeless or lost person? About finding that light, that saving grace, and truly getting a second chance at life and at love. It would have been a beautiful, hopeful message. I think that would be have been much better than his unavoidable death.

[mnomaha]

....Mystery to me... I see what you did there.

The things you guys get up to when I'm not around.