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To pour the blood? Or not?


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Yourtoast

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I am sure these threads already exit but I searched and didnt find one.

I am at the ashes of Andraste and I don't know wether or not I should pour the blood into the urn. What happens story wise? What occus with my party? How does it change the ending?

I would save then try both out through re-loading but I feel that some of the changes are going to occur at the end of the game.

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Yourtoast

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Also I just relized, I have Liliana in my party, will she flip out and give me like -25 favor?

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Forsakerr

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wynne is supposed to do the same since both of them are kind of the religious sort , i had read that they flip out and want to kill you but -25 is not that bad hehe

edit: you can reload to just before you poured the blood and still have the reaver unlocked and kill that fanatic dude afterward since he gets mad you did nt poured it

Modifié par Forsakerr, 29 novembre 2009 - 11:48 .


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Ulrik the Slayer

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Liliana and/or Wynne go batsh*t crazy on you and aids the Guardian as he attacks you for defiling the ashes.

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Yea I don't mind so much about the favor it's just that I don't want an undesired ending. I was hoping to fight the dragon outside also.

Modifié par Yourtoast, 29 novembre 2009 - 11:49 .


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Pour one out for your homies, bro.

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Yourtoast

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Well I'm not pouring it out because then Liliana is perma-dead and I can't have that.

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From what I've read Wynn will perma leave as well. If she is in the party when you do it she will fight you. I also heard that if Liliana isn't there when you do it you can lie to her about it and she will stick around, but I think you need to have some persuade to pull that off.

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Ya, if you have Leliana or Wynne in party, they will flip out and attack. If you leave them in camp, and you have a high persuade check, you can probably lie to them about it to keep them in your party. I know you can do this with Shale if you side with Branka. Keep him in camp, and lie that you didn't kill Caridin, even though you did! Evil bastard!

Modifié par Draetor, 30 novembre 2009 - 10:32 .


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Yeah, I know from experience that Wynne leaves no matter what, and I'm not sure about Leliana. However, my suggestion is to bring Sten, Shale and Morrigan there after already making it to the Ashes and pour it, get the specialization, then reload.

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hankmurphy

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wynne tried to kill me and then i learned reaver. thats it

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DragoonKain3

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What you do. Save game, pour blood, learn Reaver. Reload game, don't pour blood, keep Wynne/Leliana in high approval, tell the scholar you found the ashes and spread the word.

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you will either have to kill or they will both leave if you do this

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Jesus, is it me, or is that a tad bit extreme just to unlock Reaver? If someone does not know about the save reload thing, i mean you lose 2 party members, one of which is pretty important for healing.



Come on... put a book in there somewhere for Reaver and charge a fortune for it.

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Leiliana definetly goes if you have her with you. the codex says "leliana turned her sword on you, before dying". I don't remember killing her though, i think she went down quick. You have to fight the guardian with only 3 too.



I was so sad i restarted.

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JabberJaww wrote...

Jesus, is it me, or is that a tad bit extreme just to unlock Reaver? If someone does not know about the save reload thing, i mean you lose 2 party members, one of which is pretty important for healing.

Come on... put a book in there somewhere for Reaver and charge a fortune for it.


Quote: "Demons can teach more than just blood magic. Reavers terrorize their enemies, feast upon the souls of their slain opponents to heal their own flesh, and can unleash a blood frenzy that makes them more powerful as they come nearer to their own deaths."

I'm believe such decisions should come with consequences. Mages have to barter with a demon and screw the life of a boy to unlock Blood Mage. If you're not into the roleplay thing, and you're playing this like an action game, then just save and reload. I fail to see a problem, BioWare's done a pretty good job with the way specialisations are handled - it works for both power-gamers and roleplayers.

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Justin2k wrote...

Leiliana definetly goes if you have her with you. the codex says "leliana turned her sword on you, before dying". I don't remember killing her though, i think she went down quick. You have to fight the guardian with only 3 too.

I was so sad i restarted.

That's not accurate. Lelianna was sleeping with my evil dwarf at the time. The situation plays out something like this:
"Nooooo!"
[Intimidate] "Think long and hard before you do something stupid"
"You're someone who takes no prisoners and does what he pleases. I can't stand up to you but I'll never forgive you for this!"
[I kill the guardian]
Lelianna: "Aren't you sweet and attentive!?"
We head back to camp. My evil dwarf sleeps with her after going brokeback with Zevran 5 seconds earlier. Apparently she likes abuse.
:devil:

Modifié par GhostSeraph, 01 décembre 2009 - 03:12 .


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It's like peing on Jesus Ashes if you ever found it.I would never sacrilege those ashes  even with my Evil character.I see no purpose of doing it.I don,t beleive in god .. But i respect the faith of other.

I mean if you sacrilege those ashe just to ****** off the whole world .. THan you're not a human .. You're worst than poop with the brain power of a skunk.

Modifié par Suprez30, 01 décembre 2009 - 05:47 .


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Suprez30 wrote...

It's like peing on Jesus Ashes if you ever found it.I would never sacrilege those ashes  even with my Evil character.I see no purpose of doing it.I don,t beleive in god .. But i respect the faith of other.

I mean if you sacrilege those ashe just to ****** off the whole world .. THan you're not a human .. You're worst than poop with the brain power of a skunk.




But it unlocks reaver.

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DrekorSilverfang

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Suprez30 wrote...

It's like peing on Jesus Ashes if you ever found it.I would never sacrilege those ashes  even with my Evil character.I see no purpose of doing it.I don,t beleive in god .. But i respect the faith of other.

I mean if you sacrilege those ashe just to ****** off the whole world .. THan you're not a human .. You're worst than poop with the brain power of a skunk.



If urinating on jesus' ashes gave you additional powers and made you buddies with a high dragon; I wouldn't hesitate to do it. Of course if you gave me the opportunity I'd burn the entire chantry to the ground and ****** on it's ashes too.

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In Sten's words, "Congratulations, you've found a waste container!"
Besides, the Chantry's religion is essentially Deism.

Modifié par GhostSeraph, 01 décembre 2009 - 05:52 .


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Pour it, definitely.



Wynne will leave you if you do that (Leiliana can be saved)... But that old geezer's departure causes me no grief. I wish I could have killed her first to get back the nice gear I gave her though...





Look at the dragon cult, it's the religious fanaticism that starts it all. If you simply just leave the ash of Andraste to risk rediscovery by the Chantry, religious extremism would rise to a whole new level.

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JabberJaww wrote...

Jesus, is it me, or is that a tad bit extreme just to unlock Reaver? If someone does not know about the save reload thing, i mean you lose 2 party members, one of which is pretty important for healing.

Come on... put a book in there somewhere for Reaver and charge a fortune for it.

Imo, learning all the specializations should've been the same. I hate the books.

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Sereaph502

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Cheap way out:



Save before interacting with the ashes.



Pour blood in.



Kill followers/guardian



Talk to guy, unlock spec



Reload



Continue as normal

#25
Silensfurtim

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Pour it! Pour it! Pour it! lol