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#451
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mnomaha wrote...

@Redrose...I'm with ya, especially the at work part.

Yeah, choices. Acknowledgement that yes, we did love Thane and he mattered, if to no one else, than to us. I don't care that the VS died (scene at the memorial wall) I want to talk about Thane. I want someone besides me to remember him. If he has to die, I want his face to be the last thing I see before *I* die.

At the end of the day, I want to option to not have him die at all. Nothing mandatory for all those that don't, but an option.



I would rather there be a way to cure him but I just have this pessimistic feeling that there won't be. There should definitely be some type of DLC content made for him and all the ME2 LI's, so I guess I could be content with that.

Maybe I'll make some Thane art to cheer me and link the petition to my DA. I'll try to join your facebook page but the thing is I would have to sign up and I'm a bit of a dunce so I probably wouldn't know how to use it haha 
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Dear Bioware,

My FemShep is straight. She Virmire'd Kaidan (don't have anything against him, my Shep was just thinking of William's sisters). She didn't romance Garrus in ME2 and therefore locked herself out of ever having a romance with him in ME3. She romanced Thane instead, and then he died. She decided to go Forever Alone for the rest of the game after that, but if she hadn't? There was exactly nobody she could have chosen to romance if she had decided to move on.

Come on. Straight FemSheps have basically no choice in ME3, and with Thane you culled another (after pushing his romanced characterisation back to square one, at that). Give him back, please. He'd gained a will to live and fight, and then that just disappeared. There's no reason for us not to have this choice. It's not like FemShep is already flooded with a wealth of available straight romances, or that we're overwhelmed with other compelling drell characters. It's not like chances for the cure haven't been amply foreshadowed. He was valuable, and he was interesting. He's a character worth keeping.

Life Support is empty, depressing and completely purposeless without him.

#453
mnomaha

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*claps* Well said Cogs. Maybe you should post that to them. They're ignoring everything else.

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I feel like they abandoned Thane in the development process, with all of us who romanced him along in the way. There were so many aspects that said Thane is curable and he wishes to live, and all of those were just ignored. I highly doubt that's what 'art' means.

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Ivanssaran wrote...

I feel like they abandoned Thane in the development process, with all of us who romanced him along in the way. There were so many aspects that said Thane is curable and he wishes to live, and all of those were just ignored. I highly doubt that's what 'art' means.


Beautifully put!
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Ivanssaran wrote...

I feel like they abandoned Thane in the development process, with all of us who romanced him along in the way. There were so many aspects that said Thane is curable and he wishes to live, and all of those were just ignored. I highly doubt that's what 'art' means.


I agree completely!

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mnomaha

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I'm going to post this in all our threads.

I found this on facebook:

For you my sihas, from me:

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mnomaha wrote...

*claps* Well said Cogs. Maybe you should post that to them. They're ignoring everything else.


Thanks :) Would gladly send these sentiments further afield if I knew it'd actually get read, but is there actually a reliable way of contacting the Bioware crew? Posting on here feels like largely shouting into the void, and the twitter seems to be largely a PR thing rather than something that reguarly passes messages along (plus, limited characters).

Anyway, petition signed!

#459
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Yeah, it's going here too. Nope, not Keythe Farley but still damn good.

http://justabenedict...of-old-seas-ebb

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Signed. Quoted Below. I want to thank the OP and all of the Thanemancers for your perseverance and eloquent defenses of this petition.

"Thane's (non-existent) romance in ME3 is a joke. As a female player (and very loyal Bioware Female Gamer) I felt further discouraged by the fact that Jacob is also so poorly handled. Why are the plugs pulled on the two straight female options from ME2? If I Virmired Kaiden and didn't romance Garrus I'd be one very lonely FemShep :(

Perhaps I should just throw on my role-playing hat, roll my Bro-Shep, who has his pick from 6-7 different options, ALL OF WHICH have the option to live.

Even if I wasn't a broken-hearted Siha moodily drinking herself into a stupor in Life Support, I would support this thread as a Female Gamer to shed light on this obvious favoritism."

Modifié par Luminova, 29 mars 2012 - 04:52 .


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Thank you for your support Luminova! Feel free to join our facebook (link in my sig), our fanbook project http://social.bioware.com/group/7093/ and also our dA page...http://thane-fanbook.deviantart.com/

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I did a playthrough where I didn't do Thane's loyalty mission. Only one bit of dialogue changes, in the hospital he says "he has been negligent with his son."

