Is the line starting to weaken?
#201
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:30
#202
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:33
I cannot believe how far this has come, from forum to the charity to the developer's officially responding to major news to actually people getting refunds...wow....I guess that's the alternative for people who didn't like the ending, it's a lot simplier than making a new one...Ryoten wrote...
amazon is now offering full refunds to people who don't like he ending. IMO this **** just got real!
#203
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:34
#204
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:35
Haven't touched any ME game since I got to the end of 3. Been playing Skyrim like a boss instead. Guess Bethseda's the last good developer standing now..
#205
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:39
#206
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:40
#207
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:41
But while the desire to see changes made is still as strong as ever, it's difficult to made yourself heard constantly when there's little news coming in. All you wind up doing is posting the same thing over and over, and making empty threads with nothing really worth saying. The best thing you can do is remain vocal in the threads we have dedicated for discussion on the topic and be sure to post whenever you have something worth saying.
But demanding BioWare employees to get fired and making hollow threats on the boards is the last thing you want to do. It's just going to make us all look really petty and demanding, and any BioWare employee that has to put up with insults on their twitter and on these boards is just going to ignore you and dismiss any of your comments. This goes especially for community officials who have no direct ties to the game development side of things. It's their job to pass on our comments and deal with fall out, but making their lives difficult isn't going to help.
Be loud, be firm and stand by your convictions, but don't go hurling insults at people whose job it is to mediate things. I'm not saying to roll over and accept everything they say at face value, but doing the polar opposite and denying everything and insulting people is the wrong way to go about it.
I know it's harder to not do it when time passes and hope is a difficult thing to hold on to, but the moment you WEAKENING YOUR INTEGRITY, the weaker your grasp on the line becomes.
#208
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:42
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:42
#210
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:43
#211
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:43
#212
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:45
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#213
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:45
#214
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:46
#215
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:46
#216
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:48
The line has never been better manned, and reinforcements are arriving all the time.
#217
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:49
The Real Bowser wrote...
The line is not weakening. People aren't accepting the ending, there are simply more people giving up on Bioware, likely forever. Bioware is running out of time, every day they hesitate more people quit, many may never return to this company again.
Years of loyalty are being thrown away in mere moments. This isn't something you can buy. Most companies would kill for this kind of fanbase loyalty. Bioware is just throwing it away. It's tragic.
Yup. And I'm on the verge of being one of them. I'm just barely hanging on to caring about the ME verse at all, despite being a huge fan for years and investing dozens and dozens of hours into the games and DLC. Seriously, it's been less than two weeks since ME3 released. I never imagined something like this even could happen, let alone would.
If there isn't some kind of clear, sincere promise to release a full ending DLC in the very near future, my investment in the ME series might just be too far gone. And unless something really big happens, my trust in, admiration of, and appreciation of BioWare is already gone.
Yeah, it is tragic. It's even worse because I resist the few, weak urges to play the single player because I cannot and will not tolerate such betrayal and lies. I want to be the ME fan I've been for five years. I want this thing to be set right (or as right as it can be). But it's like your parent really hitting you in the face as a kid--that kind of shocking betrayal and violation of trust can only be fixed by something big, and something very sincere. I doubt we're going to see anything like that.
#218
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:51
"I didn't really like it either, but let me tell you why it was good..."
I sometimes wonder if their love of ME blinds them to the failure of the "endings".
#219
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:52
#220
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:57
SaltyWaffles-PD wrote...
The Real Bowser wrote...
The line is not weakening. People aren't accepting the ending, there are simply more people giving up on Bioware, likely forever. Bioware is running out of time, every day they hesitate more people quit, many may never return to this company again.
Years of loyalty are being thrown away in mere moments. This isn't something you can buy. Most companies would kill for this kind of fanbase loyalty. Bioware is just throwing it away. It's tragic.
Yup. And I'm on the verge of being one of them. I'm just barely hanging on to caring about the ME verse at all, despite being a huge fan for years and investing dozens and dozens of hours into the games and DLC. Seriously, it's been less than two weeks since ME3 released. I never imagined something like this even could happen, let alone would.
If there isn't some kind of clear, sincere promise to release a full ending DLC in the very near future, my investment in the ME series might just be too far gone. And unless something really big happens, my trust in, admiration of, and appreciation of BioWare is already gone.
Yeah, it is tragic. It's even worse because I resist the few, weak urges to play the single player because I cannot and will not tolerate such betrayal and lies. I want to be the ME fan I've been for five years. I want this thing to be set right (or as right as it can be). But it's like your parent really hitting you in the face as a kid--that kind of shocking betrayal and violation of trust can only be fixed by something big, and something very sincere. I doubt we're going to see anything like that.
Well said. I feel the same.
In addition, if the dlc isn't a free patch, to me, that would just add insult to injury and I won't buy it, I will not support paying a lot of money and then having to pay for a complete well written ending. If I do, that will tell companies that people are quite willing to pay for fixes to rushed/incomplete/wth/insert other reason game endings and content.
#221
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 04:01
But I agree the line might be thinning, I think alot of people left because of the horrible PR facebook message a few days ago. Alot of people are getting frustrated methinks..
As for the people defending the ending, well it is their right. I Defended the Day one DLC got a lot of trolling for it to lol
Bioware can by all means claim it was their creative vision, but obviously the people they made for don't agree, So by not doing anything they are hurting them selves, if they make a ending DLC (hopefully for free) the people who want it can get it the people who don't feel it is need don't need to get it..Simple.
#222
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 04:05
Though, Bioware knows the damage has been done. Even though we're "quieter" now, anything can spark these forums up, not to mention they know if they don't fix it, next time any of us hear "Bioware is coming out with a new game", we'll double guess our purchase.
If anything, our silence should be scaring them.
#223
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 04:06
So (yawn)… still holding the line
#224
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 04:07
Keep Calm and Hold The Line.
#225
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 04:09
Plus, we're moving off BSN to make our point, Facebook, Twitter, private forum accounts.





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