The prayer sequence remains unchanged... Kolyat is still there and says the exact same things.

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OhManTFE wrote...

I did a playthrough where I didn't do Thane's loyalty mission. Only one bit of dialogue changes, in the hospital he says "he has been negligent with his son."

The prayer sequence remains unchanged... Kolyat is still there and says the exact same things.


Thanks! Don't know if you were answering me, but I asked this very question in the main Thane thread.

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OhManTFE wrote...

I did a playthrough where I didn't do Thane's loyalty mission. Only one bit of dialogue changes, in the hospital he says "he has been negligent with his son."

The prayer sequence remains unchanged... Kolyat is still there and says the exact same things.


Ugh, further proof that they did not even think out Thane's character in this game.  Now brings the question, why would Kolyat even be at his father's side at that point?  He's been negligent.  Am I to expect that Thane would say, "oh yeah you need blood try tracking down my son Kolyat.  He hasn't seen me in years, I abandoned him and his mother.  I'm pretty damn sure he hates me BUT he may be willing to try and save me."  Right.  Doubt it.  So, let's say that Kolyat decides to do it, he sticks around to give a final prayer to a father he probably hates or at least dislikes strongly.  I'm going to assume at this point, he only sticks around because his mother was that great of person that she wouldn't want him being a complete tool to his father as he lay dying.  Does Kolyat even say, "Hey Commander do you remember me?"  I hope not because that would be further proof of their incompetence, as they never met if the LM was failed.

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And I'm sure he would love that prayer for Shepard, especially the part where she asks why does it say "she".

yeah, Angry Kolyat would have loved that.

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Kolyat still shows up even if you never did the loyalty mission or failed it?!?!? :blink:

But yeah, it would be very odd if Kolyat did ask Shepard if he remembered him. Or pray. He wouldn't pray with Thane since I would think he hates Thane.

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@mnomaha

That is beautiful! Thank you.
Forgive my ignorance, but may I ask who is Aarti Khurana?

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I'll leave my comment from another thread regarding my thoughts on Thane's death here.

...(Kai Leng) may be a main villian in books, but he wasn't in the games. His presence kills the integrity of the story. Perhaps he could have been if there were more about his character and intentions, but there weren't. And him killing Thane is a disgrace to themselves; Thane was such a well made character and they made an extra kill him and made such a fine work into a mockery. And seriously, it's really well past time to drop down those ninja fantasies! It's not worth damaging the whole universe! People are way more sophisticated and fashionable than to like anything just because it's 'ninja'. You'd think they'd know this by now.

Original thread is here(Does anyone else feel Kai Leng is the worst new addition to the series?)

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Hello guys I'm back. Okay my "thanemance" character just met up with him for the first time at the hospital. Wasn't much different than my other playthroughs other than the quick makeout session. So far it's fine, I have no problem with it. Question. Am I going to see no further acknowledgement of Sam's romance with Thane from this point forward? Is that first meeting all there is to it?

If so that IS a major fail.

Modifié par Demonhoopa, 29 mars 2012 - 08:27 .


#469
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Demonhoopa wrote...

Hello guys I'm back. Okay my "thanemance" character just met up with him for the first time at the hospital. Wasn't much different than my other playthroughs other than the quick makeout session. So far it's fine, I have no problem with it. Question. Am I going to see no further acknowledgement of Sam's romance with Thane from this point forward? Is that first meeting all there is to it?

If so that IS a major fail.


If you exhausted all the dialogue in the dialogue wheel....then yes.  That's it.  Only real difference in the death scene are a "Siha", or so.  No acknowledgement from other squaddies, no codex entry of Known Associates, no Paramour Achievement.  Of course, since you have done other play throughs you probably already have the achievement.

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Demonhoopa wrote...

Hello guys I'm back. Okay my "thanemance" character just met up with him for the first time at the hospital. Wasn't much different than my other playthroughs other than the quick makeout session. So far it's fine, I have no problem with it. Question. Am I going to see no further acknowledgement of Sam's romance with Thane from this point forward? Is that first meeting all there is to it?

If so that IS a major fail.


Yeah that's pretty much it from there. The praying scene with Kolyat and Thane will be the same as if you didn't romance him :mellow:

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Demonhoopa wrote...

Hello guys I'm back. Okay my "thanemance" character just met up with him for the first time at the hospital. Wasn't much different than my other playthroughs other than the quick makeout session. So far it's fine, I have no problem with it. Question. Am I going to see no further acknowledgement of Sam's romance with Thane from this point forward? Is that first meeting all there is to it?

If so that IS a major fail.


Yeah, you're done aside from a "Siha" or two. I think Shepard has a different final line when he dies, but it's not much different. And you'll get an email which you will have already seen if you've played Shadow Broker (that said, it is beautiful so if that's new to you, that'll be a plus).

As an aside, did anybody else end up feeling majorly awkward about Thane in every subsequent hospital visit after the first? The game kept sending me back there for various quests/checking up on Ashley, and since he never gets any more dialogue options I gave up initiating dialogue with him every time just so I could immediately say "Bye" and tell myself Shep hadn't ignored him. After a while I started actively running behind the reception desk instead of running straight past him because it made it less obvious Shep was blanking him. (I learnt A LOT about that Asari and the farm girl on those visits, believe me :/)

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cogsandcurls wrote...

Demonhoopa wrote...

Hello guys I'm back. Okay my "thanemance" character just met up with him for the first time at the hospital. Wasn't much different than my other playthroughs other than the quick makeout session. So far it's fine, I have no problem with it. Question. Am I going to see no further acknowledgement of Sam's romance with Thane from this point forward? Is that first meeting all there is to it?

If so that IS a major fail.


Yeah, you're done aside from a "Siha" or two. I think Shepard has a different final line when he dies, but it's not much different. And you'll get an email which you will have already seen if you've played Shadow Broker (that said, it is beautiful so if that's new to you, that'll be a plus).

As an aside, did anybody else end up feeling majorly awkward about Thane in every subsequent hospital visit after the first? The game kept sending me back there for various quests/checking up on Ashley, and since he never gets any more dialogue options I gave up initiating dialogue with him every time just so I could immediately say "Bye" and tell myself Shep hadn't ignored him. After a while I started actively running behind the reception desk instead of running straight past him because it made it less obvious Shep was blanking him. (I learnt A LOT about that Asari and the farm girl on those visits, believe me :/)


Oh dear lordy, I did that too!  Always ran  BEHIND the reception desk...."Can I have gun?"  Never been so pleased to see and hear an asari.

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 29 mars 2012 - 08:54 .


#473
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coldwetn0se wrote...

cogsandcurls wrote...

Demonhoopa wrote...

Hello guys I'm back. Okay my "thanemance" character just met up with him for the first time at the hospital. Wasn't much different than my other playthroughs other than the quick makeout session. So far it's fine, I have no problem with it. Question. Am I going to see no further acknowledgement of Sam's romance with Thane from this point forward? Is that first meeting all there is to it?

If so that IS a major fail.


Yeah, you're done aside from a "Siha" or two. I think Shepard has a different final line when he dies, but it's not much different. And you'll get an email which you will have already seen if you've played Shadow Broker (that said, it is beautiful so if that's new to you, that'll be a plus).

As an aside, did anybody else end up feeling majorly awkward about Thane in every subsequent hospital visit after the first? The game kept sending me back there for various quests/checking up on Ashley, and since he never gets any more dialogue options I gave up initiating dialogue with him every time just so I could immediately say "Bye" and tell myself Shep hadn't ignored him. After a while I started actively running behind the reception desk instead of running straight past him because it made it less obvious Shep was blanking him. (I learnt A LOT about that Asari and the farm girl on those visits, believe me :/)


Oh dear lordy, I did that too!  Always ran  BEHIND the reception desk...."Can I have gun?"  Never been so pleased to see and hear an asari.


Oh good, I'm glad I'm not the only one!

How sad is it that we're both actively avoiding our characters' Love Interest in order to try and minimise the awkwardness of there being no content for them, though :unsure:

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/signed

The more I really analyze ME3, the more I realize unless some very drastic things are done very soon, I'll sell it back, and never spend another penny on the ME Franchise.

BioWare, if you can't or won't fix the big things, please at least give us some of the little ones.

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Wow. I can see why people are so unsatisfied. I had a char that romanced Jacob and had no problem with it. She got dumped. That's life, it happens and it's totally EXPLAINABLE. But this.........is just weaksauce. Oh well, both of my "Thanemance" chars were with Liara in ME1. So they'll both probably have happily ever after with her after saying goodbye to Thane. Well.......I could see Sam the renegade ending up in the shower with Traynor. I'll play it by ear and let the character's personality decide it.

Modifié par Demonhoopa, 29 mars 2012 - 11:46 .